Is this true?

You like traps don't you, user.

>Not liking girls who look like twinks

Wow, how does it feel to be wrong?

Only for girls aged 15-25 that have been blessed with good fat distribution. Otherwise they will look like utter crap.

The guy is too muscley though, I'd say 50% of that guy musculature would be enough to be considered a shredded chad for most women.

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but it's true, women store more fat than men

Yes, but it's fair because during the quest to attain guys shape, the guy acquired the discipline, determination, and patience to maintain his shape... whereas the girl is just going to lose her beauty the moment she hits 30 because she got hers through just finishing puberty. So as long as the guy doesn't shack up with the girl and then wind up having to dump all his gains into raising her kids, everything is fair.

Yes but complaining about it just means you're a fucking fag

And don't forget the T injections.

this.
life is unfair. deal with it.

Edgy kid.

Immature adult loaded with prejudices born out of insecurities.

Well girls also have to have help from genetics. Even skinny girls can have really shit body types. The classic hourglass shape just isn't in the cards for some.

Yep.
Men work longer hours at work.
Have to work harder for their bodies.
Will die an earlier than the human average age of death.
Your death will likely be caused by heart disease (1/4 of all male deaths) with no prior symptoms. Your heart will just give out.
This includes men who are "physically fit or healthy".

Welcome to the real world nigga.

u know whats even more unfair, urban asian girls with flat chest and flat ass and their photos still look good.

To an extent. Girls with truly hot bodies do work fairly hard for it though, lots of cardio, yoga, abs, dumb shit like that. I'd rather lift heavy than do cardio and yoga every day, even if it does take longer to see results

Pretty much, I know so many girls who go to the gym for 6 months, starve themselves enough to have female abs, and then suddenly their entire social media page is #FITFAM #GIRLSWHOLIFT and then a bunch of fucking Herbalife/detox tea bullshit. Like they're suddenly really special

>Not understanding that the law of thermodynamics has no exceptions known to man

>not understanding the differences in fat metabolism between man and woman

To an extent there still is genetics involved.

If they have genes for a pancake ass, apple figure and small tits, that's not gonna change when they lose weight

If they have good genetics than it often is just a case of getting rid of fat and building a small amount of muscle

Stop complaining, this is the natural way of things.

Nigger what? Fat metabolisms? Wtf is that shit? That's not a thing

If you want girls to start approaching you than yes it is true, but its not true when 95% of the time its going to have to be the male to start the conversation otherwise it doesnt matter what your BODY looks like aslong as you have social skills and a face

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Most girls are considered good looking even if they have pancake ass and small tits user

let them. normies will never make true gains with this fiction out in the world

Maybe to you

Maybe not to me, maybe to thirsty guys online
Maybe ive seen alot of small tittied girls with flat asses and fucked up faces change boyfriends five times over a two year period

Numbers are key and there are alot more thirsty guys looking to hook up with anything and anyone than youd think so most girls will get alot of attention simply for existing

The whole point I was trying to make is that most girls often do not end up looking like the girl on the left just by losing weight.

I dont know about that, where i live (Northern europe) its pretty common for girls to look like that
But sure, youre right that there are hopeless cases for chicks who cant be considered good looking no matter what they do but on average you need alot less effort to look good as a woman

Well, I disagree

yes

not quite, because women almost invariably have substantially lower BMRs than men so they often have to eat considerably less to lose the same amount of weight

similar holds for men too, genetics can be a cunt

for women, losing weight won't magically make you hot

for men, losing fat and gaining a bunch of muscle won't magically make you hot.

will still make you hottER in both cases tho

Both of you are autistic. Neither understands the other because you fail to sufficiently explain.

are you seriously denying that women need fewer calories than women? wtf are you on

No, that guy's in the top 1-5% of men whilst she's in the top 20-30% of women. Lmao at all the incels here who put pussy on a pedestal so much that they honestly think a 6/10 woman is on the same level as a 9/10 man.

Pussy is on a pedestal wether you like it or not, there are thousands of guys showering the most basic cunts with attention so its reasonable to think a girl who is a 6/10 can get a 9/10 because they do
Girls date up all the time simply because there are too many guys

Yes I'll admit that her sex life is probably the same as the guy's thanks to white knights worshipping her and attractive guys usually going for women who are a couple of points lower than them because it's easier but relative to women she's far lower down than he is relative to men.

