Do BCAA's really help prevent muscle atrophy on a cut or are they a meme invented by shills Veeky Forums?
Do BCAA's really help prevent muscle atrophy on a cut or are they a meme invented by shills Veeky Forums?
Nicholas Jackson
William Garcia
BCAA are clinically proven to prevent muscle loss(doctors even prescribe them to people for that purpose) but it's up to you whether slightly slower loss of muscle during cutting is worth the cost of supplements
Jason Nguyen
Don't most protein powders comes with BCAAs?
Just have a shake on a cut and you should be fine
John Ross
they have been proven to spike muscle protein synthesis and decrease muscle protein breakdown, so it seems logical that they would. but at the moment we don't have proof that they help preserve/gain muscle if you already eat enough protein so nobody can say for sure that they work.
Gabriel Long
The money part isn't really an issue, it's just whether or not they're a worthwhile investment. Do they help with putting on muscle at all?
Austin Ortiz
that's not how BCAA supplements work. the point is to take them between meals to keep muscle protein synthesis high throughout the day. you take them for their acute effect. they have to be timed correctly and taken alone. if you take them with a meal you're wasting your money.
Ian Edwards
Protein = BCAA. As long as you're getting enough protein there's no need to buy BCAA powder separately.
You only really get their benefits when you're doing intermittent fasting (of if you're not getting enough protein in the first place).
>take them between meals to keep muscle protein synthesis high
Is there any science to actually back this up? Assuming you eat every 6 hours or so and get protein with every meal this shouldn't be a problem at all.
Hudson Bennett
They do help but the difference will be very minor if your protein intake is already high
Joshua Taylor
if you think taking bcaas will give you extra gains youre dead wrong and youre probably taking a lot of other supplements for the wrong reasons too
Joseph Reyes
>Is there any science to actually back this up?
yes, there is. look it up yourself.
both of you are unfamiliar with the data on BCAAs and should stop giving advice. I mean, we can discuss how useful they might be, but when you don't even know what they do it's just pointless.
Ayden Howard
>makes claim that goes against everything you hear from everywhere else
>hurr look it up yourself
Julian Smith
Nope.
Daniel Collins
is there any point in BCAAs on a bulk?
Andrew Williams
Anyone here take BCAA's while working out? is this actually useful?
Eli Johnson
BCAA is PROTEIN. Thats all folks! There are a few forms of aminoacids and BCAA are supposed to be the a bit rarer ones. But if you eat enough protein you get enough BCAA anyway.
Its because those who were eating BCAA were basically eating more protein than the control group - and as we all know, eating protein is good for anti muscle loss
Benjamin Morgan
technically yes but proteins are broken up into amino acids when digesting.
supplementing with extra amino acids is pointless if you are eating enough protein.
Julian Carter
bigger question, should I get some fish oil? Probably yes, I'm already a very clean water but more omega acids would be good right?
Leo Hughes
BCAA's a good for only one thing and that's:
Fasted training
They provide the nutrition needed to maintain muscle without ruining your fast
Jacob Harris
BCAAs are good***
Brody Young
I didn´t notice jack shit when i tried it out a few weeks ago. Better to just save it for the cutting.
Angel Ward
not who you guys are arguing with but
bodybuilding.com
biolayne.com
yes, there definitely is.
its useful in theory but i personally dont feel like it does much as an intra. i prefer using bcaas as a small post-workout drink and between meals.
BCAA is protein that is metabolized instantly and goes straight into your bloodstream, unlike any regular protein. this has many different benefits. read the links above
fish oil only has proven benefits if youre not Veeky Forums. that is, if your ldl or triglycerides are high it will help them. but its relatively cheap so you can just play it safe and take it
its not like you notice the protein synthesis from a regular meal in any way either.
Christopher Miller
Maximum shilling
Jacob Ward
great argument m8
Camden Morales
Does supplementation of BCAA's affect glucagon levels when fasting?
Adrian White
It breaks your fast , if that's what you're asking
m.youtube.com
People who use it for """fasted""" training literally might as well drink whey
Christopher White
Yeah that mostly answers my question, thanks for the link.
Basically glucagon is the opposite hormone of insulin. Insulin encourages storage of glucose, while glucagon encourages using up glycogen in the liver and promotes gluconeogenesis. These two hormones are released depending upon your blood glucose levels, which are lower when you are fasting.
Mason Butler
>Do BCAA's really help prevent muscle atrophy on a cut or are they a meme invented by shills Veeky Forums?
what are the three aminos in BCAAs and what do they do? Leucine should give you a clue you thick, lazy cunt
Blake Williams
The reason, I think, they are thought to be better than the other AAs for cutting is because their metabolism cannot make glucose in humans, so they won't spike insulin, which prevents lipolysis.
Never done any looking into papers about this stuff, but I'd bet the effects are non-existent or negligible, if you control with equal amounts of glucogenic AAs.
Broscience
Robert Sanchez
>It breaks your fast , if that's what you're asking
But it doesn't spike bloodsugar levels, which means a lot of the same effects during fasting remain in effect, until you consume something that can be turned into blood glucose
Tyler Walker
>Is there any science to actually back this up
No
>yes, there is. look it up yourself.
No, there isn't. Pretty much every meal-timing study ever has shown that the effect is negligible for everyday people.
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