Was original Jack3d and Mesomorph really that good? People describe it like it was like amphetamine...

>civilised world
More like Gains goblins world

can't get caked in freezer. Its is there for months. It cakes in warm.

QUESTION

Is 1,3dmaa familiar to Ritalin? Ritalin is methylfenidate (amphetamine) and I take it now and then before workout I can go for hours

Is it comparable?

it was amazing. i remember when i first started going to gym on a weekend, i'd take three scoops of jack3d. this coincided with when i started doing hard drugs. the pills and coke were like jack3d only stronger

when I first started lifting I took it, and because it was legal i just assumed it was safe

would regularly take twice the recommended dose, then go into the gym and hit personal bests with horrendous form

probably the reason my shoulders are fucked

Jack3d was the best thing I ever took. No other pre workout works as good. Best pumps i ever got too. Wish they bring the original back

forgot to mention, would get back from the gym and sometimes LITERALLY spend 6 hours looking at porn and fapping

Ritalin is totally different than amphetamine dumbass, the only similarity is they are both stimulants.

would DMAA help me get motivated to lift when am depressed as fuck?

Are u ok m8 ? Ritalin is literally an amphetamine

I remember those hours long fap sessions too. Its one of the reason i stopped taking preworkout.

Are they really selling it back in USA?

desu it doesn't live up to the hype.

>methylphenidate is amphetamine
wat

Can you get 1,3 DMAA online anymore? If I can get shit like DNP online then I feel like this shouldn't be that hard. Everything I've heard is that jacked doesn't have DMAA anymore so it's just misusing the label to take advantage of the old fame, but I couldn't find any proof one way or another. The places that sell the product intentionally obfuscate the matter so I can't tell what the fuck they are selling.

I've tried numerous pre-workouts and don't get that 'feeling' of invincibility or whatever. In fact, I don't notice a god damn thing.

Is this shit that good?

Yeah you can get the raw powder but you have you take it in microdoses which is extremely hard to measure out

Fuck, I'm surprised somebody hasn't taken to capping or cutting it to the proper dose for us. I don't want to OD on that shit.

no, they weren't all that. I remember I had to do like 3 scoops of jack3d to feel it. I did have one that got my heart racing, muscle marinade, but it tasted shit. this was all 2010-2012

First time I took OG Jack3d, it was at around 3pm and with the recommended dosage. Couldn't go to sleep until 3am. There will probably never be anything better

It's sad user

There's a preworkout called Jack'd Up that says it contains 1,3 DMAA.

Anybody have any experience with it? I assume it's a Jack3d rip off, but if it works I may try it.

Kanker marktplaatsp

haha yeah

Bro niet kopen man neem gewoon koppen espresso pre-workout die DMAA verkankert je brein chemistrie en geeft hoge bloeddruk

I can't imagine that DMAA is that bad for you. I mean I haven't researched it at all so I could be wrong, but as much as I love coffee I would be a fan of something legal that's stronger than caffeine.

Good lookin' out though.

>would get back from the gym and sometimes LITERALLY spend 6 hours looking at porn and fapping

i do this without DMAA.

Andere user mongool hier, ik zag net een Jack3d pre workout, er staat niks over dmaa, is dit veilig? Body-supplies dot nl. Maar het bedrijf heet usp labs.

>Are u ok m8 ? Ritalin is literally an amphetamine

fact.

Ja man die jack3d van bodyfit en andere NL w3bsites zijn de "nieuwe" versies en zijn gewoon legit maar dan zonder dmaa erin

Eigenlijk gewoon caffeinepoeder en suiker

Ik ben ^^^^ je kan het proberen gaf hele goed pomp en energie

Maar na een tijdje kreeg ik dikke puisten op mn rug ervan , ik had die jack3d zonder dmaa fruitpunch smaak

Ben allang gestopt neem al 2 jaar kop koffie voor trainen werkt ook goed

Ok thanks, weet ik in ieder geval dat ik die niet moet hebben. Ik haal wel gewoon een goedkoop potje bij de plaatselijke sportschool.

Could you guys take your black speech to /int/ or wherever?

Ja, een maat van me heeft nu z'n hele rug en schouders vol met puisten.. Hij gebruikt ook een pre workout met fruitpunch smaak.

No, go fuck yourself.

Dat is klote man, ik merkte ZEKER dat het kwam van die jack3d fruitpunch.. Mn rug was altijd schoon en moment dat ik aan die shit begon kwam het...

Blijkbaar zit er iets in wat je lichaam niet accepteert .. Waarom stopt je maat niet? Ik gaf mn potje half-vol weg aan een vriend lol fuck die shit

ok, brb.

Omdat hij waar voor zijn geld wilt lol. Maar nee, hoelang train je al?

Sinds 2012.. 4 jaar nu. Jij? Waar woon je

Sinds 2014, dorpje vlakbij Alkmaar. Heb je tips over test gebruik?

Hoe kom je erbij dat ik test gebruik
Maar serieus ik wil test-deca cyclen ben nu nog natty

Vind je niet dat je nog nieuw bent voor test? 2 jaar is niks nog man

Anyways test is 250 tot 500mg in de week voor 12 weken met 4 weken nakuur nolvadex

>not just taking Adderall before you lift

Do you want to make it bros?

Haha omdat ik verwacht dat iedereen na een aantal jaar meer wilt. Ik ben zelf nu ook veel aangekomen qua spier in die 2 jaar met een heel zwaar en strict dieet. 1.88m, 96 kg, 12%. Ik werd aangesproken door een test gebruiker die vroeg of ik interesse had.

Ik zoek een legit test source man al die dealers hebben shitty genesis UGL

Heb jij een pharma source?

Yes sir used 3 tubs before moving on. Check out gen one old jack as well. Good luck senpai.

