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What are some symptoms you've noticed since taking roids?

Larger dick, bigger muscles, women (and men) miring

okey senpaitachi

where in canada are u btw?

Canadian /fraud/ meetup when?

toronto
>tryna get estp here for blow & bjs

Im motivated only by sex.

Any of you guys take modafinil or armodafinil? I've got some of each and wasn't sure what a good starting dose was.

What are you running?

350/350/400 test tren eq low and slow

I've two dates set up: one with a thicc butterface white girl, and one with a fit black girl with a big ass.

I just want my slutty lactating asian sex kitten.

>I just want my slutty lactating asian sex kitten.

i'm genuinely surprised you haven't dipped into asian porn yet, even if it doesn't pay as much

do they limit how many scenes you can do each month?

Nah, my agent just keeps booking me for gay and trans scenes. Kink is setting me up with their femdom and trans studio though.

I wish I could just fuck asian hunnies for a living. I wish I could just fuck ladies how I like on camera but that'd be boring. Too sentimental.

>my agent keeps booking me into gay and trans scenes

What the fuck?

How much do you get paid dude

Nevermind. I just told a thicc asian hunny I made out with Feb I'd be in town to shoot porn and she's down to meet up.

I make like 1-2k per scene. 1099 though so it's just okay money.

Seems kind of low dude

Isn't that shit going to follow you for life?

>Oh look it's user, hey user fucked any more trannies recently? Harharhar

seriously going to rehab or 12 step program or something

im legit addicted to sex and fapping

former junkies of roid, howd you get clean, this shits getting bad and if i dont stop ill end up fucking dead or in jail

i was on 200mg test 300mg deca 30mg prov

now its just 300mg deca and im looking at SSRIs or other drugs to nuke my sex drive

dont want to take AIs because that effects other things too much

>Making these videos is normal in Russia

youtube.com/watch?v=BLgmaiPwrAw

what the heck?

>350/350/400 test tren eq
>low and slow
eeeehhh

Well I shoot like 2 scenes at once.

Thats just over a gram. I've done like 3 gram blasts before. Maybe 4.

well a gram of eq isn't going to affect your health markers as g of tren

Wtf I want steroids now

Biggest blast was when I cosplayed Toguro.

350 test
1200 eq
600 tren e
350 tren a
350 tren base
700 mast p
100 winny
100 drol
100 var

including 300mcg 3x daily ghrp2 and mod grf

600 tren e
350 tren a
350 tren base

Why all the tren variety?

Got any pics of that cosplay btw? Hakusho was GOAT for the Toguro saga

imgur.com/a/jIVsL

I just had it available.

I'm looking to run a cycle but after blood test came back my test is on the higher end. Can I just cycle without test injections?

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you have nice bicep insertions

what's your measurements big boy ;]

Here I was only like 210lb at 6'5-6'6

I'm like 240lb now. Heaviest was 275 last winter.

Actually look like youre too big to be toguro. Or at least too fat ( no offense)

He was mega lanky and really only got big delts when he powered up

I was thinking tren a and dia 50mg/day

It still supresses endogenous production. Seriously do a little bit of googling at least.

I totally agree actually. I would have done it better this spring when I was super lean.

imgur.com/a/wCD22

So I need the injections to keep the numbers up regardless of natural production due to suppression? Also after cycling and the suppression is reduced do the numbers return to normal or is this a one way street?

can you fucking kill yourself you didn't even read about this shit for 5 seconds before asking the most retarded basic googlable shit in this thread

Gotta cut another couple % and drop water to get that mutant look for a properly done Toguro. Maybe avoid direct arm work too for lanky aesthetic.

You can do it though, I believe.

Bump

1-2k per scene is way better than what he'd be getting paid for hetero scenes.

For good reason though. Aint no one wanna suck dick.

You're telling me.

Bimbo has a small dick for porn standards
If he had a big dick he would get better money fucking girls

Go to r/steroids and read no one is going to spoon feed you, kys

Source?

