Is Veeky Forums ironically /leftypol/...

Well, I was arguing that people with strong political biases tend to perceive neutral or disinterested perspectives as slanted against their cause.

Thus, if you find that an entire community or medium seems consistently hostile towards your view, you may need to consider
the possibility that your worldview is skewed and you should seek out different perspectives.

That and you're a faggot.

I bet you would suck a guy off for bus fare and then walk home.

Knowing how leftist subreddits operate, I'm surprised pic-related OP didn't get banned for suggesting something get 'colonized'.

you are not improving anything in any way maybe you should start some unpopular opinions in your thread then we can argue over that

I'm arguing that Veeky Forums should be neutral as it's not what we feel that matters but what historical evidence (not narratives) shows.

It's important to seek out discourse that counters your own assumptions. Does that mean I want to listen to /pol/ and /leftypol/ fight over which genocide really wasn't genocide? Because you aren't going to convince me that communism isn't a tool of mass murder and that Nazism isn't literally an excuse to murder everyone who disagrees with you.

Also are you literally using an old meme to try and attack me? Do you really have to steal insults because you're too stupid to think of them yourself? Pathetic reddit users need to get the fuck out

Veeky Forums isn't lefty at all. Not Nazi, either, Veeky Forums is a monarchist board.

CARTHAGE DESERVED IT. We should rebuild it just to raze it to the ground again.

Colonization was punishment for Carthage ever existing.

Considering how much Nicky dick sucking and crying over Louis Charles I see I'm not opposed to that conclusion.

> Why do I seem to see overwhelming historical revision on the part of the left but as soon as you even form an unpopular opinion you get called a nazi and a stormfag and a /pol/ user. Does Veeky Forums actually care about history or do they only care about narrative?
That's because you have an IQ below 80. I suggest you do something more in line with your aptitudes, like chopping wood or performing other manual labor. Clearly you're not cut out for discussing intellectual subjects on the Internet.

t. a communist who deserves the rope

I don't think you can separate history from historiography, and thus ideology, so cleanly. If if a purely neutral perspective was possible, the person receiving it would be no means view it as such, due to the innate biases of the viewer. The key is not the pursuit of neutrality, but the pursuit of truth.

If you think a post is not well informed or well researched, you should ignore it and try to create something of your own that lives up to your standards.

Literally nobody has ever improved a Veeky Forums board by starting a thread complaining about the things they don't like about it. That simply isn't the way that this type of community functions.

Also, low effort insults are actually more effective at displaying contempt than high effort insults, because a low effort insult indicates that you don't respect the person's intelligence or importance enough to put any effort into your scorn.

Faggot.

commies better run!

Amerimutt OP
i'm your nemesis
i hate wh*Tes but i ain't from leftypol
i'm a BLACK supremacist

I'm actually curious, how do you justify communism?

>not posting big /pol/ guys

How did you get into that mental gymnastics routine?

And who decides the "truth"? That's a pretty dangerous argument and one that reveals your hand. Stay classy /leftypol/ or /pol/ who cares you're both the same.

>get btfo in threads
>creates one to whine about it
Red-baiting is not an argument

communist's are ridiculed as much or more then nazi's are here

>no evidence that those 8 reddit comments actually led to anything
>the fact that /leftypol/ were most likely already on Veeky Forums before their efforts to raid/influence /pol/
>the /left/ general OP obviously being a false flag given the OP image making fun of antifa

I don't deny that they're trying to influence things, but I don't see any evidence that they're any more than a drop in the bucket. Especially compared to the R*ddit influx this site has seen since 2015 thanks to Trump and R*ddit banning far-right subs.

Boards discussing meta infiltration contribute just as much to the shit stirring on this board as the bait threads and revision does.

Be the change you wanna see, make quality threads. Meta threads accusing the board of radicalism toward one direction or the other is only going to continue the shit-flinging.

