Southern European contributions to western civilization >Classical Art >Philosophy >Medicine >Law >Democracy >Republicanism >Theatre >the Latin Alphabet >Mathematics >Engineering >olive oil >Architecture & Aesthetics still emulated to this day >united the entire Mediterranean under one Banner >Defended Europe against muslim invaders (the Reconquista, the Sicilian Crusade, Byzantine resistance, etc...) >the Renaissance >conquered most of America(destroyed the powerful Aztec and Inca empires) >proved the World is round, first to Circumnavigate it >first Europeans to visit the whole world(explored and mapped everything from America to Japan)
G*rmanic """contributions""" to western civilization >Barbarian invasions >the Dark Ages >runes >raiding and killing innocent European coastal villagers >going to America once by longboat(got BTFO by tribal natives and didn't even map anything) >Protestantism >Communism >chemical weapons (mainly used against Anglos, French and other Europeans) >World War I (destroyed European world hegemony in the process) >World War II (destroyed Europe again and gave world hegemony to America) >importing millions of muslim refugees in yet another attempt at destroying Europe
Bomber Harris do it again but this time with nukes
Luke Baker
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Noah Powell
>Southern European contributions to western civilization You mean Nordic Indo-European contributions
Charles Gray
>MUH
Bentley Ortiz
Idiot. Greeks and Italians had influence from Fertile Crescent, that had nothing to do with your scandishit muttoids.
Jonathan Miller
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Carson Brown
>Blatant racism and trolling will not be tolerated, and a high level of discourse is expected. History can be examined from many different conflicting viewpoints; please treat other posters with respect and address the content of their post instead of attacking their character.
Camden Young
Where do the fine people of Great Britain rank? Surely above Nordics
Zachary Brown
>be great Nordid Indo-European Aryan race >invent a fucking cheese slicer T-thanks.
Elijah Wilson
Well Caesar thought while Celts could be assimilated into Med society (which they were, see Gaul and Galatia for example) the Germanic man was hopeless to forever stew in his barbarity. Since England and Wales was and is Celtic, along with being Romanized for a long time as Roman Briton, they rank higher than Nordics.
Adrian Myers
Those weren't Greeks but assimilated locals, explaining their lack of Indo-European blood. Greece and Rome were both Indo-European civilizations, and modern Northern Europeans have the most Indo-European blood. Nice strawmen, retard.
Ayden White
Well great briton is a mixture of >british celts >romans >anglos >saxons >frisians >norse >franks >normans >dutch
Proof that the mongrel race is in fact the master race
Aaron Morgan
Uneducated Nordicist trash. Minoans, Fertile Crescent, Etruscans were pre-IE. And they were foundation for such great cultures as Greek and Roman one. Scandinavians contributed to the world less than even slavshits.
Alexander Foster
I think Germans and Dutch get a lot of stick on here, mostly it's Scandinavians and Baltics who deserve to be mocked for their WUZ antics
Dominic Scott
>Minoans, Fertile Crescent, Etruscans were pre-IE. And they were foundation for such great cultures as Greek and Roman one. So you say, yet it was the Indo-Europeans who came up on top.
Easton Cruz
Germans and Anglos were the biggest wewuzzers.
Xavier Rodriguez
t.hans
Nathan Gomez
On top of what? You trying to tie Indo-Europeans with modern Scandinavians is pure retardation. Scandinavians didn't contribute to anything.
Parker Cox
Balts and Scandinavians have every right to be proud of their Indo-European heritage.
Elijah Watson
Indo-Europeans prevailed, all the others perished. >You trying to tie Indo-Europeans with modern Scandinavians is pure retardation Scandinavians and Northern Europeans in general have the most Indo-European blood, therefore they have the most claim to them.
Bentley Hughes
>Germans and Anglos were the biggest wewuzzers I wouldn't say either were, what I do know is that both (especially Britain) were hugely inspired in the creation of their empires - and the manner in which they amassed and then ruled them - by Rome I've never met a single German or Briton who tried to take credit for the Roman Empire (though it's worth remembering both Germany and Britain were Roman provinces, at least in large part)
It's mainly Nordics who WUZ because they've got fairly bland histories and haven't done much
Christian Lopez
>most claim What does that even mean?
