What is it about Gnosticism that attracts schizophrenics...

My brother is schizo and it’s no laughing matter. This kind of shit destroys families and causes a lifetime of mentap trauma, guy is an absolute demon spawn from hell with zero empathy for anyone and a laser-guided will to ultimate hedonistic pleasure at the expense of all his relationships. He spends every waking moment with you insulting you under his breath for not achieving high enough in life whilst he sits on his mother’s coach collecting government checks, and it’s completey impossible to reason with him that he is the lowest of the low and has no right to judge others and so in his delusions he convinced himself that he’s the greatest person ever and that everything he does is justified whilst everyone else is out to get him. Schizo people are a nightmare to be around, he ruins every holiday because my mother is too soft-hearted to put him in a mental hospital and so he just literally shittalks everyone across the table the entire meal and nobody’s says anything because my mom is also a head case and just demands everyone coexist with him when he’s tearing our family apart and ruining everyone’s lives, every moment she spends with him is misery and yet she leaves him with the rest of her family every day and he takes over the house like a gorilla and eats all the food and sleeps until 4:00pm. He is easily the most disgustingly evil mammal to ever walk the earth, I’ve never wondered how the worst kind of people could possibly exist because I’ve always had the worst person on the planet as a brother so the depths of human vice had already been demonstrated to me.
In conclusion OP, schizophrenia is not funny, it ruins lives and creates the most outrageously awful human beings in existence, which you then must coexist with at every family reunion because they’re crazy and you have to be grateful bigger man while they sit across the table and utter insults under their breath literally every 5 seconds

sounds more like your brother is just an asshole

anti-realism

sounds like you had a shitty christmass sorry freind

I’m pretty sure he’s so much of an asshole that it turned him schizophrenic. Basically, extreme pride+stupidity+the inability to rationalize his own faults=everyone else is wrong except for him, which obviously clashes with him being the dumbest person I’ve ever met and so the clash between being really fucking dumb and having no friends and the insane belief that he is amazing and should have all the friends made him crazy, since he literally cannot admit to himself that he is a piece of shit and he’s the problem, not everyone else. That’s what schizophrenia is, getting an insane personal worldview that clashes with reality and then getting even crazier every time reality breaks the bubble.

Hello Hylics.

also you might be a little skits

I can admit I’m a piece of sit, and it’s probably because the complete and utter lack of standards from my parents since as a kid if you see your older brother consistently be the worst human being imaginable and not really being punished for it, you realize early there are no standards in your life and everything is permitted since ultimately she puts up with such a horrible person so nothing we do could ever top how bad our older brother is and therefore nothing we ever do could really get us in trouble. So having no standards because of him really fucked our childhoods I would say, maybe a little bit schizo but at least I have the sense to realize that I suck and to rationalize my faults and weaknesses, I became depressed rather than insane because I rationalized and accepted my inferiority whilst he refused and it drove him mad. So no, not schizo, I can still recognize that I suck and as long as that is possible I know I’m not delusional.

> it’s probably because the complete and utter lack of standards from my parents
it doesn't work like that, the reasons are physiological

Then maybe it’s not as straight forward as I imply but it’s still a factor. Maybe the schizophrenia was always there naturally and it simply exasperated his faults to an extreme degree. He was always an asshole but the schizophrenia hit hard during maturity and has remained unbearable since. So maybe it goes both ways, his innately aggressive and prideful personality feeds off of his schizophrenia and vice versa. I’m not a psychologist, I just know the guy is an unbearable human being to coexist with and it’s not just my family, it’s anyone that is forced to be around him.

Nah, lots of people are shitty, it is a facet of human existence and I can almost guarantee an expert will tell you it is unrelated to schizophrenia. An analogy might be having the flu and stubbing your toe, stubbing your toe sucks but the pain is not due to the flu. There is nothing exceptional about your brother and it is possible your obsession with him is due to schizophrenia or some other mental illness.

I say "possible" as I am an armchair psychologist over the internet who knows nothing about you beyond those lengthy rants. Obviously you would need an actual mental healthcare specialist to confirm any of this 100%.

Religion in general is for the mentally ill. Regular forms are for the retarded, mystical forms are for the psychotic.

>Religion in general is for the mentally ill. Regular forms are for the retarded, mystical forms are for the psychotic.

For most people religion is something you're born into. Gnosticism is something you get interested in on your own, mostly because it's as schizo as you are.

