What does Veeky Forums think of stronglifts (especially w/r/t their app)?
I've done a tiny bit of gym shit in the past, like using machines and stuff, but since moving to my uni gym, which is mostly free weight based, I've realized I'm gonna have to move over to using free weights if I'm gonna get anywhere (which is something I've wanted to do anyway, cuz they're just more effective).
But obviously I'm not sure where to start. I know its a strength programme, but will there be any aesthetic gain from using it? Is the app good or does it have problems? If it is shit, then what else should I do (what are my alternatives)?
Jordan Howard
Routine seems pretty normal 5x5 is good start to develop strength. Looks pretty handy for other stuff too.
Daniel Sanchez
Alright, thanks man. I think I'm gonna go with this one, see how it goes.
Dylan Richardson
Just do SS. What the fuck do you even need an app for when doing a linear beginners program. Just do the same shit every time but with more weight.
>will there be any aesthetic gain from using it Muscle is muscle. Do SS and read the fucking book. If people actually read it they would read the chapter about assistance and then they wouldn't babble about trex mode and "is SS a meme???".
Everything 3x5. Add rows 2x12 every other time and curls or any arm work whenever. If you're not getting aesthetic on this then it's probably because you're having shit genetics or you're not doing the program.
Landon Phillips
I use the app on iPhone. Highly recommended, it keeps reminding you to increase weight, records all your workouts and allows you to graph your progress, gives you a reminder when your 90 seconds of rest between sets is finished. It even tells you when to deload if you're failing too often.
Only thing I dislike is how long doing the entire workout takes if you follow the program perfectly including the wait periods, like 1hr - 1hr15 including loading/unload weights off the barbell. Pretty boring desu.
Also you don't need to buy the 'power pack' for $20, the app works great without it.
Sebastian Wood
Why are you so angry man? I know it's the internet, but this could be a chill thread. I'm new here and I'm just looking for some nice, chill user to come along and show me the ropes; no need to be crabby mang
Jacob Wood
I'm not angry. Stop projecting. And do SS, faggot.
Bentley Mitchell
>Also you don't need to buy the 'power pack' for $20, the app works great without it.
The free version only tracks a 5x5 routine
Landon Cox
Isn't Stronglifts mean to be 5x5 only? Like, it's called Stronglifts 5x5?
If you need more than that, there's probably better apps, it's designed solely support a 5x5 program.
Evan Rivera
What's this groovy Rippletoe cat got that the stronglifts programme doesn't my man?
Blake Davis
Yeah but I was trying to substitute the app for SS since the SS app is $14
Michael Wright
If you just pretend like you did 5 sets instead of 3 or whatever SS uses, and fill in all the boxes, you can probably use it for SS. And fill in OHP boxes for your cleans sets that you're doing in SS.
Julian Rivera
just bring a notepad you faggot. it's not even a meme, I used to use excel and do graphs and shit but using a notepad just has something about it
Xavier Lewis
Good programming. A book full of descriptions about what you're doing and why. Which you desperately need since:
Numales literally need an app to tell them what exercise to do next in a program that has 3 exercises and to help them count to 5.
Elijah Cook
SL is good. App is great. Fat t-rex dyels just parrot the sticky but don't actually lift. Do SL OP. Good luck.
Adrian Murphy
It has something autistic about it, correct.
Just fucki g remember your numbers and put them in excel at home how fucking hard is it?
Jaxon Rodriguez
>power cleans >less volume when the hallmark of a good beginners program is volume to drill in right motor patterns >doesn't get you to start with the bar which is objectively the best way the actual difference between the two work outs is pretty small outside of powercleans but the fact rip wants to get people to powerclean who don't have a coach there to teach them is just stupid
Alexander Richardson
I myself used it for about 4 months before moving to a more advanced routine. It was great tool to get my strength up and familiarize myself with the main compound moves.
Hunter Bennett
I have the app too, tracking progress feels really good. You can look at the graph and see just how much you're getting better.
Almost 2 month in and I just hit 1.5 pl8 squat 1 plate bench and 2 pl8 dead lift. Definitely getting gains.
Grayson Powell
No, lifting heavy weights several times a week never made anyone look better OP...
Its a great program to start with. Will it turn you into a Zyzz looking mother fucked? No. But no program on earth will at the start of your lifting career with the exception of starting to tren hard and eating clen.
What it will do is get you a decent squat, deadlift and bench and once your 1RM is at a good level you can start looking towards a more aesthetic geared program if you wish on my this time instead of working to 70% of a shitty 1RM for many reps you'll be doing it at 70% of a respectable 1RM for many reps. Thus making better gains than if you just fuck around from the start.
Also do accessory work like chins and dips and curls and skullcrushers while doing SL. If you do these regularly it can actually give a decent aesthetic improvement while also making you stronger.
Luis Adams
The one with power cleans is only one version. Which you would know if you actually read the book. Or the post you're quoting. And you would also know how to do power cleans properly if you actually read the book. Rips clean is a very simple variation.
>doesn't get you to start with the bar which is objectively the best way It's literally and objectively a waste of time to start with an empty bar unless you're a little twink.
Elijah Butler
standard SS has powercleans and no-one is going to powerclean properly from reading a book; it's a highly technical lift
>starting out with any weight on the bar if you take any school kid who doesn't do gymnastics and get them to do a full depth squat you'll find that they don't have the flexibilty for it if you don't have the flexibility to even squat you sure as heck shouldn't be doing it with weight; and because they can't properly squat they will develop bad form and overdevelop some muscles while underdeveloping others
Owen Lewis
Yes, but if you're smart you just hit the first three sets then tell the app you did five and guess what? It actually believes you and tracks your progress anyway! Stupid piece of shit.
Ryan Green
Truth is, when you get to a high enough weight, sets require more and more energy. For beginners/intermediates, it is perfect.
SL 5x5 becomes untenable for proficient/advanced lifters.
Asher Phillips
yes
it's a beginner routine
Luis Butler
Cool. You sound very knowledgeable. How many school kids did you train?
>highly technical It really fucking isn't.
Jordan Gomez
i train at a weightlifting gym that is sent school kids from grade 5 to grade 12 and all of them have the same problem
lordosis and kyphosis from too much sitting, and all the problems that come with it including bad ankle mobility weak hamstrings poor balance a weak core and weak lower traps
it is a technical lift i know you think it's the easiest thing because you just pick up a barbell and go but unless you know the indepth nature of the first second and third pull as well as different variants of cleans from different regions in the world and why certain body types are suited to different versions of the clean i really don't think you know shit about it
Landon Young
Confirmed for not knowing how to properly power clean. Another armchair ss parrot.
Camden Jackson
You can't seriously think you can do a complex mechanical action just by reading about it?
It's like saying you can play pieces of piano music just by reading the score, having never played piano before. It's absolutely idiotic
Kevin Price
Jesus dude, relax. Man this thread got heated fast over two routines which are identical aside from volume and OHP or clean