I dont know if any of thats true
Most guys i know and relate to know that in order to get laid you need to be top of your game and even if you are you can fail
Recently found out girls at my work use to spend weekends together talking shit about guys who genuinly asked them out and laugh at them, these are some basic girls while the guys are good looking, smart guys who work part time alongside their studies

For most guys its selfimprovement or accept not getting laid/a gf ever and for girls its the opposite

yes, its very unfair that there is such a displacement in the dating market where girls hold all the power and guys have none unless you are top 5% in all categories (social status, looks, athleticism, success, mental capabilties etc) but what can you do?
Either drug all the female population to increase their sexdrive or exterminate around 75% of men, both seem equally autistic and impossible

The guy on the right mainlined steroids and some growth hormones and potent fat burners plus had a diet that helped him puff his muscles up.
That's not mentioning the make up and oil on his body and photoshop.
What it would take to get a body like that as a natural is WELL beyond that fuccbois level.
He'd have to start as 15 year old and have an active physically demanding and relatively life up till that point to get anywhere near that amount of mass as a natural man.

No, a natural guy would have been better.

If it takes that much to bang those basic bitches who'll inevitably talk shit then next their ass.

Plenty of club sluts and chicks who're looking to fuck at raves and orgies. Them ho's can have fun with their 50shades of grey and dildos.

Lol fucking 6/10 for her? What the fuck kind of Amazonian country do you fucking live in

It cant be done
Ive been looking to get laid for more than a year and its gone nowhere

There arent enough girls around, most of the ones with an interest are taken already

Example
This girl at work was flirting with me like crazy and not subtle stuff, like straight up suggesting we should do our own porn movie and rubbing her ass on me. Some guys at work tell me i should make a move since she looks at me alot and they notice
I make moves and she flakes every time so i decide she isnt worth the trouble
Turns out she has had a boyfriend all along and never told anybody
This is true in most cases, girls who are semi-decent all have boyfriends already

WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK ARE YOU EVEN COMPLAINING ABOUT SHUT UP SERIOUSLY LIFTING IS AWESOME I WILL THINK OF THIS THREAD WHEN IM 50 AND PROPABLY LAUGH SO HARD AT YOUR STUPIDITY THAT ITLL GIVE THE 20 YEAR OLD IM ASSFUCKING BODY DYSMORPHIA (SUPER TOTALLY UNCALLED FOR OFC)

Nigga, do you not understand.
If you want to fuck, go where women who want to fuck are.
Clubs, Bars, Concerts, Raves, Orgies, Twitter, Sex sites, random cute bitches on the street.

If you want to fuck, then go out and fuck.

Work bitches unless they are 100% DTF are there for relationship shit, even then, not many are worth it.

I dont mean to be negative but there arent enough girls around

Simply going out and getting a girl willing to fuck is extremly hard, most are taken already and those that arent are just not interested
Dont know where you live but where i live there is a serious lack of girls

lower metabolic rate comes with a lower appetite obviously and smaller body with a smaller stomach
>bohoo men can eat one more mcdouble than i can
kek fucking women even ranting about how men have unfair advantage even on staying normal weight, bitch just stop indulging yourself with shitty fastfood and snacks

Where do u live

Northern europe

And it will only get easier. Idk how all these people are depressed. If you're not a legit autist, ripped and slightly fit that puts you way way ahead of the pack.

What?
How will it get easier? explain please

Nigga, you aren't in China.
If you said China where the hot Chinese pussy is legit scarce are bumfuck nowhere Australia where the population is 20 and a behatted kangaroo that can talk I'd say "Oh shit sorry my nigga" but you're not.

You're in northern europe, a stones throw away from the porn whore capital of the planet.
PUSSY SHOULD BE ON EVERY STREET CORNER AND BEHIND EVERY BUSH!.

Lower BMR, lower appetite. Some exceptions apply.

In a non-pathological environment, most adults will eat at roughly maintenance and keep a steady weight.

