Are there any developed countries that have chastity standards of third-world countries like those in West and South...

Nah man, that can't be, I've spoken to Japanese, Koreans, Singaporeans, and they all say that they start having sex at least by the time they're in college. I was surprised about Singapore, but even in Singapore it seems to be the case. Only China is prudish in the Far East. The average age of virginity loss in Western countries is about 17. In Japan, Korea and Singapore it would lie between 18 and 21. Singapore and Korea are more prudish than Japan, but no way nearly as prudish as South and West Asia where sex before marriage is not to be done at all costs.

>Nah man, that can't be, I've spoken to Japanese, Koreans, Singaporeans
Anecdotal evidence, user.
I know that this is 2017 and apparently anecdotal evidence now counts as the best kind of scientific knowledge in politically correct subjects, but this is Veeky Forums, so we can keep the methods of knowledge of the past.

Nah man that can't be, they make less babies than Germans. And Germans only have children through fully hatched Kinder eggs

>68% of Japanese aged 18-19 are virgins
Yeah and these men remain virgin forever, they're called herbivore men, because they simply cannot get girls, not because society looks down upon sex before marriage. Those who DO have sex start doing it when they're 18-19 years old.

>It’s a weeaboo episode

Nips start humping each other in high school. Workload and lack of opportunity is why they stop as adults.

I imagine that about 50% of the Japanese population is female, so it is mathematically impossible for the 68% of those that are virgins to be "herbivore men"

Statistics seem to disagree.

Who should I trust? Official statistics or edgy idiots on Veeky Forums who use the word weeaboo?

[citation needed]

Dude, it's I that translated the graph and posted here. I'm surprised. And yeah, Japanese people don't give a fuck about chastity traditionally. They are just slowly losing interest in intercourse lately.

dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3796378/Four-10-Japanese-virgins-poll.html

>The National Institute of Population and Social Security Research quizzed more than 5,000 singletons aged 18 to 34 about their lives between the sheets.
>It found that 42 percent of men and 44 percent of women had never had sex.

That is people aged 18 to 34.

>In a 2010 survey by the same government body, 68 percent of Japanese 18-19 year olds said they were virgins

So, should I trust Japan's National Institute of Population and Social Security Research or should I trust some random idiot on Veeky Forums who uses the word weeaboo to be edgy? That's a hard decision, I guess.

Okay, you're right, but all in all, I just want to say that I've been to these countries, and I know there is a difference. They're probably midway between the West and my country in terms of chastity. The idea that Japs don't have sex in high school is completely false, it's just that people who don't lose their virginity as fast as possible don't have an inferiority complex like in /r9k/ and marks and stuff are valued much more to get cool boy points.

>The idea that Japs don't have sex in high school is completely false

In a 2010 survey by the same government body, 68 percent of Japanese 18-19 year olds said they were virgins

Do you think the average Japanese man would like to marry a huge slut?

I’m reminded of an anecdote of a western traveler in japan before sakoku. He was staying with a family that casually offered him one of their servant girls to use for sex. He was shocked and they apologized by offering him a BOY to fuck instead.

>He thinks it’s edgy to call people weebs

Lmao

You don't have to marry a slut to have a few bastards along the way.

Preferably not, but Japanese people are MUCH more tolerant of infidelity and lack of chastity than the Chinese and even the Westerners. It’s just seen as sex. Not much emotion attached.

But it DOES happen. 30 percent of those kids had sex when they were about 17-18. That itself would be pretty mind-boggling to me before I discovered how prevalent sex before marriage was in first world countries. Compare this to countries where sex before marriage is absolutely forbidden.

pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/14/french-more-accepting-of-infidelity-than-people-in-other-countries/

Depends on the Western country. The majority of French people think people having affairs is morally acceptable. And Japan seems to be more against infidelity than Germany, Italy and Spain. But less so than Britain and the US.

Kind of unrelated.

Looking at your posts, you are from South Asia, right? Don't take the sexual morals of Western countries as a positive example. It is not because they are rich that everything they do is right. Since the 1960's, Western countries started to turn to hedonism. This is not healthy physically or psychologically.

