Veeky Forums, for the love of shit, please stop posting manlet threads for a few moments and listen to me...

Veeky Forums, for the love of shit, please stop posting manlet threads for a few moments and listen to me. I need your help. This is about to drive me mad and I am tired of living like this. If there is a medfag out there, please, please help me. If you aren't generally knowledgeable about gastrointestinal health issues you don't need to read all of this mess.

I have been lifting, and bulking, since two years. For over a year now, I have been having absurd bowel movements. The most annoying part of it is urgency. I literally can not hold my shit in for more than 40 minutes or so. Stress only makes everything worse; whenever I am in a situation I do not have access to a toilet, I feel the urge to poo. Stuck in the traffic? I feel my bowels start to work. In an exam? My bowels start to work. I might go hungry for a day, and yet, I somehow manage to produce poo if I am ever in a situation I can't use the toilet. Before you ask, no, I don't have anal sex.

This is not all of it, however. I fart all the time. I heard that a normal person farts like 15 times a day; I fart like 40 times. While a normal person shits once a day, I shit like 2 to 3 times; now of course this is expected since I am bulking, but still, the shits are not normal. I also have nasty shits. They are always loose and greasy, and when I look in the water, sometimes I can hardly see the shit because of how murky the water is. I rarely have dark brown shits anymore, they are all pale, the color of coffee with milk; at some point they often floated.

I find pieces of the foods I eat in them. I have a bidet attaced to my toilet and when I use it, the shit goes away without me needing to flush. Half the time I don't feel completely empty after I take a shit. I sometimes do feel abdominal pain, but more often I simply feel irritated. I can feel my bowels getting irritated. Sometimes I do have less loose shits, and when I leave them in the water for like 15 minutes, it seems to me that their color leeches out into the water, as if they are releasing some sort of an auburn dye; what is this, occult blood?

Bulking does make everything worse. Indeed, I do get better when I eat like a real human bean. But still, I never feel entirely normal. Overall my diet is pretty clean, with lots of vegetables and fruits; I always hit my fibre RDI. Fibre only seems to make everything worse. I also started having trouble gaining weight recently.

So, this is particularly worrying for me because my father had ulcerative colitis. Got his large instestines removed. We finally saw a doctor after I ended up shitting bright blood. A sigmoidoscopy was performed and they found no signs of any irritable bowel disease; turned out I have hemorrhoids. I do not recall shitting blood again, but everything else got worse overall, so I saw the doctor again. I stopped eating at a caloric excess a week or two before seeing her, and my symptoms ended up getting better, almost normal. They performed a CT scan on me, and found nothing wrong with my entire gastrointestinal tract. The moment I started bulking again, I started having the symptoms again. But now, I do not function normally even when I stop eating so much.

What the fuck is wrong with me? I would say IBS, but this doesn't sound like IBS either. If it is IBS, what the fuck do I do? I can't live like this. My whole life revolves around my ass now.

But I have a bigger fear. What if I actually do have an inflammatory bowel disease—particularly Crohn's—and it just happened to be in remission back when they performed the CT? Could it possibly have went unnoticed?

Is it possible to lift with IBS or IBD? Please respond. I want off of this ride. Please, I just want to shit like a normal person again.

If you told the specialist all this shit (hehe) then listen to them, not Veeky Forums

Stop consuming Dairy and coffee

Stop bulking.

dont tell me it doesnt feel good shitting anyway?

i love to shit even though recently my shits have became worse, simillar to yours. I started using psylium husks (30g a day) and I must say even after day of eating them my shits are more connected and sausagelike even though they are still far from perfect shits.

i always understood red blood means ok dark red means scary.
scary as not hemeroids but something worse

>fellow roider.. hemeroider.

I did. This is what I am asking:

>What if I actually do have an inflammatory bowel disease—particularly Crohn's—and it just happened to be in remission back when they performed the CT? Could it possibly have went unnoticed?

I consume neither.

It does seem to soften the whole issue but doesn't get rid of it.