Its a ratio thing, too many guys per girl so most girls are taken already
If a girl has an interest in guys she already has a bf by the time she is 15

Went to a FWB/casual hookup site
75 ads with girls looking for guys, within a day the most recent ad had over 10 000 views and over 100 replies. most dating sites are similar, even the fattest of chicks get tons of attention

>Be better than the competition
Its not about that, its about her ego being boosted through the roof since she knows if i get difficult she wont have to look far for a new guy whereas i prolly wont find another girl

Yeah, im whining because im not happy. I dont feel like im owed anything but it sure as fuck would be nice to actually get a reward for hard work sometime

Women really only have one injustice to overcome when achieving beauty (when discounting things both genders have such as being ugly):

Fat deposits and where they store, Also known as:
DOES SHE HAVE BIG FUCKING TITTIES OR NAH

This is almost as bad as Manletism in the dating world. I mean seriously, I would never date a girl who was flat or had those dog ear droopy african tittis, NEVER. Titlets BTFO!

Now the difference is that this can be changed! Women can get gorgeous fake tits now a days, they even feel real! It's expensive but at least they have a choice.

For men the great injustices are too many to count, but the three main ones I'd say are
Manletism
Frame
Male Pattern Baldness.

It sucks to not get any pussy no matter how hard you try. That being said, you can either give up and go full monk OR you can keep trying.

Since you're here bitching about not getting pussy instead of out there being the side dick of the wifed up women and girls on girlfriendlockdown then you're not REALLY trying.
Now are you.

Ironically enough, the african women's tits look better and stay perkier longer then women in the west.

All thanks to their bras and healthy active lifestyles. There's a reason the national geographic issues with topless native bitches always sold better then actual porn.

Also to add on, women with big tits will generally do undeservedly good in the dating scene. Someone like this who looks below average in her face would still land a pretty good guy.

Men don't have anything like that, closest might be height, but it's not like fit makes it out to be where all you need is to be 6'2 and you'll get any girl.

A big titted girl on the other hand will never have to go home alone.

I dont want to give up, im just taking a break and collecting myself and thinking up a strategy but yes, youre right
I need to improve and get laid, only thing i can do

>the african women's tits look better

they really don't, they look fucking gross.

>girls look like twinks
girls look like twinks

Friend of mine works as a stripper and she has plastic tits, she actually said that smaller boobs got her alot more attention than bigger boobs and she never had to go home alone before that either

Big tits are seriously overrated, only girls and a very select few guys care about breast size.

You're focusing on the grannies who've had 8 kids.
Not the vaguely legal in the western world up to 25 year old milfs who've only had two kids.

Awesome fucking tits every time.

I like girls with a little fat on 'em, and wide, child-bearing hips. Love handles and bouncy asses are high test. In that regard, women have a lot less effort to make.

>Here's some white knight anecdotal evidence that contradicts every sexual attraction standard.

"and she said that she never had to go home alone before that either"
Sounds legit. That's very probable that she discussed exactly what user talked about.

>12%
Keep dreaming titlet!

Im not a white knight, faggot. get your head out of your ass
Im saying big tits, while a factor, isnt as important as people think it is

You know what the main quality girls who dont go home alone is? Sluttiness and open sexual desire
Big tits are a turn on for some guys but the biggest turn off for all guys is a frigid chick, if she shows disinterest she will be going home alone unless she is super attractive and simply big tits wont make that happen

Yeah, big tits are overblown. No I'm not joking.
Breasts size is linked to certain...sexual identifiers for men, all sizes are loved for one reason or the other. All men have the size preference they are drawn too above all else but all men are drawn to all breasts depending on their mood.

Your friend was simply suffering from the same fear that men have when we think about our cocks.

In a purely practical sense when it comes to actual pnv/a/m/h/t cocksize and breast size do not correlate what so ever.

But when it comes to the sexual visual impact it's about the same.
I would like to go into how porn producers know instinctively that appearance of the penis and idea of it being large or being used in certain ways and wielded by certain men is far more important to women then the reality

Like how Ron Jeremy is played up as this big porn stud from back in the day who's fantasy cock size of 9 3/4(Im actually a half inch shorter in reality) rocked bitches world.
Truth is the guy is barely six inches long and was all hype.

Huge breasts are a bonus and will attract men who are into big breasts first off, guys who're horny will see them as a bonus but will next her in a second if a hotter chick with more modest tits comes along. And the reason why she gets less attention now is because another pair of big tits in a room full of women with big tits is boring. It's even worse if they're bad fake tits.

