/plg - Powerlifting Generally

Lifter A weighs 70 kg and lifts 210
Lifter B weighs 150 kg and lifts 450

Now go ahead and tell me what takes more dedication? What is more common? Which one is rarer and harder to achieve?

This is why bw multipliers are wrong to use, since it would seem the lighter lifter is stronger, yet we all know a 450 deadlift can be done only by a few select men. 210 kg a 70 bw is impressive but is still common in the PL world yet it would seem they are equally strong. This is not the case imo

Phil is immunised against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Finn and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

Diminishing returns

>Untrained dudes at 60kg can probably squat 60kg the first week.
There's a fucking meme on Veeky Forums about a guy that went to the ER because he tried a "bodyweight" squat in sandals on the first day in the gym.

It may have something to do with a natural phenomenon of changing size/surface area ratio as you make things bigger.

>surface area of a sphere has a r^2 factor
>volume of a sphere has a r^3 factor

therefore the ratio between size and surface area is r^3/r^2=r. As you make something bigger and bigger, the ratio grows, meaning that volume-related factors dominate surface-area-related factor. A volume related force is like weight, and a volume related force is like the adhesion of water. This is why water spontaneously runs up a paper towel, but it doesn't spontaneously run up a drinking straw.

Also why ants can pick up many multiples of their weights, but an elephant can't pick up another elephant.

The same principle might be causing the change in strength in terms of bodyweight-multiples in your powerlifting data.

I'm thinking about trying Hepburn for my pressing but with 5x2 instead. I am going to replace bench with push press anyway since it's better for my goal.

PP/OHP/Rest/PP/OHP/Rest/Rest

I am not sure what I could do about squat though. Do you think squatting on the days I press would be okay 4x week working to a max and doing backoff sets? I'd pair PP with BS and OHP with Front squat?

If you had to choose, would you rather DL after front or back squats?

It took this long for someone to bring up the square cube law

Shame on you plg.

Wilks made a mathematical fit to the powerlifting world records and gold medals of the 80s powerlifting and assigned a world class score as being 500.

The coefficients are derived from a curve of best fit to old powerlifting results.

he probably wasnt 60kg then

You smart.

During deadlift you externally rotate your arms to "lock" your back/engange lats

Mike T says the stronger you get, the better you get at getting tight and locking everything in.

Do you liteally externally rotate your arms as hard as possible to get as tight as possible?

>This is why water spontaneously runs up a paper towel
I thought this is capillary action unless I'm not understanding something.

yes, and capillary action only happens because in small 'columns' (the gaps between the fibers of the paper towel) water's adhesive force overcomes it's weight force. In the similar case of a drinking straw, the column of water is much wider, and the water's weight force overcomes the water's adhesive force.

Is wilks gonna update the formula soon? I think I recall someone (You?) saying so.

He apparently wants to update the formula (mostly because of how outdated the data is) but doesn't really think he has the time or that the IPF would actually change over. That's all secondhand though.

anyone in the southeast want picking up to go train??

Bump urgent need to lift today.

Does this seem retarded or ok?

A. Push Press, BSQ,
B. OHP, FSQ, DL

ABxABxx

Pressing follows Hepburn progression, Squatting follows daily max and back off style and DL will be a nuckols template.

Honestly sounds like it's going to be a clusterfuck of competing goals.

questions you need to ask yourself

1. WHY are you doing those specific lifts
2. WHY are you doing those progression methods for those lifts
3. are you addressing your specific weaknesses

if you cant explain the whys then yes its retarded because you dont know why you are doing it

Sup dorks

Never done anything powerlifting before, been on pplpplx for about a year, had an athletic base before

Currently 18yo, 5'10, 82kg/181lb

Lifts:
B: 90kg/200lb x5 touch and go
S: 150kg/330lb x3 below parallel
D: 165kg/365lb x1conventional

My question is, there's a novice competition in 8 weeks, and if I went, would I get absolutely stomped? Is it worth the $50 entry? I don't know how good my lifts are compared to other people

I also know my bench is behind, it's because I have a massive butt/legs

Will post ass if I get good advice

its a novice comp, its designed for you

It's a novice comp. No-one will give two fucks about what you lift or where you place.

Where were you when I needed you for 3 weeks straight

Exactly what I'm thinking myself.

I know I'm in PLG, but I do not bench and my poverty gym makes it impossible to bench. I really only care about my OHP and squat. I haven't pulled for months but I realize I should probably start to prevent imbalances since my squat is now stronger than my DL.