Dude, it's all really simple. I'll spoonfeed you.

Regardless of what hormone you are injecting, as far as androgens go you're going to get shut down. Suppressed is suppressed.

Theoretically, numbers should come back to where they were or where they are supposed to be. Some men report higher numbers.

They're hormones, some of the most finnicky drugs out there. We have a rudimentary understanding of how specific androgens work in the body but everyone will respond to the same hormone differently; test makes me explode in hair, and none in other, tren gives me horrible nightmares, some guys just get sweaty.

It's all up to the individuals gene expression.

There is no concrete proof of long term shut down with the use of androgens.

My dick is pretty okay. If I had my phone on me, I'd post pics of the dick pics my girl sent kink.

I swear those dick pics got me work. And I have worked with dudes with much smaller dicks.

Google Scott ambrose

jelqing really does work, if you have the patience and perform it properly (aka gradually build up intensity and take it slow)

>tfw forearm pump from hatestroking penor

It's ok if you don't know. I'm looking for feedback

>It's ok if you don't know. I'm looking for feedback

dude no one knows

You need to understand that steroids, for the purpose of building muscle are FOR THE MOST PART, bro-science. It's literally mostly some dudes trying different shit out, seeing how it works, recommending it to other dudes to see how it works, and then that's what gets passed down for years as advice.

There simply doesn't exist enough research, especially long-term on how this shit affects the body


There is no evidence to support permanent suppression of endogenous testosterone... but at the same time, there is cases of people's test getting shut down, lol. you need to understand this and take on the risk

I'm not worried about it at all.

Awesome, thanks a lot. That's the kinda info I was looking for

If my "tren" is half killing my dick, even with up to 2mg caber a week, does that mean there's deca or some shit in there too? My caber is pharma

One of my Kink shoots was just released.

So oddly enough this was very reassuring. Im close to the same size body, but not as ripped, and my pee pee is def bigger.

Been having size anxiety thinking that cause Im a big dude physically Id need to have abig dick to go along and Im just barely above average. But if Bimbo can do it so can I :)

What were you guys like before lifting and gearing?

Were you normal old schmucks? Describe yourselves please

>before
Manlet
>after
Zyzz

>Before
Absolute weirdo
>After
Absolute weirdo with big delts

>test makes me explode in hair
So you gain body hair but do you lose head/scalp hair?

Or are you just not predisposed to MPB? I don't see the body hair growth really mentioned on here. Hopefully test will help fill my beard out a little haha.

Sorry in advance for the lazy request for advice

I'm a manlet. I'm not interested in bodybuilding or getting Veeky Forums (at least not right now), I just want to be a more acceptable size for girls. I'm literally 5'4. As well as that I've got a 4 inch dick and it doesn't even have reasonable girth.

OP doesn't include some shit that should be included anyway, like reading material and the sort. I'm gonna give it a month of research and exposing myself to the steroid community before I even start to form opinions on it. As well as helping me out, I think whatever links you give should prob be included in next OP anyway.

Ok so where can I read about the different kinds of steroids/supplements? Seeing as I'm just going for growth, not really getting ripped, would I be looking at something like HGH? What kind of diet should I be going on while on HGH? Where can I read about the health risks and the safest routine I can follow that's least likely to fuck me up later in life?
I've got lots of other things to ask about but I'll just piss people off if I dump it all so we'll start out with that much.

A literal psychopath.

Shit's weird man.

Yes HGH. I don't know more than that, but HGH works for both height and dick size if you're young enough.

Would ravage estp hard

Does it really take 6 weeks to even feel the effects of pinning 250mg of test twice weekly?

And a beginner cycle is 12 weeks and you feel it for about two weeks after your last pin and then feel like shit for a month during PCT?

Are those potential 8 weeks even worth it?