Every armchair psychologist on the planet that listens to someone rant about their family feels so damn on-point implying projection like it’s the root of every single vice, you’re right your analysis is lazy armchair rationalization akin to “lol stop projecting.” I’m not schizophrenic, I’m fucking autistic and that’s probably what you’re getting at but this is exactly why armchair psychology is so damn inaccurate. You infer a mental illness yes, but you go too far to make suggestions as to what that mental illness is. My brother in the other hand has been diagnosed and sent to where he belongs multiple times but my mother’s heart saves him from his fate every time, stop implying that I am projecting my schizophrenia on my brother: what a juvenile, generic assumption. He ruined my childhood, continues to ruin my mother’s life, ruins every reunion, ruins everything he is a part of and everyone in my family hates him just as much as I do, only my mother pities him, everyone else literally wishes he was dead.
You act like my hatred isn’t justified, like there’s something deeper, like tv shows have convinced you that every problem somebody has with another person is projection, well I believe gay severely limits conversation, this conversation isn’t taking the u-turn that tv sitcom psychologists usually take, this isn’t an episode of the sopranos it’s real life and I’m not projecting anything. I rant because I’m autistic and lonely not because I have the same faults as my asshole brother. I’m also gay and his bullying prevented me for coming out my entire childhood.

>insane mom
>one son is a schizo
>other son is an autist
Maybe it's time for your family to stop breeding.

Not him, but your intense hate and lack of empathy for your brother outs you as a schizoid and or autist, no offense it's just evident.

I understand disliking him and not tolerating his presence but describing his as "the worst mammal on the planet" is definitely a sign of insanity, especially considering that, as you say it yourself, your brother is mentally ill

What's more schizo than thinking literally the whole universe is out to get you?

Gnosticism is probably correct but I need a more optimistic view of the world to get through life.

He was the worst kind of person before his late-onset of craziness took hold, congratulations you inferred that I have issues, makes me so much different than everyone else here how amazingly on-point and intelligent you are for calling attention to it what a stroke of wisdom you’ve just showed, wow really changed the way I think about things “lol stop projecting” must be the epitome of rationalizations for normalfags and single children that don’t understand the existential misery of having a big angry bully as your older brother. Congratulations, you’ve come to the pretty obvious conclusion that something is wrong with me, which you could be just as accurate about with virtually half of these posts since most people here have some mental issue or another and could be deconstructed in the same way, but you reveal your lack of professionalism and lack of true insight when you fall back on projection: the poster child of armchair psychology

well if you have been legit diagnosed then I guess he is skits

>I’m also gay and his bullying prevented me for coming out my entire childhood.
nigga move out and move on, family is a spook anyway

It will be difficult for someone with autism, however you could try to divert your autistic obsessions towards maintaining a frugal lifestyle and something like programming and do better than most normies. Sounds like your life is shitty enough that anything is a step up even if it is difficult and you can only muddle through.

>also gay
kys

Fuck off Demiurge

Didn't you just blame him for your failure like the cowards do? it's not like people are born with schizophrenia

I hope I'm not schizophrenic

What if you are?

>What is it about Gnosticism that attracts schizophrenics?
This is a mis-attribution of cause.
Gnosticism doesn't attract schizo-type disorders. /fringe/ and allied venues attract schizo-type disorders, and /fringe/ along with other venues is OBSESSED with an ahistorical meme tier reductionist understanding of "matrix" Gnosticism, while ignoring that Gnosticism is a shitty and poorly applied blanket term referring to a cluster of probably two dozen sects and practices with diverging theology over the span of like five hundred years.

>OBSESSED with an ahistorical meme tier reductionist understanding of "matrix" Gnosticism, while ignoring...
And while it's clear that these folks are anti Gnostic, clearly their understanding has been utterly poisoned by /pol/ and /fringe/ tier Gnostics:

@_@

It's almost as if Gnostics are unable to comprehend basic Set Theory and apply that to the probability of their narrative being absolutely true,

"No no, there's only the Demiurge and Sophia. There's could never be any other structure of our reality. Nope not ever."

:^)

Wasn't Demiurge spawned by Sophia, isn't he just her aborted abomination? If they blame Demiurge (man) instead of Sophia (woman) it's pretty obvious it's yet another cult of cuntcucks and slaves to the eternal bitch.