I'd like to prioritize my press but still have a strong focus on my squat and DL for my lacking back and posterior chain.

I've read Hepburn is great for pressing, before this I was squatting 3x week via Greg Nuckols and it was working very well but I was not developing my strength at heavier weights. (80%+).

So to fit Hepburn and squat heavily more than twice a week, the only thing I could find was ""daily"" maxing but do it 4x week.
>I am equally weak and have no glaring weakness, just the obvious ones like first part of strict press etc.

Stats:

(These are estimated maxes which I don't think are accurate because I rarely do 80%+ work which I need)

75kg BW
75kg OHP
150kg Squat
150kg DL (Months ago)

Those are good numbers for a woman, you should absolutely sign up.

Check the weight classes first, my area has a movie yearly comp and there's a sub 80kg and a sub 100kg class, if yours is the same then lose a couple kg first, that way you're competing with guys who are gonna be mostly smaller/weaker than you, rather than lifting against 95kg blokes.

If you're cutting weight just to 'impress' people with your results at an unsanctioned comp, you're kind of fucking up.

just found isley's reddit account
what the FUCK

isley is such a fucking talentcuck its not even funny

HE LOOKED LIKE THIS AND HAD A 467.5KG TOTAL AT 17

FUUUUUUUUCCKKKKKK
why do i even fucking bother trying?

>reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/3fwqpa/my_4_year_powerlifting_progress_17_years_old_to/

those are good stats for your age group (subjunior)

youll do okay, you certainly wont be laughed at or anything with those numbers

th-thanks
The weight class I'd probably going for is sub 85

He threw it all away tho.
>tfw you'll never be able to convince Isley to be lean again

I'm willing to take this a step further as a general PSA - unless you are competing at a championship that requires you to lift in the weight class you nominated for, are attempting a qualifying total in a certain weightclass, or you are attempting to break a record in a certain weight class at a competition, cutting weight for a local competition is silly.

The number of people I know who kill themselves to cut weight so they can step on the platform and get a 350 Wilks total at 66kg and 5'11 in a local competition in which the winner gets a little prefab medal and their only other competition is a 54 year old man is surprisingly high. I hope this is just a PA thing but I fear for the worst.

Only cut weight when you absolutely need to.

I was moving down a weight class my first comp then I injured myself badly and couldn't go LOL

I'd add one more exception, but its kind of tied to the others - figuring out how to handle your weight cuts in an arena where mistakes don't really matter. Nationals or similar is the last place you want to be gambling on something new.

average for any teenager with an athletic background desu

go outside you fuckwit

like 1 in a million 17 year olds might look like isley

This is an important point and must also be considered. However, I would still save these dry runs for later in your lifting career.

That being said, you're gonna be your strongest when you carry the most muscle that your frame can handle so you might as well just keep floating up until your weight flattens out.

oh that's convenient you decided to read first half of my sentence the ignore the rest

oh that's convenient you decided to read the first half of my sentence then ignore the rest

I need to take a nap

Probably closer to 1 in 100 high school athletes look like that, I'd you amount for all sports.

In football it's like 1 in 10 guys have that combo of muscle and leanness.

Better than candy, you're so dandy,
Butter cup dancer, I love you!

Literally just shit my pants doing box squats. The gym owner chased me out of the gym hly fuck

Trip on Isley

I don't even know who you are. Why would a girl post here? What's your bench, 30 pounds? Not like you can deadlift over 500lbs. Who are you, seriously? Why do you need a trip? Are you a WR holder in something other than sucking dick?

...

HEY
thats MY world record, cunt

I have a 300 wilks, which is higher than a few other trips lol

I've heard "anti-shrug" used to describe it before, I think that'll get you what you want moreso than just thinking about external rotation.

>Why would a girl post here?
Not trying to white knight or anything, dont even like esme

but why not? powerlifting isn't a gender specific sport brah. ofc they'll lift less, doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to participate

I don't know why you think that's impressive for a vanilla midget who never drew a dime. What is your purpose?
Who the fuck is this bozo? Never reply to me again.

I literally out wilks other people here, (Sean).
You sound like an angst teenager who can't get laid so he takes his frustration out on women.

Lol, I'm sure your red neck mother will let you cup her tiddies kid, shouldn't you be in school right now anyway?

lurk moar brah

that is lith. he can deadlift 4 plate very very soon.

why do women make such cringey insults?

Why is user always an autistic man child?