For general steroids knowledge - reddit r wiki

HGH is expensive as fuck. How old are you? If you're old enough to afford it you're probably too old for it to increase your height.

Just get swole and forget about women.

3D are disgusting and will only disappoint. You will likely find more fulfillment in a great new hobby and after you figure out how to train you can jump on gear and have a lot more fun with aesthetics. You'll probably put weight on really easily as a manlet.

>t. 5'8" fellow manlet

What supps do you take aside from juice/ancillaries? What are they for?

Takes like 4

Yes they're worth it, but don't pct off.

I'm 20 and I'm past my natural growth age. I've been the same height for probably 5 years.

>forget about women
you serious? What's the point even living if I don't have a family by the end of it? I guess we're all different but this is too important for me.

And yeah I've heard bodybuilding's pretty easy as a manlet which is probably why I'm really good at dieting and change appearance pretty much twice a year depending on whether I'm on holidays or working / at school. Just not really into bodybuilding.

>5'8
>manlet
don't listen to Veeky Forums memes you're average height. I'm a manlet. You got no idea how much it sucks walking around in the city with women all around me being taller or equal height.

Fishoil, creatine, whey, bcaas, multivitamin

Liver support if I'm running orals

>but don't pct off.
Sounds like shit advice if I count it against the research I've done.

I'm not willing to perma cruise just yet.
I want to see how my body responds.

I want to see if I even keep any gains after the harsh PCT.

Or if it's all just a farce.

Well you can but you just implied it's a waste of time and seemed to come to that conclusion so I'm just saying

There's nothing to lose really, cruising is probably the same as fucking your HPTA by starting it up and turning it off repeatedly. And your gains will benefit from it

>don't pct off
so you're recommending b&c for life?

what do you consider a cruise dose btw? TRT people take 100/wk but i assume a /fraud/ cruise would be in the 200-250 range. assuming blast is 500?

>What's the point even living if I don't have a family by the end of it?
fair enough. there was a good but brief discussion in the earlier thread about giving up body-centric identity/self-valuation that i was still feeling but i can empathize with your position

also i don't think HGH will help much if you know your growth plates are closed. some people are late bloomers and may retain open growth plates into early 20s. i think some famous basketball players grew a lot in college

can you even afford HGH? i think you should roid instead

>you're average height
eh, if i measure it the way you do, i have the same problem. i live in a city in the southwest where most of the women i interact with are tall aryan qts that are at least my height and usually taller. shit sux but at the same time i dgaf because i see myself as more than a mere body whose success/fitness is measured by the amount of rugrats i can convince a grill to bear for me

again, not knocking your position, just suggesting an alternate one

Yes 200-250 for cruise

There really is no reason not to unless you have very high natty test I guess. But if we had good genetics we wouldn't be roid abusing junkies anyways...

I haven't even checked up how much HGH costs yet, assumed they'd be reasonably priced.

What other supplements might be relevant for someone solely looking to maximise height? Assuming I still have some possible growing to do that is. I heard that if you go on testosterone supplements your body naturally stops producing it to the same extent, which means if you come off you'll be gimped for testosterone later. That true?

Don't need to go into details but I fucked my immune system with tren dnp and accutane. Will it recover if I am on 500 test only, or should I drop to 250?

A kit of hgh is like up to $1000/month

>unless you have very high natty test I guess
my natty test is like low 300s but i have also read that you can improve your baseline natty test after a cycle or few

but the more i think about it i don't want to get off of test just to see if some vague potential outcome has been realized especially when i could keep riding the gains train

only reason i'd come off is if i couldn't keep the diet up. but i suppose test is useful for cutting cycles too

dammit can't think of reasons to come off haha

do you use hcg on b&c? if so, how often? i hear about legal trt folks using it ED or E2-3D and can only imagine their insurance covers it (and i guess it's not as expensive as black market hcg)

>>my natty test is like low 300s but i have also read that you can improve your baseline natty test after a cycle or few
lol not gonna happen. mine was below 300, just blast and cruise faggot.

whatever once you hop on you'll see yourself, you'll never wanna come off/go back to being low test

it won't even be about the gains, it will be about how it makes you feel

Christ. How many months would I have to be on it? Since I'm not bodybuilding could I go on a really small dose? I've only got $4,000 saved and I'm in university right now.

