Irrational PUA hate

Why is it that guys who actually talk to and (trigger word) fuck girls get so much hate on this board.

When will you realize that "making it" not only includes having the looks, but also the personality and ability to swoon women?

Theres a difference between PUAs and normal confident successful guys.

Its the PUAs who are retarded. They basically use stupid tricks until they find a desperate woman. Then say they are pros at picking up women.

making it never truly was about women though. It's just a nice side effect.

And are you seriously asking why we focus on physiological stuff on a fitness board?

Jelly men and women who are terrified of any of the guys who show up in cbt threads getting a sense of selfworth and becoming chads who won't even look at them.

That's all.

It's all well and good to "worship" and look up to a complete fuccboi like Zyzz because he's a spineless twink who's entire sense of self depended upon his fake persona and everyone could see that.
Why? Because he had an apparent weakness to exploit.
Same for Shwarzenegger his pics are from back in the day.

The rest of the guys?
ASSHOLES WHO NEED TO BE TAKEN DOWN A PEG and YOU NEED A GIRLFRIEND CAUSE FUCKING RANDOM GIRLS IS BAD and ESCORTS ARE DUH DEBUL CONTINUE THROWING MONEY AND EFFORT AWAY ON UP THEIR OWN ASS 5/10s!!

PUA is for autistic betas who value their lives with no higher purpose than benis in bagina. Fucking pathetic. Pic related.

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Who cares about women, getting women is easy, you don't need to be fit or anything. If you got into lifting because of women then you're honestly an idiot.

PUA is nothing but a scam designed to make you spend your hard earned shekels.

>le jews
>le it's a scam designed by teh goberment

Fuck off back to /pol/ already.

THE JOOS

Why do those who encompass the alt-right shoot themselves in the foot whenever it comes to getting laid? I hate Jews, niggers and degeneracy but somehow, anything that could score pussy is somehow haram.

Veeky Forums is /pol/.

Except for /co/ for some reason.

Because alt-right people are almost always religious and conservative, and fornicating with the other gender is considered haram unless you're married. Most of /pol/ is alt right and believe that hitler should've won because of 'muh degeneracy' (when he slept with his family members, endorsed inbreeding because of le perfect aryan raec and wanted to kill genetic diversity). This should give you an idea about the kind of morons who visit /pol/ regularly and take it seriously. When somebody says he's from /pol/ that's just his way of saying 'you can ignore my opinion, it's irrelevant'.

1/10

>It's all well and good to "worship" and look up to a complete fuccboi like Zyzz because he's a spineless twink who's entire sense of self depended upon his fake persona and everyone could see that.
>implying having a persona when it's useful is somehow worse than drinking your own kool-aid and brain-washing yourself with spooks
it's not

>le I'll call it bait without countering any of the points posted

Yeah sure. Why don't you go back to /pol/ and post some more about muh perfect aryan race you massive fucktard.

The "alt-right" springs from social conservatism. Trying to score pussy is a form of pursuing hedonism that runs contrary to their commonly held philosophy of stoicism. In terms of spiral dynamics their within blue level and view pua activity as a less evolved activity that threatens the social order they want to establish.

>Because alt-right people are almost always religious and conservative

Dude you lost me right there. That is total bullshit. The alt-right is a term coined by the media to label a group of holocaust deniers who hate Jews, multiculturalism and political correctness. That is the unifying holy-trinity of the alt-right and everything else is a diverse clusterfuck of epic proportions.

That is a good answer. Cheers

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>The alt-right is a term coined by the media to label a group of holocaust deniers who hate Jews, multiculturalism and political correctness.

What people would possibly be stupid enough to deny an entire world event like the holocaust, hate jews and can't form actual, coherent political opinions? Gee I wonder, I bet it starts with p and ends with l. Maybe /pol/ I guess.

>My opinion

Except you didn't even offer one in the first place. "1/10" is not an opinion, maybe it's too much for you to process through your brain.

If you have personality and the ability to genuinely attract women you don't need to bother with trp or pua bullshit.

It's dishonest. I don't see any point to pretending to be someone I'm not in order to put my dick in an overused hole.