Aren't virginity loss age studies based on anecdotal evidence?

No.

They only poll a handful of people, most of whom aren't even telling the truth. By the way, you know how old that girl in the OP picture is?

The poll in that article involved 5,000 people. That's not anecdotal evidence.

I don't know, man. "I got laid at 19" or "I haven't had sex" don't seem any less anecdotal when answered in regards to a study on the subject as opposed to saying those things to a friend.

Btw, and are my only posts.

Yeah, this. And if the so called huge slut is hot enough, most of Japanese men would marry her. In Japan noble people and politician often married courtesan or hostess bar girl and nobody makes a fuss. Before Meiji era, female chastity is totally alien idea to Japanese people.

You don't know what anecdotal evidence means.

If I say, "After starting smoking, I lost my appetite", it is anecdotal evidence. If I say "My friend started smoking and she lost her appetite", it is also anecdotal evidence.

If I poll a representative sample of 2,000 smokers and it turns out that 80% of them said they lost their appetite after smoking, this is not anecdotal evidence.

>it occurs as a result of the dominant culture on Earth exporting sexual depravity as a human right.

More like everyone knows that human beings are perverts by nature, and instead of creating an authoritarian social structure we instead let people do as they please.

Contrary to what religious, or NatSoc retards like you think, the existence of freedom is actually a prerequisite of moral behavior.

see this

All I was looking for was an example of a developed country where people stay virgin until marriage. How come all of the countries that do this are backward shitholes?

>that have chastity standards of third-world countries
Oh my sweet summer child...

Morals (and civilization, from a certain point of view) are in parts about making so you do not turn into an animal that doesn't control your desires and let them dominate you.

>do as they please.
Is basically mindless hedonism. This is not a good way of life.

Philippines, Brazil, Latin-America, African and Carribean nations don't count. I'm talking about South and West Asia only. And Indonesia, Malaysia and stuff.

MY SWEET, SWEET SUMMER CHILD...

Yeah, we are like that as a consequence of sexual starvation.

>Upper class people in third-world countries still continue be very chaste, so I guess...
Arab Nobles are literally the first amongst their people to not give a shit about conservative sexual mores.

Upper class people as in white collar class/educated class. And it applies to most of those Arab elites as well. That picture is the exception and not the rule, or at least they pretend to keep it that way.

>Upper class people as in white collar class/educated class. And it applies to most of those Arab elites as well. That picture is the exception and not the rule, or at least they pretend to keep it that way.
Someone has never been to the gulf I guess.

You have no idea what yiu are talking about

No, maybe I'm wrong. But it is true that educated people are no less chaste than blue collar people in such countries. I know because I'm one of these people. In fact their average age of virginity loss should be higher among the wealthy because poorer people tend to get married at a young age.

>Upper class people as in middle class people

You are confusing us user

Yeah well those "middle class" is still like the top 3 percent of my country, do I have a habit of saying "upper class".

I'm Christian and Iive in a Christian country.

My impression of rich, but not royal/billionaire people (I never met a royal/billionaire) from your region is that they are very chaste and pious men. Also very good people.

>Is basically mindless hedonism. This is not a good way of life.

Doesn't matter, because what other people do, especially sexually, is literally none of your business, however much you think it is "degenerate".

How does the United States support sexual depravity?

Why do you think so?

Porn, clothing, lifestyle.

Take a Sitcom which is not very controversial such as "Friends". What kind of sexual behavior is shown as good?

>More like everyone knows that human beings are perverts by nature
And you think this is a good thing? The most natural quality of the human species is to go against their own "nature".

>it occurs as a result of the dominant culture on Earth exporting sexual depravity as a human right.
*as an industry

Why do you think it is your business?

Why is it not?

>And you think this is a good thing?

It's not a matter of good or bad. It's a matter of what kind of behavior society should legitimately try to control.

Because you shouldn't have power over people's sexual life.

Why not?

> The most natural quality of the human species is to go against their own "nature"

That's deep, my dude.

In your opinion, society should not disincentive self-destructive behavior?

More do than your naive kind of liberalism.

Because it's none of your business.

You still didn't explain why.

I mean, you said the same thing twice.

