How long did you do strength training before you realized that it ruins your aesthics?

I luckily only fell for the strength training makes you aesthetic meme for about a year, my waist size went up 4 inches

Ask me if I will ever dead lift or squat heavy again.. protip: I wont

I'm pretty weak but I've been lifting (squats+deads included) for almost two years and my waist size is 28.

DESU senpai you prob have really shitty lifts so its not going to change you yet. If you keep lifting squats and deads and going up and up YOU WILL look like a fucking blocky retard

>actually wanting a narrow waist
>not wanting a thick dense waist

Oh well, not all of us are homosexuals interesting in having feminine body traits to attract other homosexuals.

Big traps, big back, big chest, big arms, big legs and a THICK AS FUCK core. Take your homosexual meme V-taper narrow waist that I could snap in half like a twig back to your Gay 4 Pay.

Literally 'real men like meat! dogs like bones'
Stay fat and virginal friend

I have 32 waist and Im 6'2. 5/4/3 lifts

>waist increasing from squats and deadlifts

You probably had wide child bearing hips to begin with fagt

Where did I say anything about body-fat %?

I believe you're a skelly-twink for simply implying that.

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What exactly does squatting and deadlifting, and gaining 1-3 inches due to lean mass building up around your waist because of it after years of doing it, have to do with some 50%+ bodyfat obese guy?

I am a homo sexual for wanting to look a way that maximizes my chance to sleep with as many women as possible? Have fun sitting in the bar by yourself playing on your phone and living in your brainwashed "tough guy" mentality. You keep telling yourself you are going to cut, but you are chubby and unnatractive. You think its cool because you lift a lot, but you are fat and you lie to yourself.

Having a 28 waist size is literally twink tier brah

sometimes models really do look like a clone army

>muh bearmode

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Is it me or is that guy ugly?
Do women and or homosexuals find that attractive?

Deadlifts are really the shittiest meme exercise there is

What you fail to understand is building a solid physique is not how you maximize having sex with as many women as possible.


What you're doing will only get you as much sex with as many men as possible.

Women want power, status, money, and they want to be the one who looks good for you.

Your entire belief system is based on the fact that you think most women only care about looks, when it's infact not true. Most care about money/status 1000x over looks.

Yes there are women who prefer looks over status/money, but they're the minority, not the majority.

That dude is legit kind of weird looking.

Like, individual features of his would be considered good, but somehow everything is just slightly off in a way that, when everything combines, they form some weird monstrosity.

this as long as you're not fat

maybe I'm biased since I have child bearing hips though

Sadly I fell for this shit as well. Now I look like a fucking t-rex and just run for legs.

I don't train legs

Hey DYEL fat chubby faggot.. you can lift all the metal up in the air and set back down. Stay mad, stay browsing r9k and fit and trying to validate your existance through shit posting.

I have been with more women then you will in your entire life kiddo.


DEAD LIFTS AND HEAVY SQUATS EQUAL UGLY ASS BLOCKY MID SECTIONS

The only people who look decent with this build are the people that diet hard as fuck and stay at or under 10 percent, even then in a shirt they just look like a fat fuck

you're so delusional my man
money and status won't get you serious feels or genuine intimacy, you think now in your bubble dream state that once you mined all those bitcoins and roll in your bmw then all dream girls will give you the experience of a lifetime. You're wrong and delusional, you will only be more sad, lonely and isolated than ever before.

This thread is full of skinny jeans wearing males who were raised by single mothers.

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and more

and another one

you think any of these guys think like you do? thinking you need a v-taper?

and you call me delusional

What are you trying to prove? do you WANT to be exploited by women I don't get it

Yeah rich dudes can afford whores.
What's your point?

bro I'm not even OP I don't give a shit about v taper or any of that bullshit, I lift for health and average body sculpture for myself, not for anyone

I just wanted to say that if you think you'll be happy with a woman that's after money and status, you're going to be really dissapointed

A v taper is easier to achieve and takes much less effort and time than being rich.
Getting rich takes decades of ultra hard work and luck

It's not being exploited. It's a simple trade. Trading sex appeal for your status/wealth. This is how women have been for thousands of years.

