Veeky Forums I have to be honest: I don't understand masturbation

Veeky Forums I have to be honest: I don't understand masturbation.

I don't understand why/how the 10-15 second orgasm is something that ruins some peoples' lives. I don't understand how some people can fall into this "jerking off 3x a day" rut when it's literally like one minute of pleasure.

And most of all, how some meme bullshit like "nofap" is even necessary. All this over a few seconds of pleasure?

its the cycle.

its like habitual smoking, you just do it when triggered by something to use as an escapism.

You don't understand the pleasure because you have a circumcised dick.

Not that I defend fapping 3x per day. I usually do it 4-5times a week.

This is a pattern I'm noticing, the people who are the most sour about fapping are people who are circumcised.

shouldn't you get muscular arms from high intensity jerk offs?

>You don't understand the pleasure because you have a circumcised dick.

This meme needs to die

I find that busting nuts kills my drive to actually go out and be social, kills my instinct to get the pussy as well.

People who brag about not casually beating off are like people who brag about never taking drugs and alcohol, who the fuck really cares?

There's a couple reasons. First you have the perma-virgin NEETs who prefer to to jump on board anything that gives them an excuse for their failings that isn't "I'm an undesirable piece of shit with no prospects and no future"

In addition to this there's the americuck culture that anything sexual is inherently bad and must be excised.

Why?

Are you saying you know what fapping and sensation in general feels like with an intact dick?

Do you really think there is no difference wether or not you have a PART OF YOUR PENIS REMOVED?

You guys don't know how to use this shit to it's fullest potential.

>get mad horny after a good deadlift session
>nut like 4 times in one day after the gym
>begin doing that constantly
>now my refractory period is super low and I have tons of loads even on the 4th shot

I'm not complaining

Circumsized user here. I highly doubt it's that different and would argue that it hasn't affected my sex life in the slightest.

to be fair
has a valid point. Dr. Kellogg introduced americans to circumcism as

"Kellogg was a skilled surgeon, who often donated his services to indigent patients at his clinic.[10] Although generally against unnecessary surgery to treat diseases,[11][12] in his Plain Facts for Old And Young he advocated circumcision as a remedy for "local uncleanliness" (which he thought could lead to "unchastity"),[13] phimosis,[14] and "in small boys", masturbation.[15]"

I think nofap is great, it's given me the drive I needed to pursue women.

I do have a circumsized penis, but I feel like I get plenty of pleasure from it.

Now, I do use lotion (going dry literally stops everything), and rather than stroking my entire shaft I focus more on the head and frenulum.

It's kind of unfortunate, because when I try doing a normal stroking motion, it really doesn't do much and a lot of times my boner actually dies, but my head and frenulum (so the reverse side of the head which was connected to foreskin) is pretty sensitive and I cum pretty quickly, like 2-3 minutes.

But when I cum my heart races, legs tense up, involuntary moaning, it feels fantastic. I can't imagine it feels much better if I was uncut

>Are you saying you know what fapping and sensation in general feels like with an intact dick?

are you saying you know what it feels like with a circumcised dick?

great argument bro.

Maybe he has 2 dicks and has a circumcised and uncircumcised one

I actually didn't consider that, but I guess there have been a few cases of that. I want to believe.

>I highly doubt it's that different
Can you masturbate comfortably without lube or some kind of aid?

There are thousands of nerve endings in the part they cut off you know.

And I'm not saying that it would ruin someones sex life, because that is tightly a culture bound thing, but thinking that removing parts of your body is an improvement somehow is just a dumb thing that americans tend to say.

I got a really weird masturbation feel for you guys

>mid 20s never had a gf permavirgin
>usually cum pretty quick when i masturbate, like under 5 minutes (i dont try to make it last or edge or whatever, just want to cum)
>get some girls on kik or skype after they see my dick/cumming online
>literally have them masturbating in front of me on my camera on skype, moaning, fawning over my dick, etc
>sit there stroking for literally 20, 30 minutes, never cum, boner dies, etc

its ridiculous

Never ocurred to you that someone might have gone from uncircumcised to circumcised?

Great thinking buddy.

>Can you masturbate comfortably without lube or some kind of aid?

not that user but I can, being cut isn't all that bad it really depends how you work it.

Got a source of anyone who's done this?

Side node orgasms are great either way, sucks if it's worse circumcised but it's still great.

>Don't fap for 24 hrs
I don't really feel anything, infact I don't really even look forward to the next fap. Its like eating at that point.
>Don't fap for 3 days
Noticeable sensitivity and pleasure in my dick, really look forward to nutting. Also bigger load
>Don't fap for a week
Feel slightly anxious but not completely in a bad way, more like I feel like I need to do something. Maybe a slight boost in confidence?