Since when do people have to justify their *non-intervention* into people's lives?

You're the one who wants to control peoples' sexual behavior, because it is "mindless hedonism", so explain why, or fuck off back to your hugbox called /pol/.

Not that user but...

1. You don't have the power to enforce your beliefs. (Might makes right, after all.)
2. Even if you did, I could still disagree with you and act accordingly.
3. Sex specifically is a very intimate act. Shoving your unwanted nose into it is rude as hell.
4. I believe different things than you. What you call "debauchery" I might call "a pleasant night with a friend."
5. You are fully entitled to an opinion. You are fully entitled to communicate your opinion. I am NOT, in any way shape or form, required to listen to or heed your opinion.
6. Even if you feel or know that you are 100% in the right, I am not required to care.
7a. Society changes. Slavery was once acceptable, now it is not. Whether you like it or not is largely irrelevant.
7b. If you don't like the way society is going, you are entitled - and in fact encouraged - to try and change its direction. You may or may not succeed.
8. You and me... we are all imperfect humans. We don't know everything. To assume your world-view is the best is grossly arrogant.

>Since when do people have to justify their *non-intervention* into people's lives?
No one asked you to justify your "non-intervention". What is being asked is why others should not be "interventionist".

And aren't you the one trying to create a hug box here?

>South Asia?
people here consume porn like soda.

I'm not the quoted, and I was being honest with my statement.

>What is being asked is why others should not be "interventionist".

Because you have zero right to command other people how to live their lives, and the desire you have to do so says something about your psychology.

Not him but why aren't you asking him to justify his non-intervention?

So that's how they look without the stupid ninja outfit? muslim faggots like to miss the good things on life apparently.

Finally someone who can make an argument. Frankly, I think promiscuity is a bad thing, but that the best cure to promiscuity is a good education rather than promiscuity laws.

It is just that the other user looked so stupid that I thought it would be interesting to argue in favor of that (even if at first it seems that the other user actually was against even criticism of promiscuous behavior).

You look to be smarter than that other one, so I will for the best of my ability defend anti-promiscuity laws, even if I don't think they are the best option.

Start:

It is not because different people have different views on what is the best life that every view is equally right. Some acts are worse than others and will lead to worse and unhappier people.
This is the case of sexual hedonism. Sexual hedonism is linked with worse psychological health (young adults who have casual sex have much larger rates of depression and drug abuse), broken families and in consequence worse parenting. So, sexual hedonism makes people unhappier and worse citizens (since they end up cheating, breaking their families and doing bad stuff in order to satisfy their desires).

If left by themselves, a large percentage of the population will adopt self-harming behavior that will make them unhappier and worse citizens, they are not ready for freedom. They need something to guide them so that they don't harm themselves and society.

Creating laws against those behaviors have the added benefit that it will make them less common. According to psychological research, people are more likely to do something if others are doing it. This can improve culture.

I'm The argument against anti-promiscuity laws is that... They wouldn't work and that education would make people better.

You can't be virtuous because you are forced to be without knowing why. You can only be virtuous if you know why you are being virtuous and you choose to be virtuous by your own will.

I agree: Not every view is correct. Not everyone knows what is best for them.
And may I just say, you are a gentleman and a scholar, sir.

I agree with . If I may add to him, we have seen throughout history that taking "promiscuous freedoms" away from people tends to result poorly. The American 20's, for example, when alcohol was outlawed. Drunkenness was ruled unethical, so we outlawed it (there were other factors of course, but the movement was lead by pietistic Protestants). The backlash resulted in murders (such as the Valentines Day Massacre), rampant crime, and a populace who largely ignored the new law. It did reduce alcohol consumption half for a while, but at what cost?
Prostitution is called the world's oldest profession. It's illegal in the U.S. and seen by many as being, if not unethical, then at least unsavory. Yet it thrives to this day.
The only way to enforce a law against sexual promiscuity would be to implement extreme measures - ones that would compromise the god-given right of individual privacy. And, in the eyes of the people, a law is only as valid as it is enforced.

>citing daily mail

JUST

>those nip female stats
this makes me hard

This. Fuck JEWSA desu