More fibre simply seems to make everything worse for me. And no, it doesn't feel good. It is very messy for me, and sometimes ı don't feel relieved.

do you shit once only per sitting down? try covering your anal hole with toilet paper wiping finger (cant believe im writing this), and press an inch inside, when I do that for few secs i toss out most of the shit. feel much better then

It's okay little buddy
>didn't even read

Do you have western european ancestry? It sounds kind of like the pancreatic issues of CF

It takes me at least 20 minutes to shit properly.

I don't cough, nor do I have jaundice. Also they could view all of my abdominal organs during the CT scan and found nothing wrong with my pancreas.

I don't know about my ancestry, but I am sure it is not Western European.

You sure sound desperate BUT didn't even go to a fucking doctor and instead decided to ask this super serious question on trolling and baiting HQ????

Certain mutations of CF can express itself as only pancreatic symptoms, but the structure of the pancreas doesn't change as much as the functioning does, in that the production of digestive enzymes gets fucked up, leading to poorer digestion of food, especially fats (which is where the greasy stools come from).

Could be coelic disease, could be lactose intolerance, could be crohns, could be cystic fibrosis, any number of things user.

Your doc sounds fucking useless. It's the small intestine they should be checking out if it's a malabsorption issue.

I'd check coelic disease first and foremost user. Basically they need a biopsy and a blood test.

Do you supplement ZMA or magnesium? It can cause diarrhea.

are you bulking with protein because protein makes your brains fall out your anus when taken in well absurd excess amounts

ontop of other factors like stress whaich can literaaly do anything

have you tried probiotics / chewing your food?
fresh fruit and more fiber lots of fiber.

also besure you're not drinking thinks that are incendentally diauretic for your bulk like apple anything because apples can give you gas, and applejuice can make you pee out your butthole thats a littel well known fact though.

bascially try eating an orange for lunch.

Pls read OP.
It's a serious issue if you're shitting your food out constantly, it can result in permanent damage to your intestinal cell lining.

I did go to a doctor faggot, did you even read the whole thing?

I am 20 man, pretty sure CF would have presented itself at a younger age, no? Besides the doctor did talk about how the whole thing might be a pancreas issue, I doubt she wouldn't have checked it for that. I had blood tests done and everything. How would they have checked for CF if not with a CT?

>could be crohns,

This doesn't answer my question though.

>Your doc sounds fucking useless.

I would think so too, because she never takes me seriously. But she is a renowned professor and also had a huge part in my father's recovery from severe UC.

>It's the small intestine they should be checking out if it's a malabsorption issue.

They did do that. A CT scan checks your entire abdomen, from the bladder all the way to the bottom of the lungs.

>I'd check coelic disease first and foremost user.

Stopping gluten consumption doesn't seem to have any effects.

No.

0,8 grams per pound.

>have you tried probiotics / chewing your food?

No, and I am not willing to risk making everything worse with something like probiotics.

>fresh fruit and more fiber lots of fiber.

Yes. Fibre just makes everything worse. I told you, this sounds so much like my father's situation but apparently no, I have fuck all.

Have they tested you for Helicobacter Pylori and other bacteria and parasites etc?

You just have a shitty body. Sorry bro

A CT is an x-ray done a few times in different directions, it might be able to make out the barest image of inflammation of the bowels, but it's completely unreliable as a means of diagnosis.

As for gluten, it's easy enough for blood tests to determine whether your immune system is responding to it, rather than you conducting tests on yourself over a few weeks without knowing for sure.

As for crohns, I can't diagnose or offer insight, it can only be tested for.

Go to any non-retarded GP, say the magic keywords:
Loose, fatty stools
Undigested food
Constant urge to defecate (this is due to fatty stools)
Family history of small intestine issues
Say you've had a colonoscopy and a CT scan and the results were inconclusive.

The GP will then consult their online handbook and figure out they need to take blood tests, sweat tests and saliva tests to eliminate a whole host of potential conditions.

>A CT is an x-ray done a few times in different directions, it might be able to make out the barest image of inflammation of the bowels, but it's completely unreliable as a means of diagnosis.