*threads discussing meta infiltration, sorry bout that

I don't even have to present evidence when you bring it to me.

I am Marxist, and I post on Veeky Forums mainly for older periods of it that aren't incorporated in political agendas and propaganda (and thus there is no merit in historical discussion of those anyway). That said, If I see a stormfag, I BTFO him.

Wow you sure got me, I can't believe that people born 200 years ago are dead

>Debord

debord was based though

>itt commies pretending to play the victim

Yeah we're taking this board back.

And what if I like the taste if shit?

We're Radical Centrists who just want Anne Frank, Rutka Laskier, and Anastasia Romanov to be able to get pregnant and have babies in peace.

As such, we believe National Socialists and regular Socialists alike deserve to be thrown from helicopters.

>I'm actually curious, how do you justify communism?
That's like saying "how do you justify the abolition of slavery"? There's nothing to justify. How do you justify imperialist capitalism, killing children at this very moment in Syria and Yemen?

Pinochet was a ZOG puppet

We're a mix of Radical Centrists and Right-leaning libertarians who just want Anne Frank, Rutka Laskier, and Anastasia Romanov to be able to get pregnant and have babies in peace.

As such, we believe National Socialists and regular Socialists alike deserve the rope.

Literally everyone you disagree with is a ZOG puppet

Don’t act like every decision governments make is because of the economic system we’re using. It’s not that important.

>unironically being a libertarian

I assume you weigh over 300 pounds?

>DUDE, LIKE, CLASS IS THE ONLY DEFINING DIFFERENCE IN PEOPLE! THINGS LIKE SEX, CULTURE, RELIGION, LANGUAGE, ECT DONT MATTER AND ARENT EVEN REAL!

It's more like saying, "how do you justify slavery?" You fucking worm. Communism creates slaves to a small elite of party elites. Every attempt at communism has created that.
>inb4 muh real gommunism
This is what's wrong with you delusional scum. Reality is shoved in your faces. Destruction, famine, genocide, enslavment, oppression, and failure is presented to you with its singular cause being the pursuing of some fanciful and retarded ideals. Capitalism is merely the observation of how humans naturally interact amongst each other economically. Capitalism wasn't some faniciful theory developed and then forcefully instituted. It is the natural result of human exchange. When you attribute deaths and what not to capitalism, you attempt to do to it what others do to your precious communism. The problem is, those things "caused" by capitalism is the product of many factors, none of which being the pursuing of capitalistic ideals; whereas communism and it's formulated ideals are the soul causes of it's miseries.

>historical revision
It's clear by the way you use this word that you don't know what it means.

It's hard to separate politics from history. But yes one side of a political ideology can overwhelm the stuff said about a particular time period in the modern era. Why I distrust modern historians in general.

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> Every attempt at communism has created that.
The people who actually lived under communism disagree, but what do they know? You obviously know more about life under communism than the people who, you know, actually lived under communism.

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>whereas communism and it's formulated ideals are the soul causes of it's miseries.
to any leftypol fag who would argue against this, what did Marx mean when he refered to the implementation of communism as "despotic inroads" in the communist manifesto?

guy on the bottom right deserved it

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>dumb old slavs high on nostalgia like it, so this somehow exonerates all its pitfalls, including genocide and its economic implosion
Hey user, what if tomorrow, 81% of Germans said they miss Nazism, would this be a justifiable reason in your mind to bring it back?

Communism is extremely violent, because violence towards bad people is necessary and justified.

t. 15 year old from new jersey who's never talked to anyone from eastern europe in his life

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>bad people

What kind of source is that? Is that one of your blog posts?