You've just been brought up on homoerotic media/entertainment that pushes the whole homosexual shit on young boys, who turn out to be like you guys....."""""""""""Men""""""""" acting like women.

>Ask me if I will ever dead lift or squat heavy again.. protip: I wont
will you ever dead lift or squat heavy again?

> talking about creating a legitimate muscular frame with use beyond one man's quest for the aesthetic approval of others
> calling it fat
This isn't Veeky Forumsg

dude.... what are you talking about?

Trading sex appeal for status/wealth? That's not how attraction works lmao have you ever been around a woman? It seems like you're the one who's being brought up on media/entertainment

>Women want power, status, money, and they want to be the one who looks good for you

Women want to marry a man with these things to gain access to them. Women want to have sex with attractive men.

Alpha fux beta bux

.t virgin

HAHAHA TOPKEK TOPKEK

If there was ANY doubt in my mind that you were fucking ugly as fuck it is gone!! You already planning on paying for sex at your age!? You must be a fucking gunther tier virgin..

sidenote, anybody have the chad brad thad and gunther tier image?

You've clearly never been around a high status man with great wealth. They pick up more women than any average middle-class stereotypical alpha-male chad does.

You seriously just don't get it. Alpha male chads just have sex with tons and tons of women who are 5/10 and below. High status wealthy men pull 10/10s on a daily fucking basis.

You just don't get it, do you? You thick headed cunt.

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Pic related starts hitting on a woman.

Do you think she gives a fuck how much money he makes or his "status" (top kek)

*Assume this guy is completely unknown to her

>comparing pics of people who've lifted for 3 months to people who've been lifting for 10 years

Why do people on here use this as an excuse to get out of doing squats and deadlifts?

I love all these newfags that complain about no strength gains after one week or no aesthetics after a couple months

Can't I just continue strength training on top of bro split?

It's like an extra 40 minutes in the gym.

Do you think those women care about the man though> They only care about using whats in his wallet. You dont honestly think the women with those fat hideous men in the pictures above give a shit about them?

1. He has a blocky waist/core.

2. Women will dump him if they find out he earns fuck all $$$

if a beta cuck like yourself is nearby for contrast, he is certain to get laid

She'll sleep with him, tho. No doubt.

High status men do drugs you've never even heard about because they can't handle the gaping self-agonizing hole of isolation, loneliness and lack of empathy or understanding a normal person requires, as well as dealing with the constant struggle between fishing out people who are trying to extort, lie and manipulate you on a daily basis, that includes women. There is no love, no intimacy, no emotion, no passion, there's only escapism into more drugs, hedonistic entertainment and degeneracy with that lifestyle. If you think that will make you happy, you are sadly mistaken.

It's clear from your posts you're a basement virgin that has never touched or been in the vicinity of a woman or for that matter held a conversation enough to build any attraction with her. And if you had any, then it couldn't have been farther than an escort or something of the sort. Otherwise you wouldn't be writing all this dumb shit about things you fabricated for yourself just to deal with your issues.

Put that guy in the same room with a high status wealth businessman who earns more in 10 minutes than that guy does in 10 years, then yes....this buff dude will be invisible.

Few things

Being rich and powerful and buying women or whores isn't some new thing. It's something that has existed in all human civilizations since the beginning.
It's what the wealthy/powerful/famous did. And it's what hopeless fucking losers who couldn't pull women with their looks or personality did. IE Rippetoe.

Lastly, men have cared about their apperance and have gone out of their way to show that they are genetically superior in looks and ability in every society you can name. Period.
Preening isn't some new thing. It's as old as humanity.

You are right how modern media is desperately trying to turn young boys into fags and girls into pansexual basket cases.
Problem is that young boys hate modern media outside of games and youtube and young girls basically call a dyke a dyke when it comes to most females.