Are you sure we are talking about the same thing? They made me drink this drugged water that glew white inside me, and ended up creating 3D images of my intestines and everything. I have the reports with me. Whoever checked them wrote "no sign of pathology in the pancreas/small intestines/whatever" on the reports. Hell, isn't this stuff used to diagnose cancer?

Besides, wouldn't that suffice? If there is no inflammation in the bowels, there is no inflammatory bowel disease. What I am asking here is if they couldn't have seen the signs of inflammation while the disease is in a state of remission.

>Family history of small intestine issues

My father had UC. No small intestine issues.

>colonoscopy

Sigmoidoscopy. They only checked the ending parts of the bowels.


I don't know but they did test my shit.

Something like the early stages of coelic or an instance of crohns flaring up wouldn't show up on the CT. All you can see is the size of the intestines. Low level inflammation that occurs and vanishes might not appear when it's not acting up. A blood test is far more conclusive.

Sigmoidoscopy is even less comprehensive. It shows nothing.

Ugh... Really? I mean, even Google tells me that CT is used to diagnose Crohn's.

>Computed tomography (CT) enterography uses special x-ray equipment and an injection of contrast material after the ingestion of liquid to produce detailed images of the small intestine and structures within the abdomen and pelvis. It’s often used to identify and locate problems within the bowel, such as inflammation, bleeding, obstructions and Crohn’s disease.

Forgot to add that I had an ESR test done, and it turned out pretty low at 4.

>Sigmoidoscopy is even less comprehensive. It shows nothing.

They did this one back when I shat bright red blood.

>pretty sure CF would have presented itself at a younger age, no?
Not necessarily. Depending on the severity of symptoms throughout life, some people don't get tested for years. My doc treats a woman diagnosed in her 40's.

>Besides the doctor did talk about how the whole thing might be a pancreas issue, I doubt she wouldn't have checked it for that. I had blood tests done and everything. How would they have checked for CF if not with a CT?
They check for CF with either genetic or sweat testing. A CT won't show anything unless you're in mid stage fibrosis of the pancreas, which you'd have more severe symptoms if you were

Really, CT scans are not the gold standard, they only pick it up if it's really bad.

ESR is very non-specific, it's just a test to see if there's inflammation at any point in your body (Kinda useless for a weight lifter intentionally damaging muscle tissue)

I am 100% sure I didn't show such symptoms until the last year, though. Would it simply start showing up after 19?

>They check for CF with either genetic or sweat testing. A CT won't show anything unless you're in mid stage fibrosis of the pancreas, which you'd have more severe symptoms if you were

Not even the blood tests? They had plenty done on me and found nothing. The inflammaton marker was particularly low. My sweat doesn't taste salty either.

>The prognosis for cystic fibrosis has improved due to earlier diagnosis through screening and better treatment and access to health care. In 1959, the median age of survival of children with CF in the United States was six months.[99] In 2010, survival is estimated to be 37 years for women and 40 for men.[100] In Canada, median survival increased from 24 years in 1982 to 47.7 in 2007.[101]

Blergh. user, I am starting to take you seriously, do you really think I have such a disorder? Seems unlikely to me that I wouldn't have noticed it for 20 years.

>ESR is very non-specific, it's just a test to see if there's inflammation at any point in your body (Kinda useless for a weight lifter intentionally damaging muscle tissue)

But that is what Crohn's is? Inflammation of the bowel, which happens to be located in my body. My inflammation markers would be particularly high, not particularly low, if I had inflammatory bowel disease no? Sorry if I am retarded but, well.

Blood tests would only indicate infection or severity of inflammation. Again, if you've had fairly light symptoms throughout your life, then inflammation could be expected to be minimal. The thing is CF has several different mutstions and widely differing levels of severity. It's just that the most common mutation (which accounts for like 90% of cases) has a similar symptom expression. It's the less severe symptoms/mutstions that often don't get diagnosed until later.

Grow taller.

Crohns ebbs and flows in some people. There would be less inflammation in the times where it's not flaring up.