The people that whoever puts within this label are always religious and a type of conservative. You can be think they just mean internet nazis and get offended by it, but they don't and its just a new label to lump them together with the same old enemies they've always had and apparently some weird new ones like Vladimir Putin for whatever reason.

>fuccboi

go away beta male

They are are all jews though user, you can't deny the facts when they're before your eyes.

Because PUA shit is not about developing your personality. It's about tricking girls into fucking you even if you have nothing going on for you.

Queer please.

Fuccboi has more pull IRL then the whole alpha/beta thing that fucking losers and below average chicks shill online.

Making it = Ambition / realistic goals + time

Therefore 'It' is variable depending on the individual

My definition of "making it" does not include any other human beings.

>It's about tricking guys into fucking you even if you have nothing going on for you.

Basically every single magazine and show on television aimed at women.

But you are right about PUA guys.
They're mostly a bunch of swindling losers who play up their 5/10 and below chicks they accidentally pull in most cases as 8+/10 and above to push their shitty garbage to absolute fucking losers and loserettes who think that by reading their shit that they are "ARMING THEMSELVES WITH KNOWLEDGE" and protecting themselves.

Have you actually seen what's that fagg with the stupid hat's ex-wife? Mystery Conundrum, Enigma? Whatever?
Bitch is straight up average and she cheated on him AND LEFT HIS ASS!
If this dude is pulling these beautiful hot bitches 24/7 then he should be able to make one of them into a housewife!

All it takes is 2 muntes of SMOOth talking and a pua had already got your girls number and a date set to cuck you

>facts

Most of that 'infographic' (if it can be even called that) is some guy's keyboard masturbating about how the jews are evil lizardmen who are trying to take over the world by poisoning le society. Whoever came up with this shit is obviously not very well knowledgable about politics.

if you cant squat 3 plates m8 you aren't a man

my gf tries to start fights between guys that hit on her and myself. good luck PUA, start some CQC training or stay home manlets :/

>it's teh juice guys!

I hate PUA as the next sane man, but this image is hilariously stupid. Not only is there zero proof provided that these men are jews, but the claim at the end that jews "poison absolutely every aspect of society" ruins any credibility the jaypeg could have had. Apply yourself, /pol/.

If a man quickly catches a fish every time he casts his rod, he's an amazing fisherman.

If a man casts his rod thousands of times and rarely catches a fish, he's nothing special.

It has to do with relative effort/attempts and success rate.

If you hit on literally every girl you see, you'll probably "pick up" more girls than a guy who only asks a girl out when he's really taken with her, but if you get rejected 1000 times for every one time that he gets rejected, then you look pathetic.


There's a difference between being a PUA and a player. A player asks out a lot of women but also GETS most of the women he asks out. A PUA asks out a lot of women and DOESNT GET most of them

We all know that there's a certain personality type that is successful with women. We can describe it in vague terms like "be funny, be confident but not cocky", and so on, even though a lot of us can't actually apply that to a real conversation with a real girl.

Chad describes this as "just being yourself", but unless you are Chad, you know that "just being yourself" will simply scare away most girls.

All PUA is, is the study of that personality type for those who aren't born with it. You'll see some guys saying "Don't listen to those PUA guys, just do THIS", and what they are telling you to do is actually most of the same stuff the PUA guys teach.

>Basically every single magazine and show on television aimed at women.

Yeah except for women it's more about ensnaring him for good, while for men it's more about just fucking.

>Personality

m8, I started lifting at 13 because I wanted to be Ryu. niggas autistic as fuck. Leave "personality" to faggots like Ren. I just want to avenge my cat.

Nice try Shlomos, but the jig is up.

>Thinking that the definition of making it on a fitness board is anything else besides getting shredded

>hurr durr
>'just be urself' is a meme

its not a meme you fuckfaces.
im not funny. im not charming.

i just say whatever the fuck is on my mind at the time.

all you have to do is be confident in yourself. girls love it because they never know what to expect from you.
you are genuine.

that's why 'just b urself bro' is not a meme.

fucking betas man i swear.

Robert Greene is fucking dope though desu.

By "ensnaring him for good" do you mean getting an 18 year long source of income or what?
Because that's what it means now.