The signs for what is considered attractive to the opposite sex is being taken over by rich people looking to talk dumbasses into buying stuff, homosexuals who're looking for fucktoys, and creeps in high places looking for the power that comes from manipulating or being deeply imbeded into something so vital to how humanity works. IE the porn industry, the fashion industry, religious zealots, the gay mafia, the feminists, I can go on.

And who will she be thinking of when theyre fucking?

it's just good 'netics

No they will not.

He will still have to go through the shit-tests before he gets laid.

Unless he has shit finances and other shit put together (or at least appear to have it together) he will get dumped instantly.

a Black Man

please tell me manbun + beard isn't replacing Hitler Youth + beard

If this dude was in bar, at a fundrasier, etc etc etc with a shirt on. And a top tier investor or CEO walks in, lambo getting parked in the backdrop by valet, guess waht nigga.. your man bun fantasy does not work here

The woman will jump all over the CEO and want to suck his dick, he is the ulitmate male. He is alpha in his mind and spirit, not just some runty little retard that squats every day hahah fuck kid, your never gonna make it

>He will still have to go through the shit-tests before he gets laid.

Shit tests are for online bullshit and for dudes who don't make their panties instantly moist or teleport to her purse or ankle.

Not the guy you're replying to but damn you're retarded

that will never happen
maybe in a cartoon
maybe in a tv show
maybe in your deluded fantasy

that will literally never happen if there is instant attraction between the guy and the girl, dude could be shitting money out of his ass on the pavement she would not give a shit, go back to your fake czech porn videos and stop shitting up the board

she doesnt want the ceo
she wants his money but she wants to fuck the manbun dude

This x10000.

It's amazing how ignorant the kids on here are. They've never been around a high status wealthy male before in their life. They literally have no idea how quick the social dynamics change in that scenario.

They still think its a high-school/community college campus where all that matters is looks.

Goto a high end university, where extreme wealthy people are at. On multiple occasions 5'4 ugly fat asian manlets with legitimate 10/10's, and you wonder why that's even possible, until you see the guy driving out of the university parking lot in his $500,000 car.

So what? We should all strive to be CEOs instead of becoming more fit?
Let's be honest.
No one in this thread will ever become a multimillionaire ceo or a model tier dude.
This bitch fest is for fucking losers who will achieve fuck all.

And who in the fuck keeps bringing up ceos and shit on Veeky Forums of all places? Go to fucking Veeky Forums goddamnit. We don't give a shit about your billionaire pussy slayer fantasies or desperate need to worship the wealthy.

Hmmm if I am retarted and have a net worth of 1.8 million at age 29 then what the fuck does that make you? A broke, loser, 9 to 5 faggot.

Something you little shit heads forget, is looks fade. When your T drops and you age, you are going to start looking like shit. Also women are going to care less and less about looks as life goes on. The man with wealth and status wins every time kiddo.

Come see me in 10 years, if you can afford to fly where ever I am at, and get the time off your wage slavery job you fucking clueless peice of shit

You're not a millionaire.
You're a fucking loser who is desperately trying to prove how much better off you are to people who do not care.

And this is an anonymous board you fucking idiot. How in the shit can anyone come see you in 10 years?

>Come see me in 10 years
I would but I'm pretty sure by that time your mom's basement will be taken by the bank, along with your house for that failed mortgage payment, since obviously the only thing you can afford doing with your time is shitposting on fit.

Yeah, anyone who does not get this concept has never been around real wealth and status. There are little ugly manlets fucking 10s every damn weekend.

The ones that really kill it are the ones that go to the same venues and people know who they are, all the bartenders find out who he is and how much money he has and they fight for his attention. The girls in the club feed off the energy and seek him out to.

I am a millionaire and I am not 30 yet, (8 months) but I happen to be decent looking. Prob a 6 to be honest. the venues I got I liiterally dont try anymore.

this does not even metnion tinder. I have a pic of my lambo, my penthouse, and me in few countries, I get hit up all the fucking time by girls that I know damn well are out of my league.