Explain yourself properly on your next appointment. GP's LOVE to brush off issues if the symptoms aren't manifesting themselves right in front of them. It's up to you to insist that they get off their asses and do what you are paying them for.
So far they've skirted around proper diagnostic procedures in favour of easier tests.

If your car broke down occasionally and you took it to a mechanic, and they glanced at it under the hood and said it was running fine, would you take them for their word on it?

Constant gastric distress isn't normal.

...

I am pretty sure that I didn't have any symptoms at all until a year ago, especially gastrointestinal symptoms. My sweat doesn't taste salty either.

>then inflammation could be expected to be minimal.

I am looking this stuff up and CF patients tend to have and ESR of 16. Mine is 4.

Stop eating meat and dairy and coffee.

If cutting out meat is to hard try cutting out red and processed meat.

DRINK MORE WATER

>Crohns ebbs and flows in some people. There would be less inflammation in the times where it's not flaring up.

Yep, that's what I am asking. Less? Or none? Would inflammation markers be completely normal(or even low) when it is not flaring, or be just slightly raised? Would they be particularly low? Would there be no sign of the disease once it is in remission, or show just a little.

>GP's LOVE to brush off issues if the symptoms aren't manifesting themselves right in front of them.

I don't know user. My father suffered complications after the surgery for years, before he found this doctor, and his life is pretty much normal now.

Why would this be b8?

What kinds of foods do you regularly eat?
What does your general diet look like? (fats, proteins carbs ratio)
Do you have any dairy issues?
What about spicy food?
Have you tried OTC fiber like metamucil?
Have you thought about taking Imodium? This helps against Diarrhea. You should probably try this first. It's an opioid agonist that does not cross into the CNS. This gives the same effect as painkillers where it'll make you constipated.

Sounds like you had that one test a while ago, it's no longer valid, especially if it was done when you were feeling ok.
If you're happy sticking with your doc, ask for more tests. It's not a big ask to get blood tests done. The doc doesn't even do the analysis themselves. They draw blood and then hand it over.

OP I had pretty much literally the same issue as you and it just turned out I was lactose intolerant. Don't eat any of that for about 2 weeks and see how you feel. NO CHEATING.

It's very hard to tell if it's really lactose because all that shit takes a long time to move through your body.

It really makes no matter. No matter what I eat, I am have the shits. Fibre only tends to make everything worse.

Well I don't know, I started recovering like a week before I had this whole thing done.

And I am also checking these blood tests and it seems that I have a c-reactive protein count of 0.54, while the normal one is 0.5

I am lactose intolerant. I don't drink milk already.

>CF patients tend to have and ESR of 16. Mine is 4.
Which is in your typical case of multi-system malfunction. If you're strictly pancreatic, then you wouldn't fall into those typical rates

>Which is in your typical case of multi-system malfunction.

Huh?

So how hard is this test? Do you think I can just get it on demand even if I live in a country with socialized healthcare?

All you guys who are cutting and only eating 2000 or less cal a day are trolling right?
Do you literally not move all day?
I weigh 165lbs and I'm cutting at a 500cal deficit, I eat 3500-4000 cal a day and get consistent results.

>Huh?
Typical CF patients have a higher inflammation marker because they have multiple systems fucked up due to almost always having some kind of lung and/or sinus infection going on while also dealing with issues like the pancreatic malfunction causing malnutrition. Since you only have the pancreatic shit going on, you wouldn't have the respiratory inflammation to increase your ESR like more typical CF.

The sweat test is fairly easy to have done, but the doc may also want you to get the genetic test done to confirm what kind of mutation you have

But the pancreatic shit would have started at a much earlier age. I lost many family members to cancer and my father had UC, so I am naturally very hypochondriac; pretty sure I would have noticed if I had some issues.

>pancreatic malfunction causing malnutrition.

I don't have any symptoms of malnutrition either, though I obviously eat a lot and nutritious food.

>you wouldn't have the respiratory inflammation to increase your ESR like more typical CF.

But the pancreatic CF itself would have raised it, no?

All of my blood tests look fine, only c-reactive protein is high at 54 mg/L.