Nee, heb ik niet. Maar de dealer die ik ken is populair onder de bodybuilders in onze sportschool. Dus ik verwacht wel wat goed spul.

Yeah I did this after partying on Amphetamin back then
It was the shit

I can't eat on Adderall

Kom in de neder draad heb er net een ge opend

>can't get adderall legally

I WISH I COULD

>People describe it like it was like amphetamine.
I don't know about Jack3d but the reason Craze was banned in EU was that they found what was basically a "designer drug" version of amphetamine in it. It was speed with a small little twist so it technically wasn't speed until that little twist got flagged and banned.

>Cohen said researchers informed the FDA in May about finding the new chemical compound in Craze. The team found the compound — N,alpha-diethylphenylethylamine — has a structure similar to methamphetamine, a powerful, highly addictive, illegal stimulant drug.
>the compound found in Craze was the same as that found in a crystalline powder seized by narcotics agents in December 2011 as a suspected illicit designer drug. In that case the powder was found in an unclaimed lost package shipped from Vietnam to South Korea, according to an earlier journal article published by the team in late 2012. "It appeared that the recipient of this article sought to abuse this chemical in the same way as amphetamines. There is a possibility that this chemical will be widely abused for recreational use in the near future,"
usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/14/tests-of-supplements-craze-and-detonate-find-methamphetamine-like-compound/2968041/

that shit worked tho

No way. So should i stop using preworkouts altogether? I didn't know they had meth-like compounds

well I mean it was banned in 2012 and the craze v2 they sell now isn't nearly as effective so idk probably not

Dmaa is the shit
Just took it with mushrooms at a rave last night
Felt like molly, pretty tight /10

I bought DMAA 2 years ago from nutrivitashop( ) com. I would advise to buy a micro scale, this shit is intense. Im an Amerifat tho, not sure if they ship internationally.

Fucking degenerate

>He is on Veeky Forums
>Calling other people degenerate for consuming substances.

Thanks for the laugh.

not him but I fap to trannies and call people who go outside on fridays degenerates. it's all relative

Ephedrine caffine dmaa stackers are pretty popular where I am

just get pic related
>1,3 DMAA
How does nobody mention this yet?
>go to aps nutrition . com and buy it
youre welcome

Personally i reccomend fluoroamphetamines 4FA/2FA or a-pvp for my preworkouts. If you can manage to find dnp and the like you shouldnt have trouble finding these compounds. Invest in a milligram scale though.

heres the link , the y got a buy one get one 50% off right now
a1supplements.com/aps-nutrition-mesomorph

Why not just take aloe dose adderral?

I live in USA and the local mom and pop store sells 1,3 DMAA stuff for cheap

Amphetamines- Releasing Agents, like amphetamine, meth, 2-fma, MDMA etc.

Methylphenidate- Reuptake inhibitiors like Ritalin, cocaine, mdpv, a-pvp etc.

Completely different pharmacology(reuptake inhibitors make me depressed and jittery where releasing agents like adderall or meth dont have the side effects or crash), and thus different affects. What they share in common are they are both dopaminergic stimulants. That's about it.

Google releasing agents, and re-uptake inhibitors to get a feel for how they are different.

"Note: Manufacturers continually change product specifications. While we try our best to keep product descriptions up to date, they do not necessarily reflect the latest information available from the manufacturer. We are not responsible for incorrect or outdated product descriptions and/or images."
Under a photo of their 'version 2' This means they already updated their ingredients, but will continues selling it under the assumption that you are getting the old one. not a scam, but shady

I remember the good days of mdpv and a-pvp I brought a gram to high school giving lines out to everyone for free one time I jacked off till my dick skin peeled off from the friction and bled.

experienced jack3d and craze, feels good man

also dont know if anyone can remember but the purple craze was significantly stronger than the others, the ingredients were supposedly exactly the same, ds (was that the name of the producers of the product?) publicly said it was nonsense and that all flavors had the same effect

experienced it myself, purple was the first one i tried, when it ran out i tried a different flavor and it fucking sucked

You do know plenty of pre workouts right now have dmaa in it right? God if rage, the Blackstone labs dust, mesomorph, the new super pump has a ridiculous amount in it too

Get it off of eBay, that's where I got the dmaa version.

Dmaa is still legal to buy bulk in the US. Supp companies just can't use it in their propietary blends anymore because of health concerns. I bought 10 grams from some site a few weeks ago. Like super caffeine. No euphoria though so you can't get high. Hence why it's legal.

absolutely

you'd have an epic workout, come home and tidy your house

you might forget to eat though

yes except I never tried other than purple because I heard the rumors

All forms of pvp give people ridiculous high levels of vasoconstriction I have seen people's fingers starting to "die" like white thick ass callouses and weird shit in their finger tips I would advise against pvp

Yet plenty of companies still use it...

Ah

So coke basicly KEEPS the water in the bottle

And AMPHETAMINES basicly ADD water to the bottle

Can I see it this way?

same here

Bitch

Coke keeps the water in the bottle while more water starts surrounding it too so when the bottle starts leaking more water is ready to come in.

Yea that's how I think of it

>2009
>be using picrelated
>Jack3D come out
>mfw Jack3D was absolute garbage compared to picrelated. I gave it to a friend

a1supplements.com/aps-nutrition-mesomorph
This the stuff?

Take ephedrine an hour before you take preworkout

Feel like a fucking machine

Heh, I threw away half of tube of original Craze, because it got bad after few months. Didn't keep it in a fridge tho.

Speaking of Pres anyone try Rich Paninis 5150

Saw this mentioned, worth getting or no?

a1supplements.com/hi-tech-pharmaceuticals-jack-d-up

a dying fucking machine

Mesomorph, god of rage and dust extreme by black stone labs all have dmaa, and are all better then jacked up