Colton Martin
But it was Germans that were the most loud about their Nordic bullshit.
Joseph Carter
Yeah I've never understood that When you have a fascinating history, including actual ties to the Roman Empire, and an immeasurable canon of great art, literature and music, why would you go full-on Varg and LARP as some wood-dwelling Scandinavian faggot?
Adrian Harris
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Landon Jackson
Is that an Eurovision contest you dumb subhuman pile of shit? According to your logic, Finns are the most Indo-European people genetically, yet what is their contribution to the world besides being a fucktoy of Sweden and Russia, that in turn sold them on Crimean slave markets to be fucked by Turks and Arabs?
What did Scandinavians contribute to the world? Nothing, absolutely fucking nothing. What about Balts? Ruled by Germans and Slavs for majority of their patethic history. Who dominated European culture and non-European continents if not "dilluted" shitskins according to you? Protip: Portugese, Spaniards, Italians, Greeks, British, French and even fucking potatofaced Slavs contributed more to the world than some Scandinavian snownigger trash.
Scandinavians are fucking patethic, irrelevant and useless trash.
Henry Stewart
How the fuck are Anglos we wuzzers?
Asher Sanchez
He probably meant the Teutonic racial theory. Very popular during XIX-XX century. It was pushed mostly by Germans to remove Slavs from history and justify their genocidal ambitions, but it also found its supporters among Anglo elite that hated the Irish with passion.
Zachary James
kek'd heartly
Owen Williams
/int/ shitposters should be permabanned
Angel Young
lmaoing @ all these coping m*Doids literally every civilization was NORDIC
Jaxon Nelson
Scandinavian contribution to the world: 0
Ian Scott
the romans were NORDIC and so were the greeks
Alexander Lopez
There is no evidence for it. Meanwhile, see SUBHUMANS
Thomas Hughes
That wounldn´t make their contributions SCANDINAVIAN.
You suck at your own game.
Leo Turner
plenty of evidence, you just gotta look behind every civilization, there is a NORDIC man, like augustus or jesus
Anthony Flores
>Scandinavians contributed to the world less than even slavshits. I dislike this trend of "either-or". The fact is that, the scandinavian peoples have consistently punched above their weigth, considering they're low population countries with really shit climates and geography. Does this diminish the mediterranean or enable some nordicist narrative? No! Certainly not, especially as one would find it difficult in reality to argue that the classical nordic, long-skulled element is the truly exceptional one.
Austin Long
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Cooper Williams
im here for the menes
Luke Jackson
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Jayden King
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Ryder Adams
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Anthony Phillips
Jesus dude.. Hey I mean at least they're easy on the eyes..
Ayden Moore
but thats not a meme at all
Zachary Price
Finns and Balts were ruled by other predominantly Indo-European peoples. Also Scandinavians have accomplished more than any other people who dwell that far North. >Portugese, Spaniards, Italians, Greeks, British, French Rank those by how much Indo-European blood each has and you'll see a pattern.
Matthew Brown
I see a pattern of you being a retarded idiot.
Joseph James
Not an argument, of those empires the most incompetent ones were the most mongrelized.
Adrian Hernandez
You're a Polish retard shilling for pseudo-scientific pan-germanistic theories of XIX century.
You're the definitione of a subhuman.
Jacob Davis
t. butthurt m*Doid subhuman
Logan Johnson
t. słowiański robal szilujący dla swoich germańskich panów
Daniel Butler
Why do you hate your Indo-European brethren? Poles too are primarily of Indo-European extraction, stop shilling for m*Doid subhumans.
Gavin Jackson
Kys subhuman whiteoid, your disgraced race will be extinguished in a few short fecades
Daniel Perry
Seriously though, what have Scandinavians actually contributed to the world other than IKEA and LEGO? Why would anyone even think that they are superior to Mediterraneans - people who have literally laid the foundations of Western civilization and given us the Renaissance?
Jaxon Lee
t. wh*Teoid g*Rmanoid subhuman
we poLes are the true aRyans. scandinavians are subhuman trash that needs to be eradicated
Jayden Sanchez
subhuman m*Doids will pay for their appropriation of Indo-European civilizations Farmers didn't create Rome and Greece, Indo-Europeans did.