The one woman with a small sensitive handful of breasts that she's beyond humble about is cute and draws attention.

Will NEVER tell a woman this in earnest because the moment she realizes that she'll get a big head and just become another basic bitch to ignore.

>GENETICS
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If you lift and still don't fill out the L sized shirts then you're a low test beta and genetically inferior to other men.

You can either start injecting test into your ass for the rest of your life and lift twice as hard, or just become a sissy fucktoy that God intended you to be with your weak twink DNA.

>Pic Related

Big tits will put a woman at a +2 in terms of hotness. A 5 with great big tits is easily a 7 in terms of league.

Found the pseudo scientist.

>Will NEVER tell a woman this in earnest because the moment she realizes that she'll get a big head and just become another basic bitch to ignore.
Seems thats the case for most chicks anyway

I feel really bad senpai, there is this girl at work who is chatty and wants to talk every day. but she has huge tits and im not a fan
meanwhile all the girls ive met with smaller tits that i like are bitchy as fuck, and i mean they have a massive ego and dont put out
Makes me sad because i want to get my dick wet and they are acting all bitchy

>pseudo scientist

Just google "low testosterone symptoms" and read about yourself, faggot.

how do you know this? is it supported by evidence in the literature? because i am sceptical

>"low testosterone
Probably no one here has low testosterone bud.

No carbs high fat and protons

I'm from Australia and as a Masters student I still managed to fuck more than one new girl every month when I was single.

you sound like you keep making excuses rather than actually trying, did you know that there are more women than men in teh world? Scientifically you are wrong, there are not too many guys either you aren't trying or your standards are way to fucking high.

Secondary Sexual characteristics that are very pronounced always puts people on a higher tier.

Especially with those who are into larger more pronounced secondary sexual characteristics.

However, personal preference and NOVELTY plays a very big part as well.

The woman in your picture is amazingly hot, BUT, if a woman who has that thing that I find appealing or has a big set of tits and that other thing I find appealing comes along she's just ignored.
That's how it is.

Look, if you want to fuck and the chicks at work are bitches then fuck the nice big tittied girl.
The other chicks, the ones with the more modest bust size that you dig? Unless they have something about them that makes putting up with their shit long enough to cross their down their mile wide bitch moat to get to castle cunny are not worth it.

Fucks sake, there are chicks outside of work dude. Go for them too.

>did you know that there are more women than men in teh world?
Given that women tend to live alot longer thats true, but it doesnt really help now does it?
My standards are the following:
(i) Sex drive, she must have one
(ii) Semi cute face
(iii) Not obese
(iiii) decent personality, as in not overly pretentious, bitchy or stuck up
(iiiii) Single
Still, ive found one girl who fits this description in the past 18 months and she only fit because she was on a break from her relationship with her gf so when she wanted to go back she had to break things off with me
Still think my demands are too high?

To normies, yes.
To anyone even slightly involved in the fitness world, the girl isn't impressive.
Girls still have it easier, but in the fitness community we are relatively even, apart from there being more competition among men.

actually the guy in the pic is also taking several drugs

>Fucks sake, there are chicks outside of work dude. Go for them too.
I doubt it honestly, most girls i meet arent single and if they are there is always a reason for it
I just want to fuck and girls arent making it easy, i dont understand why its so impossible to get laid seeing as how it IS something both parts should want

Kind of
Women spend a ton of time on hair and makeup and all that

>if a woman who has that thing that I find appealing or has a big set of tits and that other thing I find appealing comes along she's just ignored

> tfw little fats stealing the spotlight again

t. big fat

What I find personally appealing sexually is more important then big tits.
But if a girl with big tits ALSO has that thing that I find personally appealing sexually then it's a massive bonus.

Get it?
Big tits are hot, but I don't have a particular attraction to large tits so they're just really hot but not a show stopper.
They are a bonus? Get it.

>You're in northern europe, a stones throw away from the porn whore capital of the planet.

What is the porn whore capital??

Yeah, they are +2 points like

it's very much true faggot, woman's body is developed like that since they deal with pregnancy shit, so they always have extra fat
I know because I'm a professional rower, having a very easy time keeping my fat at 12%, while women struggle with 20-ish percent