Define "Art" such that it keeps out the types of "art" you hate

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Something that is created that is enjoyable or pleasant to the senses

Something that takes skill to make.

>go on to make baubles and knick-knacks

Are young women art?

Something is art if it's clear to onlookers that it's meant to be art without context.

Definitely!
Also don't know if I'd call birthing "creation"

Any delibarately-created image, sculpture, literature, video game, or performance (musical, theater, etc.) that showcases a facet of existence and imparts emotions onto the average viewer.

Art is not and should not be a term of value judgement. That's retarded.

young women are pornography, young men are art

Art is something I consider art.

Skill, time, effort, and these

A reflection of the society and reality that we live in that is both clever and relatable.

Art is defined by intention of creative expression. That can succeed or not succeed, so art can be good or bad, while still remaining art. Paintings for postcards are as much art as Van Gogh, but they are nowhere near him in quality or value.
>such that it keeps out the types of "art" you hate.
I can't do that.

art is entirely subjective

Art I like.

Performance art is not art. Can't wait for this shit to die off.

Other forms can be considered art even if they're mostly crap.

Gaming webcomics

Thats a fools errand.
I say we should get rid of art.

Art is whatever you don't like.

nope, art is objectively the expression of his author, it also has many intersubjective meaning.

>"Any tangible or intangible result of human expression"
I don't hate any art :)

slam poetry and slam poetry alone is art

For me to enjoy art it needs to be intelligent Clever witty fun or historically important... any of those coming from someone that has a strong opinion and a particular vied on life
Great artists are the one who trained both the hand and the brain
I study art and i can't count the guys around me that have extremely solid art skills but uninteresting work

>art has to be pleasant to look at

>Define "Art" such that it keeps out the types of "art" you hate.

Human expression and creativity. This is inherently broad. It is not a value judgement.

art means skill and an artwork is something created with skill.

btw you don't need to redefine the word and this is literally already the definition.

Requires skill.

Does music evoke Aesthesis in people?
Yes.
Therefor...

Fuck this is a good one

No, it's a pipe

this

Honestly this. Slam poetry is the highest for of art, everything else prior cannot compare.

This

Art is not art.

Art? More like FArt, lmao

look at this kid and laugh

It's trying to get your fellow humans to experience an emotion that you want to share that's impossible to describe with words alone.
We all experience and feel things that are very difficult to explain, and art is how we try to share those feelings and ideas with others in a complex way.

Risk.

Things that are aesthetically pleasing (subjective).

>redefining art so bad art is no longer art.

This seems completely futile. Why not just say it's shit art?

Very shallow.

>Art is the sum of skill and dedication.

How's that?

>artist is classically trained
>actually reflects something: a person, landscape, an event
>abstract is okay but not Pollack style "I dripped some paint on a canvas and then got shitfaced drunk" shit
>graffiti may look pretty but it isn't art

How about an alternative world?
Artists should never enjoy a quality of life higher than the average working man.
An artist should forever be tempted by the fact that by abandoning his art and finding an average trade he will make more money and stand higher socially.

Ensures an artist pursues art for the love of art, and never money, fame, etc.
If artists are still coming up with gimmicks or exploiting (political) confirmation bias after that, then so be it.

I came here to say that.

oh. I like this one

Art is anything, whether painting, music, sculpture, etc. that is created because of a passionate desire to make that thing, simply because you want to see it made, and for no other purpose.

You have this amazing idea for a book, and write it, because you want to post it online and show everyone this really cool thing you thought of. That's art. Now, you have this amazing idea for a book, and write it, because you think it could be a major hit and you could make a lot of money from this original idea, that's the exact opposite of art, it's a product. Doesn't matter how much time and effort you put into it, how mindblowing it might be, you created it with the intention of selling it, and thus are not an artist, but an artisan.

Wrong.

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A subjective view of reality. It's the complete opposite of science, the (attempted) objective view of reality.

What about tragedy?

I 100% agree. Making big money in art corrupts artists

You think you're important but you're not

Art is any means of passageway from one humans mind to another. When saying you like/enjoy certain art, you're saying you approve of how someone applied themselves.

A sunset is not art.

>user doesnt see anything other than his lust
Look at him and laugh!

fpbp

>A sunset is not art.

physical effort?

I mean a naturally occurring sunset. Someone's interpretation of it, yes.

This

Not exactly. It takes a lot of effort to make 10ft pile of manure, but would you agree with me if I called said pile art?

Self Expression

Tragedy is simply pain made beautiful

>art doesn't need to be beautiful
Modernism was a mistake

is literature not art?

Better yet, excellence.

Finally, a post I can agree with.

These

Art is a product of human craftmanship, involving skill and effort, for the purpose of conveying a message, idea or emotion to others, as effectively as possible.

Any skillful expression of meaning

Art is an image, a reflection, of a message a person wants to convey. It has to have some kind of meaning, which actually makes sense in logical or abstract terms.

Short : Even trash can be art. As long as some effort has been put into it.

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Excellence is too fluid of a concept.
I like this definition.

yes actually that's pretty impressive.

Anything that requires some technical skill to draw/paint/sculpt, and excluding the modern shite about it being open to 'interpretation'.

Basically anything created with the intention of being 'open to interpretation' is shite.

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