>isn't he just her aborted abomination
According to...Ophite cosmology(?) Sophia loves Demiurge, and wants to see it redeemed. That's why she hasn't intervened to unfuck his shit, she's weeping inconsolably and will be for some time.

It has nothing to do with male or female. Sophia didn't know she would birth Yaldabaoth. She and the Monad were capable of creation together but when she realized she could just make things appear she made him like when Hera births Typhon. He's wholly evil, she had know idea what she was doing. Her name means wisdom, not knowledge.

Point is, the nature of evil is feminine, nature itself is feminine and evil. If Gnostics don't understand this basic fact they're about as enlightened as my cock and should be ignored for being vaginal slaves.

That's a lot of pent up....Emotion. Pic related.

>If Gnostics don't understand this basic fact they're about as enlightened as my cock and should be ignored for being vaginal slaves.

I don't understand where your reasoning is coming from. Maybe start from the beginning?

Reproduction.

Jesus fucking christ Guys, I'm talking about the infinite number of equally "valid" metanarratives.

>According to...Ophite cosmology(?) Sophia loves Demiurge, and wants to see it redeemed. That's why she hasn't intervened to unfuck his shit, she's weeping inconsolably and will be for some time.

I mean look at this shit. The ontology of reality is a fucking Oxygen drama show to these jokesters. I'd rather recount the passage of the Dreamtime with, petrol huffing Abroigines, then be party to this fan fiction tier shit.

Sophia is the one who pleaded with the Monad to redeem the entire situation so what good does it do to blame her?

Part of the unintended consequences of memetics experimentation in the early 90's. Schizos have severely compromised memetic immune systems.

More info: books.google.com/books?id=u6b1bVz8djwC&pg=PA251&lpg=PA251&dq="virus 23" memetic&source=bl&ots=mpPQhXTqZS&sig=ViGfMW4x146WTG-YnwLFL1MRlEA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjH9JKSu5rUAhXmj1QKHbr2Br8Q6AEIJzAA#v=onepage&q="virus 23" memetic&f=false

>The ontology of reality is a fucking Oxygen drama show to these jokesters
Matt 5:4.

>i'd rather recount dreamtime
Sounds like a good plan. Might ... stretch wide your narrow perspectives.

I'd say the schizo memetics is in response to the massive flood of stimulation and information, not the other way around. Schizo memetics is a mere group of pirates in a vast sea that is being more and more polluted.

Advertisers have committed memetic crimes on a far higher level than any disabled schizo. Just think of the millions of children with stunted cognitive ability and stunted immune systems because Nestle "donated" their free formula to developing countries as a replacement for breast feeding.

>I'd say the schizo memetics is in response to the massive flood of stimulation and information, not the other way around.

They're like mine canaries, exhibiting the psychoses of culture in often pronounced forms.

However Veeky Forums is a super-amplifier of schizo memetics by virtue of its design. Rapid thread turn-around makes fierce competition of memes and a fast rate of evolution by having short "generations." The platform punishes discussion and rewards images and low-quality but highly reproducable memes. Throw in a bunch of people with weak memetic immune systems and you have quickly evolving mind viruses with the fitness criterion being what can exploit the psychological vulnerabilities in broken minds the best. The results speak for themselves: profoundly broken ideas that to a "normie" seems like complete insanity driven by hate and fear.

I'd say that it exposes the broken ideas of a century. Post WWII media was far more corrupting to the population. Well that and possible mass lead poisoning.

Veeky Forums has a fraction of cognitive ad space that used to accompany something like a shitty sitcoms. I can't believe that I used to sit through all those fucking ads.

Cognitive poison IMO. In comparison, Veeky Forums trolls are fucking saints.

Who the fuck writes like this, jesus dude

>I can't believe that I used to sit through all those fucking ads.
this baffles me today as well. I wonder how much that fucks up someones mind?

Religion is with us because human beings are fundamentally emotional, not rational.

hurrrrrr

>gay autist
>shut in schizo
Already did.

user you sound like me except my brother is autistic and not schizophrenic. He ruined my childhood too, he's an ass hat like you describe and nobody can say anything to him because hell just threaten to kill himself. He takes himself hostage so we have to enable him or risk his embarrassing adult tantrums

In a non Christian world I would have literally killed him years ago and I say that with a straight face

Gnosticism has a very inclusive cosmology so what is with this absolutist bullshit you keep accusing them of? Of course they think they have correct to the best of their ability, otherwise they wouldn't think it. It's not different from Atheist, Buddhist or even agnostics who are so sure they know nothing.