>retarted
yeah, sure, everyone here believes you are a millionaire

You're just being a child. That dude is mega-hot and a girl looking for sex will fucking FIND IT if he approaches her.

Are you thinking I'm suggesting this guy is approaching a married woman of 40 while she is working in a rice paddy in Taiwan? No. This is Ben; he saw you sitting at the bar and wants to know if you'd like drinks back at his apartment or maybe catch something at yours. You answer "sure" and your head is screaming "HOLY FUCK I AM GOING TO TELL EVERYONE EVERYONE EVERYONE ABOUT THIS"

Veeky Forums - Fitn- Successful Millionaires

Oh please tell me again how much money I have.. lol.

I can tell that triggered you, so now there is no doubt you are very low paid. Average at best, best case you are a shitty little analyst for some no name firm. Have fun getting my coffee and running my errands.. any girl you like in this corporation is as good as mine.

She's not looking to put a $500 bill against her clitoris. She wants that manbun on it.

But she'll put up with the CEO to get that money, eventually. Just like she'll put up with the degenerate poorfag with a body that makes her explode every time she (and all her girlfriends) see him.

>any girl you like in this corporation is as good as mine.
I know you're just baiting at this point but it's pretty sad how the reality of it is that there are ceos and managers out of touch with reality that legit think exactly like this just to deal with their loneliness.

This balding jew manlet gets approached by 10/10s constantly because of his status on twitch.tv.

Of course they want to use him for his influence and attention he can bring to their own twitch channels, but they go out of their way to call him hot, sexy, alpha etc.

Why? Because he has high status in the community he is in, he is the alpha dog in his own way.


The same can be said about YouTubers like Leafy, ugly halfbred gook 100 pound soaking wet guy that spammed sexual messages and offers by 10/10s on a daily basis.

You realize that a guy in a half million dollar car is even rarer (and more intimidating) than a jock with his cock ready to rock at a party.

It's all fucking beside the point about the money. You don't seem to want to admit a sexy dude is attractive. Just like all the "lifters" here who think muscles will get them the girl, you seem to be the type that thinks money will get you the supermodel. You're both right! Takes a LOT more money than muscles, though. And you'll keep the girl an equal amount of time ('til she's bored).

>You don't seem to want to admit a sexy dude is attractive.
HAHHAHAHA BECAUSE IM NOT GAY YOU FUCKING FAGGOT LOLKOLOLLOLOLP

Then you didn't do it right or your genetics are low tier. Aesthetics are heavily dependent on the biological look of success as male/female:

-defined muscles, v-taper and large frame (large meaning lean muscle mass>bodyfat). Its literally visual pheromones

You're not wrong, everything you said is true. Those women seek to exploit this sort of thing, I've even mentioned several times how money and status only attracts these type of people. But what you're not getting is that that's not what intimacy with a woman is like.

You're saying that all women, besides a small minority, do this. Which is fundamentally, logically and pure plain statistically wrong.

What companies have you worked for? Do you really think this isn't true? I am only middle management and I have torn through at least 20 something girls in departments under neath me. My dad is old as fuck, he stays lean and dresses insanley nice, and we joke around about how easy it is to fuck these girls. A lot of them are married and have boyfriends, but that shit goes out the window quick when your bosses boss asks you over to his place

that's a pretty ugly frown

when will these people learn to stop making "silly" expressions for pictures?

>How long did you do strength training before you realized that it ruins your aesthics?
How long did you suck dick before you realized you're a flaming faggot?

Here's a 'pro tip' for you:
>YOU NEVER HAD ANY AESTHETICS IN THE FIRST PLACE

Dad is upper level management**

Quality post gunther

this b8 is as old as Veeky Forums. Can't make it so instead of showing character and determination, says "its shit anyways" with laughable logic.

That's pretty fucked up bro, how do you live with yourself? I guess I shouldn't ask since if your dad brought you up to behave in such an amoral and unethical manner then you probably live with yourself just fine.

