Why couldn't any one of these island chains become "Japan" instead of the actual Japan?

Why couldn't any one of these island chains become "Japan" instead of the actual Japan?

Because they're all jungle hellhole wastelands with thousands of ethnic groups living there

Also they’re all on big trade routes with lots of trade resources Europeans and others beforehand wanted, so foreigners always fucked with them. Through both polititics and some geography no one fucked with Japan till the 1850s.

1868 Meiji Revolution did Japon started development politics furthered by government. This was the big diference and its did Japan an indutrial nation instead of a colony as happened with China

>Tropical Japan paradise

Slow down

Are you trying to outdo God?

Because they wont exterminate these things for some unknown reason.

Because they weren't united and so the Dutch picked them off one by one over the course of 250 years. Nobody really cared about Japan enough to put in the effort of conquering the place before the 19th century.

Too much foreign influence. Japan was insulated from foreign involvement until relatively late in its history.

Then, they were equally promising prior to the 18th century?

Try 16th century.

For some reason no one has stated the obvious answer. IQ. The people of Japan have a higher biological IQ than these Melanesian Negrito mixed fuckers.

They were never equally promising because the two areas had completely different institutions. You can't just point at every chain of islands and act like it should follow a similar history. The last time large swaths of Indonesia were united was under the Majapahit in the early 15th century. The relationships between the numerous states or Indonesia has never been like the relationship between the numerous Daimyo's of Japan. On top of this, Indonesia has always been a more enticing venture to Europeans than Japan. Japan benefited from lack of foreign interest which allowed it to be left alone for so long. Indonesians didn't have that luxury.

That's why Singapore has one of the highest GPD per capita in the world, like top 3 or top 5.

The levels of racist biological determinism here are just getting off the charts the last few weeks.

Except IQ didn't save the Chinese. Or the Japanese themselves for that matter.

>That's why Singapore has one of the highest GPD per capita in the world, like top 3 or top 5.
Chinks aren't mixed with Melanesians.

>projecting your anti-Black hate to some completely different population with no genetic relation.

Whats your issue?

You’re a fucking moron

The southern Chinese only exist because of admixture

The majority of Singaporeans arrived from China within the last 100 years.

Hokkien and Min Chinese are not nearly as mixed as Cantonese (who are not the majority of Singaporeans IIRC).

Hundreds of minor ethnic groups, thousands of languages/dialects, tropical geography being less conducive to a strong infrastructure. No unified religion. Once Europeans found the area they were fucked by important trade routes.

Hindus spread out to the Indonesian islands and had a good foothold, stagnated, knocked down a peg by mongol invaders, Majapahit forms, religion of peace comes to save the day, Europeans arrive, now its a colony.

China is the real Japan

There was the Buddhist kingdoms for a while but Japan had Siberia, Manchu(steppe), China, and Korean peninsula through which trade could bring innovation and progress, and the island itself relatively enough secluded to build an empire on it, and avoid invasion/assimilation. Meanwhile SEA had the jungles of unorganized zomia, PNG mountaneers, the scattered polynesians, himalayas and aboriginals. Japan could also feel the immagatory flux's of Ainu and jomon bringing with them tech like cannabis, agriculture/farming and corded ware) easily (relatively) more accessible then SEA from the middle/cradle of the world. As the sea level rose you were left with abundance of natural resources in the ocean at that location where SEA is more of a natural shithole/not right place for all these factors mentioned to produce abundance and thus the level of civilisation it achieved at its peak (see peak Japanese empire extent ww2)

Monsoon doesn't help things either. Agriculture isn't as easy in a tropical wet/dry climate than a temperate seasonal climate. In other words there's a lot of good reasons why rainforests don't produce powerful nations.

Also being a bunch of islands means that in this age you basically have Japan's Island problems times whatever number of islands you have.

IQ is an incredibly crude metric for intelligence.
It's like trying to use grip strength as a singular guide for overall athleticism

so if grip strength is intelligence then overall athleticism is __?

>High literacy
>Mostly centralized government
>Out of reach for colonial powers
>An existential threat made apparent to the entire country in the form of the Perry Expedition
Japan had all of these and Southeast Asia (with the exception of Thailand) didn't. It has nothing to do with inane bullshit like IQ scores and racial makeup.

Save them from what?

McDonalds.

>The last time large swaths of Indonesia were united was under the Majapahit in the early 15th century.

Wasn't it just as vassals and not direct rule, anyway? IIRC the actual Majapahit territory didn't even include the whole of Java, and the last time they did try to unite Java it ended hilariously badly.

Themselves.

In the allegory, grip strength is equivalent to IQ, and overall athlecism to actual intelligence.

Do try and read something before replying to it.

He seems to have a weak grip, user

Must be genetic!

so its
grip str to overall athleticism
is to
intelligence is to actual intelligence

read something before replying to it?

read this you mouth breathing pseudo brainlet logical fallacy posting brainlet

or are we talking like Intelligence with a capital I?

Close proximity to the equator strikes again!

>The southern Chinese only exist because of admixture
They are admixed with Hmong Mien and Tai Kadai speakers who are definitely not Melanesians.

>Hokkien and Min Chinese are not nearly as mixed as Cantonese (who are not the majority of Singaporeans IIRC).
Fujian experienced an additional migration wave from the lower Yangtze while their natives were probably different as well.

Genetics.

There is significant evidence of a wave of migration from the Indo-Aryans into Japan. While this population was diffused into Chinese populations, it remained concentrated in Japan.

This is why they have developed.

There wasnt even a concept of philippines before they got colonized

That is absolutely bullshit

This is the obvious answer and by far the most important factor. To not admit this, you have to be a leftist rationalizing with all your power.

Because of Japan.

Among all of those, the Philippines was the most modernized and westernized part of Southeast Asia under 300 years of Spanish rule and intense modernization under US Rule.

In addition it was literally the first Asian democracy and had cordial relations with its ruling power- which even promised to Free it by 1946, in a time when other SEAsian nationalists were getting slaughtered. Except WWII fuckery happened and destroyed everything the Spics, Yanks, and Flips ever built and what's left is a third world shithole.

The entire 19th century

Well, I can say that it SURELY does not have to do with IQ. The fact that Japan has vastly higher IQ than most of these populations is entirely irrelevant. I mean, it is the greatest predictor for academic success and future earnings on a personal level, but just simply pay it no mind, because of fee-fees.

That last part's not entirely true. After the war the Philippines recovered quite quickly and were going tit for tat with Japan until Marcos came to power and fucked everything up.

See:
Also, there's no sense in comparing modern IQ statistics to a point in time in which IQ tests didn't even exist.

these places where all interconnected, japan was super isolated. very critical part of the development of japan.

Tbf Japan was completely BTFO hence Flips managed to be at level with them.

Furthermore Marcos was a symptom, not the cause. His generation is really filled with Old-Style Caudillo politicians who acted like feudal kings and pocketed public funds.