Stop your whining. It's a "problem" every religious person has. They're trying to predict the story before it even happens. I'm gobsmacked there's no real evaluation of the infinite shades of diety(ies) there could be.

Instead each resident of the insane asylum says they know! None of the humbleness of Job, who alone knew that applying human standards to the creator, of Leviathan and of Behemoth, was folly. The fool is the wisest person, for he knows he's a fool in relation to the information asymmetry of the world.

A world with suffering and pain might be a precondition for having a benevolent God. The Japanese have the art of bonsai but there's chaos when regarding the art of teaching man and the art of choosing the right things to teach man.

No humbleness indeed, instead of letting alone and letting live, you have attacked a group of people.

No one is more invasive and bitter than atheists, although they try their hardest to say they are not.

I'm only an athiest as a matter of pragmatics. As a "belief system", it's insulting to be lumped in with people as criminally stupid as those found in the new athiesm movement. But how could my cognition encompass the universe? How can I slay all the possible gods throughout all possible dimensions? In the end, is the beautiful lie better than absolute accuracy and absolute knowledge?

That is the humbleness an inkling of the notion of information asymmetry gives one. But this sort of humbleness is rarely present in tribalistic normies. They want the world within their bounds and the notion of being patient enough, to wait for the glaciers of thought to crack, is beyond them. People are mostly bad when it serves them and mostly good when it serves them. To be religious, you're asking me to believe that men aren't self-serving in any variety of cloaks whether it be of the priest or of the nobleman or of the bureaucrat.

Imagine you are going through a psychedelic trip with a group of friends. Most of them freak out a bit because they have sproadic experience in confronting their thoughts and ideas. The humble man sits and lets the illusions pass over him like a veil of Maya. And then he can smile, for the devil of gravity is slain by the blades of the foolish and the shit eating grins of the humble.

It's not schizophrenia, it's pretentiousness. Same with a lot of the religious posters I've encountered on this board. They won't answer any of your questions with anything but riddles because they don't actually have anything insightful to argue against you.

more like
>religious poster answers question
>instead of just accepting it, atheist keep disputing it using fallacies

>They won't answer any of your questions with anything but riddles
Fucking hate when people do this. Holy shit.

No, it's as I said. You ask a question about the legitimacy of a religious concept and they retort with not an argument against your dismissal of it, but some pretentious "yes because yes" riddle.

more like
>SMUG TROLL USES RELIGION ON Veeky Forums
>IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE
Much like the pretend or conveniently converted stormniggers on /pol/ who do so out of a desire merely to be smug and divisive, so do christfags on Veeky Forums. I mean, if you really cared, and was pragmatic about actually converting people, just fucking use a pastebin with a Q&A instead of bickering with anons over the same points over and over again and go from there instead of wasting our time rewriting them just so you can pretend you feel like you've done something. God is no fool if you truly believe him. And this is coming from an agnostic who gets religious dreams from time to time only to come to the same conclusion. That the bible demands you change your lifestyle and viewpoint significantly, but it does a shitty job of convincing you to do so when taking to considering the similarity and history of other religions along with the corruptibility of man and how most of them use the bible as more of a psyop weapon rather than a tool for enlightenment. Faith is a bullshit for conversion because it opens the mind to delusions and nothing can convince me otherwise because I've been down that path many times. I've dreamt the dreams of running from home and wearing rags and preaching like a crazy person. And I know myself enough to know that those delusions come from my mind from experience with other non-godly delusions.

If you truly cared, be efficient and put the work into it, because the bible is meant to be transformative. If you're just going to bicker on the internet, then:
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Someone who is not schizophrenic but has many of the genes associated with the disease :^|

ASD people are more likely to believe conspiracy theories, and gnosticism is pretty esoteric and conspiratorial in belief ("God isn't really God, but a lesser evil God, also Jesus is the reincarnation of Cain and Abel's brother").

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Reddit tier pic

Just like your shitty nu-memery. Fedora jokes are meaningless and impotent now because you idiots decided that it would be "epic" to blow them out of proportion and become ironically anti-atheist.

Who are you referring to specifically, OP?

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more proof lefties can’t meme?

godbless you user