Just found out I'm 350ng/dl test at 20 y/o. Give me ONE reason not to begin self prescribed trt

So I basically have to be at castration levels?

Ridiculous.

this shit does nothing besides fucking up your health. He can get underground lab test, pin for like 2 -3 weeks, go off and his test levels will drop under low end scale

Test is healthier than the androgens your doc will peddle

if I've been cutting for three months(slowly though) will my test levels be lower when I test them?

yet you can be some sick-ill minded individual that thinks he's a girl and get prescribed all types of hormones and even sex surgery?

what a world we live in

wat do?

Post pic of physique first
Guaranteed you're fat and have a terrible diet

Slightly lower than castration levels really.

I am kind of fat but id say that's more cause and effect when I gain almost no muscle from hulking all fat from low as fuck test

If your diet was shit, no
If your diet was good, maybe

I suppose my diet could be improved

I was 330ng/dl at aged 18 and deadlifted 405lbs for 5. Aged 22 (now) 565 for 1. Haven't had my test checked since but as long as you're within normal range it shouldn't hinder your ability to make gains.

damn how

Shouldn't low test have stopped you? Or does it more apply to muscle mass than strength somehow?

Eat very little, take opiates, sleep very little and take sarms

If you can do this for about 2 weeks you will have a good chance of getting a low t score

Can't he do a low dose cycle (maybe solo dbol) just to crash his natty test so he gets legal trt?

>low test

You really need to get off /fit

What?

I posted my results look at

With levels like that naturally, you can just lower them slightly and get legit treatment. Tips:

> drink a ton of alcohol + beer
> smoke a ton of weed
> take a lot of stimulants like caffeine and black tea
> eat mint or drink peppermint tea
> get less than 6 hours of sleep each night
> don't sleep at all the night before
> stop all exercise
> eat a ton of processed shit like candy, fast food and soda
> go on a low fat and low protein diet
> eat a lot of licorice + licorice root & tea
> eat more flaxseed
> jerk off as much as possible
> stop taking Vitamin D and multivit, kreatine, BCAA, etc.
> try to stress yourself somehow before doing the test
> behave like a weak pussy just before the test + have low-power body language/posture
> eat menstrual blood (for real)
> avoid high-test foods
> avoid sex

Gonna try this myself soon.

they still wont give a fuck or will prescribe you androgel or something

could i get gains and still be low test?

i have gotten good gains and a good strength level but nothing expectacular for two years, but i'm also a turbomanlet

I also had performance anxiety and porn induced ED for some time

how do i ask for a testosterone check?

>marijuana lowers test
[citation needed]

>flaxseed lowers test
p-please tell me this is a meme i eat so much of that stuff

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6090909
citation given

Dude, don't fall for retarted Veeky Forums memes.
I was in the same trap like you last year. I got my test checked, my test was low and I became depresses as hell.
Testosterone heavily fluctuates and these numbers alone dont have much relevance because they dont take the effectivity of your receptors in account.
Some people have low test and highly responsive receptors which gives them a high testosterone sensitivity.
That's also the reason why some people basically blow up on gear while others stay relatively small. Just look at the /fraud/ fags, there are people on gear who look like absolute shit.
As long as your dick works fine and you have a "normal" sexdrive, I can alomst guarantee that everything is alright.

Of course you could still juice up if you aren't satisfied with your natural gains but don't think you HAVE TO because there's something wrong with you. That's an unhealthy mindset that fucked me up for quite some time.

Because you're a GDE and should consider suicide instead.

I-i do half of this while trying to make it.

A-am I gonna make it?

Imagine how much smaller your balls could be

Did you check your LH, FSH, estradiol, TSH, T4, T3 and prolactin? Isn't more sensible to check everything well perhaps you have a treatable reason for this not so low test (perhaps you are not even low test, if you recheck the hormone it could be fine) before hopping on exogenous testosterone and being sterile and life dependant on it?

been taking sarms since I was 16, now 19. no adverse health effects. get bloods done on regular they're all fine

use lgd or rad instead of orals to kickstart cycles

>tfw 870ng/dL at 25.

That's the thing man.

I have every symptom. I knew I was low teat way before I checked it.

I have:
- no sex drive
- always tired even sleeping 9 hrs a day
- muscles recover very slowly
- low sex drive
- rarely ever get erections
- no facial or body hair
- No fucking gains

I only checked estradiol.