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

I actually believe you bro, don't worry about these tards in here.

I've worked in big name firms before and I've literally seen what you're talking about first hand.

I'm not even rich myself, but I work around a lot of rich people, and I can say everything Veeky Forums believes about women goes straight out the window when around high status rich men.

To top it all off, I've noticed absolutely zero difference in the amount of attention these wealthy high status men get when referring to their looks. I see older 5'2 Chinese rich men surrounded and receiving the same exact attention as the younger more vibrant taller rich guys get.

Nothing makes a womans vagina more wet than a high status man with great wealth.

Doesn't matter, the fact that they'll even be interested enough to go to the point means the looks did the job. The sexual attraction will always be there, if they get dis-interested later on then it stops being because of aesthetics and more because of social, emotional and mental situations, which i hope you're smart enough to realize it has nothing to do with a mans look

I guess our ethics are different, pussy is pussy, sex is not a big deal. My bitch ass mom left my dad beause he was from the heavy coke era, back before you even needed a series 6 to trade. I cant blame her, but she totally forgot about me. Guess I have been conditioned to not give a flying fuck about women, or worse, the men that are dumb enough to stay with one their whole lives

Ah. I see. Mr. Millionaire here isn't charismatic or handsome, so he promises the bitches who work for him (lololol) money or advancement so they'll sleep with him. He thinks because he's gone through two or so girls a year in the decade he's been there that it's all the proof he needs he's a real pussy slayer and that all the other women would totally suck his cock, too.

except its not natural attraction, its a series of calculated approaches in order to leech off the wealth.

It's not a series of calculated approaches.....it basic biology. Women are attracted to resources, have been for tens of thousands of years.

You have the mindset of a fucking woman yourself bro, you probably get star-struck anytime you see an expensive car.

Thanks man, yeah I can tell by how you speak that you know the truth. Status>looks by FAR when it comes to men.

The only reason these loser wont stop shit replying is because it goes against their sad little ego protection device that they can
>lift and get fit enought to get laid

Like sure, if you work out really hared and get ripped you might get a lay or two from your body a year.. if that

Status, that shit isnt covered up by a hoodie in the winter, it isnt something that goes away during a bulk, it isnt something that decreases with age,
I am sorry guys, I am not advocating you dont lift but stop beleiving this fairy tale that you are going to get aesthetic and have 10 out of 10 pussy for life.. its just not true


Work on you finances, learn about investing, get somewhere nigga

I want to become the most aesthetic me i can be. i already have the dedication as i go to the gym twice a day 4 days a week and im on my third month, but how do i train for aesthetics? i already know the main muscle groups and isolation training i need to do, but i still need to lift heavy right? pls no bulli, we all started somewhere

Don't you feel any small semblance of regret that you're wasting your life on pleasures of the flesh when you should be nurturing your mind and soul instead? As in a healthy relationship with a woman?

Well I'm sorry that things turned out that way for your family, but you really can't keep going on like this, lashing out your repressed feelings on the matter on other people in the form of casual sex is 101 sociopathic behavior, not to mention all the generalization and marginalization of women's behavior you've made here.

Yep. As you said, the looks fade, even for us guys.

These guys in their late teens, early 20s here.. They honestly think men are immune to aging or some shit. They don't realize how much harder it is going to be for them to maintain aesthetics going into their 30s, 40s, etc.

They surround themselves with people like themselves (low status, poor), therefore cannot comprehend what we're even discussing here. They've just never experienced what we're talking about, they have no fucking idea. They're in for 1 big fucking shock when reality hits them.

I guess if all these resources were attached to a table lamp, they'd start humping it with vigor, huh? It's the resources that matter for sexual attraction, after all!! That table lamp has money!

if you are trolling and pretending to be the beta liberal faggot you sound like 10 out of 10 barely could tell

............................was this your final post of defeat?

Thanks for sparing me my delusions. I thought I was guaranteed 10/10 pussy for life.