Kayden Murphy
Fuck off D&C m*Doid shill
James Jackson
neolithic manlets just jealous of the indo-european ARYAN
Blake Allen
I'm not a big fan of Germany, but you're selling them a bit short. Yeah, they've been a political and human rights disaster multiple times, but they've also contributed some of the world's finest mathematicians, scientists, and musicians. And, since WW2, they seem to have significantly improved in the political department.
Levi Roberts
>they seem to have significantly improved in the political department. No they haven't.
Nicholas Robinson
Are you seriously going to try to argue that modern Germany is not politically better than Imperial Germany and Nazi Germany?
Juan Russell
>Indo-Europeans invade South Europe >they soon assimilate and continue great traditions of Mediterranean pre-IE civilizations (Minoan, Etruscan, Hatti) >Indo-Europeans invade Western, North and Central Europe >they kill everyone and rape their women >produce literally nothing of value >even their settlements are shit
>The complex of Newgrange was originally built between c. 3200 and 3100 BC.[17] According to carbon-14 dates,[18] it is about five hundred years older than the current form of Stonehenge, and the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt, as well as predating the Mycenaean culture of ancient Greece.[19]
> In the Late Neolithic, it appears that Newgrange itself was no longer being used by the local population, who did not leave any artefacts in the passage tomb or bury their dead there. As the archaeologist Michael O'Kelly stated, "by 2000 [BC] Newgrange was in decay and squatters were living around its collapsing edge".[30] These people were adherents of the Beaker culture, which had been imported from mainland Europe, and made Beaker-style pottery locally. le master race face
Andrew Green
When you look at Germanic nations now, and how they’re imploding from within for no real reason. (le let all the brownskins for no reason XDD) are you really surprised? Clearly they lack enogu harmony to maintain civilization without shooting themselves in the foot.
Nathan Fisher
>>they soon assimilate The locals assimilated to Indo-European culture and not the other way around, explaining their Indo-European language and customs.
Nathaniel Richardson
No? They only thing the gave the Pre-Indo European groups was language? Otherwise you'd imagine the rest of Europe would have similar showings.
Hunter Peterson
>how they’re imploding from within for no real reason. (le let all the brownskins for no reason XDD) t. got all your knowledge of Europe from /pol/ memes
Liam Wilson
Nope. Mycenaeans clearly copied Minoans, same with Romans and Etruscans. Yes, some things changed, but they were heavily influenced by those cultures. It's also possible that the elites (or priests) used those older languages. You know, this is what happened with Roman Europe after the Germanic invasion.
Eli Reyes
I'm probably taller than you, stupid wewuzzing slav
Caleb Howard
What would be the point of just adopting their language, especially if the Indo-European conquerors weren't as populous? >You know, this is what happened with Roman Europe after the Germanic invasion Except that Romans didn't drop their language for them, the elite might've but the commoners didn't.
Lucas Thomas
Lol yeah sure
Problem is that the locals were the civilized ones and IE subhumans were semi nomadic savages with literally zero culture
Kayden Hernandez
Common Romans spoke Vulgar Latin, with naturally evolved into Romance dialects. Church Latin is different.
Matthew Martinez
Indo-Europeans had to have some culture if they possessed tech other societies didn't. You don't just stumble upon the chariot.
Lincoln Barnes
>Indo-Europeans had to have some culture if they possessed tech other societies didn't.
They didn't
>chariot
It's a savage "technology" that was dropped after horses became big enough
Matthew Baker
Yeah so do Negroes and Abos
Samuel Wood
Wrong, Indo-Europeans had a pretty complex and rich religion for instance. Not much else is known about them though because they were illiterate, apart from the fact that they were very militaristic and warlike.
Kevin Martin
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Parker Green
*early Indo-Europeans
Brayden Thomas
Illiterate, semi nomadics who loccasionally settled in small villages of a handful of huts each, left behind next to no works of art asides for a few trinkets, no monuments, no infrastructures. What an incredible culture, even the Zulu culture was more developed
Jayden Rogers
how come the locals came to speak an indo-european language, then raised a great point
Christian Hernandez
The Etruscans, Iberians, Sicani, Sardinians, Raeti and Turdetani all spoke non Indoeuropean language before Roman conquest, the Romans were not PIE but heavily mixed farmer/steppe mongrels
Zachary Powell
Same reason much of MENA came to speak Arabic?