>Being sterile and life dependent
[Citation needed] because all the research I've done shows that isn't the case, but even if it were I don't care.

Ill blast and cruise for 10 years into my 30's before getting trt prescribed.

Want to get mine checked. Where do I got / how di I test.

Any natural ways to free test?

Serious question here

What signs would a 20 year old look for if he has low test?

Or did you even notice any OP?

I dont know if I should really pay for bloods since poorfag

"Production of LH and FSH is inhibited by negative feedback from estrogens and
androgens at both the hypothalamus and pituitary levels. Androgen excess may
induce a hypogonadal state whether from exogenous sources or endogenous
production, such as a metabolic abnormality or an androgen-producing tumor."

google.com.ar/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.uthsc.edu/endocrinology/documents/ch08-syllabus-Childress.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwili_GMrKTPAhUCFh4KHVacAVwQFggoMAQ&usg=AFQjCNFbCP3is6VW1NR7N4k2hk3Ah7hF0w

What state do you live in? Go to a hormone doctor. I go to a place called genemedics

Last blood test put me at just above clinically low test

Wat do?

Ask doctor to get it checked or just self medicate?

Damn you don't look bad, skinny but better than a lot of people.

What are your lifts at?

Most of these symptoms often have other reasons and aren't reliable but if you really have no sexdrive...
I would still try to fix them the "natural" way, zinc and vitamin-d supps, lots of healthy fats etc. The Human body is insanely complex and efficient and yet I get the feeling every 2nd Veeky Forumsizen thinks that his body is a genetic failure that isn't even able to produce it's own hormones. If it was like that, we all would've been extinct.

TRT is the last thing you should want, I just see no good reason why young people should need that to properly function.

Everyone gets incredibly paranoid over their test level, it's unreal.

Good luck OP!

Haven't tested 1RM in 4 months, but squat 235, DL 315, and bench 165 for 5x5. At 6 ft 180 lbs. Was 170 in that picture

you look like you bench the bar desu

Preach man, you hit the nail on the head regarding a ton of the paranoia I had regarding my low test readings about a year back. Im fwiw. I haven't sought TRT treatment and I still don't have much sex drive but most of my other symptoms seemed to be mental issues rather than testosterone induced

>same weight
>higher lifts
>don't look nearly as lean
GENETIC REEEEEEEEEEEEE
also, nice lack of pecs

Try cardio one time. I'm a rower so I don't expect to have a ton of upper body strength, but I guarantee I could crush you in any sort of work capacity

yeah well my uncle works at nintendo

different lighting/pose just for you :*

Man.

Weighing the pros and cons, on a logical level I see no reason to not cruise test. I've done tons of research. I see no reason at all for me not to.

>Low cost
>Minimal side effects
>Tons of benefit

Nice dude. How long lifting?

Cause if you got a conscience, it'll feel like cheating. Plus look at the old time juice monkeys..

You barely have any muscle mass. Why bother with trt when you can already make significant gains by eating more and lifting more?

How is it cheating?

If I was diabetic or had some other health problem requiring medication is that cheating too?

I'm not a competing athlete in any tested sport, it's not cheating.

Because test dramatically helps? I have the testosterone levels of an elderly man.

Also TRT is allowed in tested sports too.

There's no way a guy with 70 year old man-test can be expected to compete with a guy with high end of normal range.

That's a fair point, but have you tried it without test first?

Yes I've been lifting.

Trying to eat well for the last 2 years - no soda, no alcohol, healthy fats, protein etc.but only lifting and counting calories for 4-5 months

>tfw perscribed androgel
Jesus Veeky Forums when you say shit like this it really makes me fear that my life will never improve or reach normal happiness levels. Eating a bullet sounds better every day.

>.gov
You lost me right there.

Lol it can work but it's really iffy. Absorption is iffy

Also it's dangerous if you're around kids, women or pets.

Eat a lot of protein/meat, get good sleep, workout harder/more than you are currently, have sex/fap
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
Do all that and you'll increase testosterone naturally and won't need extraneous test

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Right, but what causes your low testosterone? Disease? Then they will be more focused on finding and curing the disease rather than giving your TRT.
Genes? Then you don't need TRT.

Young people don't get testosterone prescribed just for having low testosterone.

Wow thanks bro, amazing advice now my clinically low test will increase by 3%