As for men. Many guys just want that one and only but they are constantly bombarded from all angles with "FUCK ALL YOU CAN BECAUSE THAT DEFINES YOU AS A MAN" and any form of true courtship has been ruined by modern media and consumerist demands.

good post

9/10

Most people have no idea what PUA is. They think it's wearing ridiculous clothing and memorizing pick up lines, even though only a small minority of PUAs choose to incorporate these aspects, and they aren't even necessary. In reality, PUA is just emulating those aspects of Chad's personality which make him successful with women. This would include being confident, funny, cocky, being an asshole (yes, it does work) and so on. Many men already do these things naturally, which is why they're successful with women. If you don't do these things naturally, then it's in your interest to learn them.

>b-but it's manipulation! You're faking it!
All goal-based interaction is manipulation. When you're trying to convince your friend to come with you to a party, you're manipulating him. Don't get upset just because some of us are better at it then you are. As far as the faking aspect is concerned, that's only temporary. After a few months of consistent practice, you won't even have to think about it anymore, because it will become natural to you. But even if I still had to fake it, I'd rather be dishonest and get laid than be honest and >tfw no gf, like most of you on this board.

>b-but PUA only works because of numbers!
Not true. While there is a learning curve during which you approach a lot of women in order to get your technique down, after you've done that, you can drop down the frequency of approaches to what it was before (assuming it was above zero, which it isn't for most of you) and still experience much greater success than before you had learned game.

pretty much those.
once you are a nice, interesting person, you don't need shitty pua advice in order to get girls. pua its going very low, like pretending something, reading a shitload of manuals, acting all the time, to get some shitty girls. its not improvement, its being pathetic to impress other pathetic guys.

And what does "being a nice and interesting person" mean? This is vague bullshit that doesn't help anyone, you might as well say "just be yourself, man". Those "shitty PUA manuals" actually specifically explain how to improve your life, which is what the people who tried and failed the "just be yourself" method need.

be nice: don't be a fucking dickhead

be interesting: know a lot about a lot, be able to communicate well, have unusual hobbies, be interested in the world around you, be spontaneous, quirky, adventurous, have a lot of varied experiences, live in the moment.
ie just don't be a fucking drone that just gets there, asks fuckloads of boring questions and talks about his job/school

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Bullshit.

Take a real interest in other people, if you want to be interesting to them. Dead fucking simple.

The funny thing is, like diet, most idiots fucking know this, but refuse to make the effort.

seek help

well I am a very hungry man who hasn't eaten fish for a year.
I would give a lot to have the confidence to cast my rod for every fish i meet

Yeah that's what I was gonna say, his books are full of interesting ass stories, who the fuck reads them for PUA tips

Yeah but he's a JOO

They don't tell you how to improve your life, they tell you how to fuck the kinds of girls who fuck guys who act like that. Personally I'd get a whore instead. If you want to fuck sluts it's easy, just pay.

because a PUA is basically a scumbag sociopath... it is possible to get girls without being a total asshole.

Good goy

>all these jews are jews! It's FACTS
Okay show me the actual percentage of all PUAs and their religious and ethnic backgrounds. You don't have it? Guess you're just a cherry picking faggot then :^)

It is because most of the people who claim to be PUA are just betas sitting behind a computer shit posting. This board is about fitness, not an imaginary chad competition.

And Veeky Forums..

And like 60% of Veeky Forums

this pic is triggering me so hard right now

You just are, or you aren't.

Red pill is the shit man
Its just bettering yourself as a man while learning women's true colors and that you've been lied to by mom and society since you were born.
>be yourself
>don't put yourself first, be a nice guy
All fucking bullshit

>be yourself
Seems to work for me bro, sorry you were born a sperg.

Only child
Raised by single mom
I was a little bitch
The red pill was the dad i never had

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>an entire world event like the holocaust

What about 911? You believe the official story there? All conspiracy theories are automatically false in your naive world view, aren't they?

>/pol/ is right yet again

when can we finish the extermination?

Well, on Wednesday, run outside with your gun screaming about kill the kikes. If nobody else joins you, it's not time yet.

>implying the holocaust even happened
>implying multiculturalism and political correctness are good things

Open your eyes user.

jews have their hands in all kinds of degeneracy that poison white societies and only white societies. you are bluepilled as fuck, one day you will see it too and feel like a fucking retard