A small dose wont do shit for you

$1000 a month is for generic fake chinese shit though. it's many many times more than that for legit pharma HGH at bodybuilding doses

Is it? I'm not hip with the hgh crowd

Norvotrop seems pretty affordable, russian too

I was just thinking out loud.
Already have my cycle and PCT planned out.

And I am going in with that laughable "just one cycle" mindset.

Just hoping after the money spent, the seven days a week in the gym, the anal retentive meal planning and calorie tracking, the social restriction, the no drinking, the no binging on shitty salty foods... That by the end of it I actually have something to show for it that I can hold onto or if in the end it's no more concrete than the ephemeral highs of recreational drugs that only are good when you're on.

Just get on dude

Stop overthinking it

I am so fucking livid.

Was reading my ex's blog and some user told her that they're excited for her to get a girl. She responded by saying it was the most genuine and sweet thing she'd read or felt in a long time.

She literally proved the point I attempted to illustrate to her; she values the opinion of strangers more than she ever valued me. I did everything for her.

Picking up my cycle tomorrow.
Starting up Thursday night since I have two 30mg doses of Memestarine.

Also really need to get bloods done today or Wednesday.

Will just admit to using Ostarine and lie and say my nipples itch and I'm worried and they'll check specifically what I need tracked.

It's hard not to overthink.
Honestly feel I've underthunk it.

>It's hard not to overthink.
>Honestly feel I've underthunk it.

If you're running just test, or test and an oral kickstart it's stupid easy, man.

There's really nothing to think about. Buy gear, inject self with gear, get blood work to make sure you are okay (if you are not okay, post your blood work here, on r/steroids and also speak to your doctor about it), proceed to eat, lift and enjoy life.

It ain't nothin man

pls respond

>nd also speak to your doctor about it)
nope

no reason at all to do this especially when they know nothing at all about this shit. and they will not be able to tell you anything different than you'll get just from posting it somewhere asking for help

First pin is Thursday 250mg test e.
Then next three weeks 125mg Mon and Thursday.
Starting that Monday for 20 days I'll do tbol 20mg twice a day.
5th week into 12th week I up my test to 250mg twice a week.
Week 10 to first few days of 14th I start tbol again 20mg twice daily. (Total 30 days)

By then the test e will probably be alive for another 5 days or so.

Might bridge into PCT with some HCG and since the cycle is short stick to the recommended 40/40/20/20 nolva protocol.

Throughout my cycle I'll have aromasin on hand, thinking of using 6.25mg ED as of the fifth week into 13th, possibly using the rest during HCG blast and alongside nolva as they're touted as almost synergistic, of course paying attention to how my joints are feeling throughout.

Already have nasty bacne naturally so that's what I'm most paranoid of exasperating during PCT.

What's it like to intramuscular inject yourself?

Yeah I guess you're right, not sure why I said that

I like to be upfront with my doctor though

Chill dude, she is probably just farming internet points.

Hey guys, had a question: Is CNS overtraining real? Been on a cycle for 4 months now training 6-7 days a week, CK levels are up to mid 1000's and feeling lethargic and cramping up randomly... has anyone ever had similar issues or knows whats going on?

Maybe work on not being 30% bf before you do whatever retarded shit you just posted

His above pics definitely aren't 30% bf

Fuck off faggot.

I'm not as lean as I am here or here which according to dexa scans were 8.6 and 8.9% I am currently no where near 30% and likely look better than you natty than you would juiced.

Right now I'm between 12-14%, not ideal but it's as good as it'll get.

What would a beginner cycle contain other than test e?

Eating