Aiden Evans
>mongrels opinion trashed. Everyone is a "mongrel" at some point.
Chase Watson
>the scandinavian peoples have consistently punched above their weigth
The Nordic peoples have always been a race similar to the Slavs in warfare in that they aim to overwhelm with numbers. They are not renowned for their heroes, tactics, or martial prowess but by the number of warriors they can field at an instant.
William Harris
>The Nordic peoples have always been a race similar to the Slavs in warfare in that they aim to overwhelm with numbers. delet this
we poLish and czEch warriors often fought against greater numbers and won
Jeremiah Campbell
>Also Scandinavians have accomplished more than any other people who dwell that far North. Russians have done more. The majority of Scandis dwell along the Southern Coasts of Sweden and Norway, with a few sparse yet somewhat dense population centers in Western Norway. They are not actually that far north.
Grayson Evans
You ignored my inquiry. That's not comparable since Arabs were far greater in numbers than the peoples they invaded and for the most part displaced them (as proven by genetics), pre-IE Southern Europeans were obviously more populous than the invading Indo-Europeans.
Lucas Wood
>and for the most part displaced them (as proven by genetics)
Lol what?
That's completely false
>, pre-IE Southern Europeans were obviously more populous than the invading Indo-Europeans.
That's why they still spoke their languages well into the Roman age
Isaac Rivera
Russia was founded by Scandinavians, and they didn't do much in comparison to Scandinavians prior to Muscovy (which is far south from Novgorod).
Wyatt Jenkins
Do Scandinavians really do this? German and British we wuzzery caused genuine damage to academic thought, it was mostly them pushing the "Aryan ruling class everywhere" meme. It's how we get shit like British Israelism. I don't think Danes, Norwegians, Icelanders, or Swedes ever really bothered.
Nathaniel Ramirez
>That's completely false No, it isn't. >That's why they still spoke their languages well into the Roman age That doesn't matter, every single one of them ultimately adopted an Indo-European language.
Jason Morales
>That doesn't matter, every single one of them ultimately adopted an Indo-European language
They were conquered by the Romans who had adopted Etruscan culture sweetie ;)
>No, it isn't.
It is, retard, Tunisians and other NA cluster far away from proper Arabs, same for Syrians or Iraqis
Robert Morales
You do realize that 90% of these threads are the entire board yelling at the same two Polish guys.
Hudson Lopez
Sounds like sour grapes from Teutoberg Forest
Meds are just assblasted that Anglii and Saxones now run the planet
Mason Parker
>two Polish guys.
No, I'm against that nordicist monkey.
Eli Morales
>They were conquered by the Romans who had adopted Etruscan culture sweetie Why didn't Etruscans expand on their own, then? How did they end up speaking an Indo-European language if their culture was superior? >Tunisians and other NA cluster far away from proper Arabs, same for Syrians or Iraqis That's because they raped the locals and also due to genetic drift.
Cooper Reyes
FIRST >Greeks / 1% IE Created civilization
SECOND >Italians / 10% IE Created a rational legal system
THIRD >French / 15% IE Created Custom Law Created and spread Civil Law Created Modern Democracy Raped and civilized inferior English
FOURTH >Iberians / 20% IE Explored the know World
FIFTH >British / 30% IE Spread the Custom Law of their French masters Naval Superpower Created America I do see a pattern
Logan Wilson
Minoans 0% Created civilization
Daniel Watson
>>Greeks / 1% IE The original Greeks were fully Indo-European >>Italians / 10% IE Original Romans were fully Indo-European, they became more incompetent overtime due to miscegenation paving way for modern Italians and their failed Italian Empire. >>French / 15% IE Wrong, even South French are 28% Indo-European. >>Iberians / 20% IE They're even less Indo-European than either Italians and Greeks, explaining how they're more incompetent. >>British / 30% IE Wrong, 40% to 50%, and their empire was the most successful.
Blake Gray
>Polish fairytales
Samuel Barnes
He's not Polish. He's a fifth column monkey. Don't insult the Poles, no fucking Polack would shill for g*Rmanoid subhumans.