2016

>2016
>not just doing a shortcut to your natural maximum
>...and then not maintaining it naturally without juice

How fucking long are you going to spend there?

Doing it the hard way, aren't you? Lol

Does he do gay porn?

It doesn't work like that

Are you a newfag? Rethoric question.

And how is that?

Yeah I know I'm taking the bait

Uh no
You only get to maintain the muscle your natural testosterone can handle

If you had x amount of muscle while having 1000+ ng/dl and get off and back to 400/500 ng/dl you will get smaller

>wants to look like a circus sideshow freak
that's what happens when you roid, loser, and everyone will KNOW you used roids and they will not respect you for it. But go right ahead. Enjoy your ruined life.

But does he tho?

you'll lose what you get if you jump off

OP is an idiot.

Pumping your body full of hormones is going to fuck with it.

It's going to lower your natural testosterone production, so when you go off it, you'll become a cuck beta and lose musclemass fast as fuck. Why do you think roiders have small balls? It will also fuck with you emotionally.

Aditionally, a roided body is not as aesthetic as a natural one. Muscles look weird, skin gets fucked up, your hairline starts receeding.

Nah, fuck dem roids nigga.. Natty all the way.

Would technically work but problem with roids is that it completely destroys your natural test so as soon as you jump off say bb to your gains

I'm worried about stopping my development. If it wasn't for that I'd been on the cycle long ago.

I have no idea where people get the idea that you lose all the gains you make on gear when you jump off, in fact, assuming correct PCT, you keep most.

If your natty limit is say, a lean 200lb physique and you hop on cycle and bulk to a lean 230lb, when you come off you will shrink back to 200lb or so.

If you were 170lb and bulk to 200lb on cycle, you may lose 5 or 10lb of what you gained, but your body can hold this amount of muscle naturally, you just made that muscle quicker.

I want to, but the hair loss associated with roiding keeps me away, and I'm scared of getting gyno.

Plus the more research I do on steroids, the more inconvenient it seems. You have to do tren and test every week, but if you don't want your balls to shrivel up then you need hCG every other day, plus you need an AI and PCT, plus you need frequent blood tests to see if you're fucking up. And that's just the minimum for a low key cycle too. Plus you're gonna need to dedicate a ton more time to eating and lifting, buy a new wardrobe, buy a ton more food, and avoid shit like alcohol and too much heat. It sounds like a pain in the ass.

>say bee-bee to you gains

So I can roid and just choose to isolate a handful of muscles like thc ass forearms, abs, and back? They'll stay with me after juicing cause my body can handle that much?

>what is PCT
>what is bnc

Keep believing that m8

If you keep working out those muscles, yes.

You assume that your normal natural tesosterone level will remain the same and that the person has a normal testosterone level that's high enough to maintain that amount of muscle.

With proper cycling and hormones you will maintain a normal basal test level

Course that takes a lot of money, research, and poking yourself with needles

this is dumb

Youd be surprised how many people you know have juiced. Its not obvious unless its completely overdone.

PCT

>small balls
what is HCG

>fucks with you emotionally
only the harsher steroids (tren, deca etc) really change your emotional state, and even then the effect is extremely exaggerated

>Muscles look weird
? Steroids dont change your insertions. Unless you overdo it or use synthol youre fine

>skin gets fucked up
what is AI

>hairline starts receeding
only if you have a genetic predisposition, and even then its not very likely

this is correct

>scared of gyno
AI brah. You'll be fine.
Friends PLEASE educate yourself before expressing yourself

>AI brah. You'll be fine.
>Friends PLEASE educate yourself before expressing yourself

I know AI prevents gyno, but that doesn't mean I'm not paranoid after some of the horror stories I've read. My gf dumped me so I'm thinking of doing one cycle to reach my natty limit faster, but steroids still intimidate me.

Yeah thats fair enough, honestly it's good that youre cautious.
I'm jsut coming off of my first cycle now and have no regrets, it was great fun, sides were extremely managable, and I put on a decent amount of size.

Just do your research, plan everything out, triple check everything, and you'll be fine

Good luck in your journey man, whatever you choose to do

lol faggot

How do you feel now, same or different - worse or better?