>economic implosion
lol

>81% of Germans said they miss Nazism, would this be a justifiable reason in your mind to bring it back?
If 81% of Germans said they miss Nazism, I would have to reconsider the anti-Nazi narrative I've been taught in school. Yet you see no reason to question the anti-communist narrative you've been fed since 2nd grade, because you're not smart enough to realize you're being lied to and manipulated to serve others' interests

Board being taken over by lefty/commies
"Nah senpai, Both extremes are fighting it out, most people here are neutral" -Infesting Lefty/commies

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Communism doesn't wo-

>Anti Communist Narrative

>graph showing the soviet economy nose diving and then recovering under a free market

you really are a fucking retard user.

Are you really blaming the collapse of the soviet economic system on capitalism?

Wow, I guess all those countries must be dominated by communist parties then!
Oh, wait...

Have you not seen the state of this thread? I have yet to see a single stormfag denying the holocaust or promoting far right ideology but several posters have literally denied all the negatives of communism.

Soviet figurs were BS.
The transition to capitalism was horribly mismanaged, I won't lie, but it's already far above what it used to be. You should've cut it off at '98 if you wanted to spout blatant propaganda.

lol
>communism failed so horribly that the hole it created took forever for a free market to fix!
>still think communism sucks?

>the soviet economy nose diving
Lmao, what a stupid fucking faggot. Literally kys

Veeky Forums is actually infested with people who demand a state that would brand its nation's history "imperialistic" and try to erase as much of it as possible under cultural revolution.
Let that sink in.

They're not, because Eastern European countries aren't democracies. They're dictatorships of the bourgeoisie.

>Veeky Forums is a monarchist board.
think again cuck

These pictures dont really say anything about communists or nazis, but they say it all about Americans. The biggest collection of soyboys on Earth regardless of ideology.

Did you really just argue that North Koreans are better off than South Koreans?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_North_Korea#Number_of_victims

That just sounds like communism minus the killings and starving of a host population

please actually go read about what perestroika was user. The whole reason the Reagan and Gorbachav were so buddy buddy was because Gorbachav NEEDED to end the cold war because they were fucking broke and coouldnt afford their military anymore

Underground rescue missions to help people escape North Korea and Koreans hunted down and killed for defecting from the state.
List off a bunch of 100% positive traits from a country whos only media exports are explicit propaganda.

That's what I meant, genius.

>Underground rescue missions to help people escape North Korea and Koreans hunted down and killed for defecting from the state.
Oh man, that's even worse than Saddam's WMD incubator genocide machines. Even worse than Assad's barrel bomb rape torture! Why won't anyone think of the poor Israelis?

>en.wikipedia.org
Nice

I know that's what you were told by your 4th grade teacher in elementary school. That doesn't mean it's true

>communist propaganda images are better sources than wikipedia where you can find their sources at the bottom of the page

This isnt an argument user. Posting graphs you dont even understand isnt impressive and now you just outed yourself as a shitposting kid from leftypol. Again, go do some research onto what Perestroika was

>The old system collapsed before the new one had time to begin working, and the crisis in the society became even more acute.-Gorbachev

The majority of Veeky Forums is closest to city-state republicanism.

>If you can't look at history objectively then you're probably still in high school or a manchild.
For the love of God man, please read "What is History?" by E.H. Carr. It's an introductory book to historiography which I think would go a long way to improving your understanding of historical discourse that you desperately need.

We even had a monarchy general back in the earliest days of the board.

Im in favor of autonomous hyper advanced city states, ruled over by an all powerful AI in a socialist system, just like that guy who said he was from the future said

As long as the AI isn't a Commie

>city
>state
>AI
>socialism
Literally all the things I hate in a single sentence.

the AI was a dictator who had a three strikes and your dead rule for any laws. But, at any time, you could choose to leave the city, and survive on your own in the wilderness.

fuck, I wish I remembered that guys name. He was some conspiracy theory guy who was either from the future, or he traveled to the future

nvm, found it

youtube.com/watch?v=O6cQF3MLQVc

Anprim Is a legitimate Ideology and I fully embrace it.

It's the "anarcho" part that troubles me. I want a primitivist dictatorship, not anarchy.