I bet if I made it to IPF worlds, you'd all be cheering on my 4 plate deadlift as I'm pulling 320

>I'm 12 and I'm scared of women

>There are women who offer their bodies as though they were bestowing some inestimable gift upon you

Post lifts and pics or gtfo. Never drew a dime, not one

I was right, you are 12 lmao. Run along child before the mods ban you.

Because using a trip for no reason isn't just shitposting. White knights are sad.

Lads, competition in a few weeks. I know what to open with on squats/bench, but not sure on deadlift.

Squat: 200KG opener, Bench: 125KG opener, and I kinda want to try for a 240kg deadlift as a 2nd or 3rd attempt. What do?

You're autistic kid, may wanna read the trip code in the future.

If I were you in that comp I'd probably go 215 - 230 - 240. Deadlift openers and seconds should be on the conservative side. You'll be a little fried from squatting and benching.

That being said, what was your best triple or double in training?

Just open lighter than 240 kg

thestrengthathlete.com/freebies/
Bryce Lewis has a nice spreadsheet that can help
Ctrl+f "ATTEMPT SELECTION AID"

Example
1st: 217.5 2nd: 230 3rd: 240

Just make sure you get your opener. Beyond that it's fair game.

No one here knows how good you are at handling weights between 200-240 so it's up to you lad.

Time for a longer post,

Last competition I squatted Fail/200/205, benched 110/125/135(Fail from missgroove) and deadlifted 210/225/235(Fail, because I dropped it when I passed my shins for some reason)

training mostly sheiko, so no real heavy doubles. 200 for fairly easy doubles.

Everything moves slow with me though.

Copypasting my question here because qtddtot is retarded. Please help.

I have either misaligned hips or uneven leg length (may be both) and because I'm a retard I'm only realizing it almost a fucking year into lifting. Explains why I was never able to develop good form on my squats or deads. My question is what do I do about this? Is there a specialist I should see to determine the problem? Should I just make adjustments to my stances in those lifts? Basically all of my gym motivation comes from progressing on my squats and diddys and I've pretty much had to stop doing them since I'm building imbalanced muscles in my legs and back so I would really like to work this out.

Thank you, amigo.

I'll get my opener, no worries. I've used my last competition to qualify for nationals in the >93KG, trying to just get new PR's this competition.

Why fatigue yourself with the first 2 attempts and not just max out on the first attempt??

m.youtube.com/watch?v=INBY84sqrR0

Go see a physiotherapist. It's your best option and if they are competent they'll be able to help you.
Until then this video may help
youtube.com/watch?v=QSS1D0g6DN4.

Because bombing out isn't fun

DOCTOR

if you're american, then suck it up I guess.

No it was two plates.

He was

But then. Gaston kicked him off the exec

Haven't seen you lift but rule of thumb opener should be around 90-92% 1RM for diddly.

Not my reddit account

Troll account by sean

Also my total was much higher at 17

I'm a full cuck though. I've barely improved since I was 18

[spurler] also I was 16 in that pic [/nospoilertagsonfit/

Why don't you train harder? Do you really want to have peaked so young?

>tfw training for 9 months and almost at 120kg bench

Isley please

Lol

The head coach at BGWLC recently berated me for trying so hard and getting NOTHING out of training.

>Barely improved since 18

What kind of curse is this to put upon a man

M8 that entire post is bullshit

After a year or two at 17 my stats were

Summer 2010:
180/100/245
Summer 2011:
200/105/255
Then a two year break for rowing ending in 2013
Summer 2014:
210/120/282.5
Best lifts of 2015
212.5/130/287.5
Best lifts of 2016
222.5/155/285

The plateau is real

ive taken 4 weeks off, literally 10kg down and weak as fuck

but driving now

Guys, consider this, you do squats and deadlifts only, if you still do both but could only pick one to prioritize more for getting massive and also strong, which would you pick and why?

This is assuming you aren't doing it for your total or the platform, purely for getting big and stronger.

Obviously deadlifts

how is this even a question?

If you want to see me lift, I could send you a youtube link. Anywhere I can send it? (Prefer not to put my name out there on the chan.

Squats.

You can do many different variations of squats to target quads, glutez, posterior chain. It transfers well into other physical fitness like running/sprinting, jumping. Develops good mobility.

Is the difference that big? I haven't pulled in like a year. Squatting 160kg right now like 3x week.

Honestly it was because I'm not sure if should focus on my deadlift or squat pretty much for the reason of getting much bigger and stronger rather than increasing my total.