That's just me, but personally I find that 3 days is the best. Exercise a little self control, and then treat yo self with a solid nut

I know that feel user, first time I had sex I didn't cum. Generally just did no fap for like a week and turned back how much porn I look at for a bit, insta-fix.

Or just jerk it when you feel like it. Who gives a fuck how much you cum if it's still your hand? Who wants to look forward to it? Do you faggots seriously plan this shit out in advance?

A paediatric Urologist surgeon once told me that they think one of the side effects of circumcision is that you have diminished pleasure from sex.
They had no way to prove it back then, but now they take biopsies of the glans from men who are circumcised vs those who are uncircumcised and found a lower number of receptors in circumcised people I comparison to uncircumcised.

Therefore objectively proving that circumcision leads to dimished sexual pleasure. Of course this is only at a local level, since if you never experienced being uncircumcised (since most are done at birth) then you never have anything to compare it to and subsequently don't care.

Also what wrong with fapping? It keeps my sex drive in check so I can go about lifting and studying without worrying about chasing after girls.

>"jerking off 3x a day"
is this supposed to be a lot?

Thanks for the input user, I am sorry this thread bugged you so much. Stay safe bb

Weird man, I'm uncircumcised and I have the opposite experience. I can't focus on my head because it's too uncomfortable. I think it's too sensitive, but I've only just started trying it so maybe it will get better. I've always been fapping dry, so when I've tried lube recently it feels really good for the first minute or two, then I start losing sensation. There's no way I can cum unless it's been several days since last time or I go really fast and hard, which kinda defeats the purpose of why I bought it in the first place.
Dry fapping I can stimulate the shaft and cum almost when I want to, but it doesn't translate to real sex or wearing a condom, so I want to cut down on this method because I don't think I'll feel anything at all if I get laid.

>I don't understand why/how the 10-15 second orgasm is something that ruins some peoples' lives
>I don't understand how some people can fall into this "jerking off 3x a day" rut when it's literally like one minute of pleasure.

How do you people fap? Do you just rub one out in a few minutes until you cum?
I haven't watched porn in a month or so and only fapped 1-2 per week since then, but when I was fapping every day, maybe multiple times a day and watching all kinds of fucked up porn, I would usually click around porn sites for hours until I just couldn't hold it back anymore and then cum buckets.

bump

This thread man. I stroke it out for about an hour before bed every day. I am cut and I don't use lube about 99% of the time. I edge and then I cum. The while thing is enjoyable; not just the orgasm.

Also, my skin slides easily over my shaft. A lot of times I pull it tight and just focus on levels. Masturbation is a skill but practice pays off.

Kegels, not levels. Fucking autocorrect.

I went 4 days one time. My balls hurt so bad. Then I nutted twice in a row.

I've only masturbated 2 times this month. I like the fullness feeling in my balls. Nofap is a good thing

Because it causes a habit which can lead to problems like death grip and getting instant gratification like this can mess with your body over time.

Try fapping with your other hand, awkward as fuck right?

i masturbate over 10 times a day and can stay hard for 10+ hours at a time. ask me anything

had plenty of sex
had relationsnips
Sure I enjoy the orgasm at the end of fapping but its mostly to clear my head of sexual thoughts, if i go 3 days its all i can think about and i am useless for any other task.

If you can only last 1 minute, OP why do you even give a shit. You're wasting 3 minutes a day. Big fucking deal. Not like you're jerking it for an hour 3 times a day and wasting 1/5 of your time.

If you're on Veeky Forums you're wasting time as well. What makes the time spent here any less of a waste. What makes spending time getting bigger muscles that you'll ever need a better use of time? You shouldn't even enjoy lifting weights if you're doing it correctly.

Fapping is as good a recreational activity as any. If you've got the free time, nobody should give a fuck how you spend it.

What are some of your hobbies, OP. I bet at least a couple are fucking stupid. Some people like to knit sweaters, make modern art, write godawful poetry, keep a lawn, etc. etc.. Don't tell me any of that shit is a superior use of time.

>I can't imagine
Yes, you can't.

Muscle raises your resting metabolic rate and makes you more healthy.

And I'm your brother and our dad works for Nintendo.

Cum contains a lot of nutrients, including vitamin C(for the purpose of protecting the semen), and is mostly made out of proteins. Dumping them away on a daily basis robs your body of these nutrients.
Not quite sure how it affects your testosterone levels, but if I had to guess, you have way less testosterone in your body if you have to regenerate semen and dump it on a daily basis. It probably keeps me from being able to grow a full fucking beard. In short, I'd cut fapping to once every 3 days or so. Gotta ejaculate, since sperm ages, but not too often that it robs your body of nutrients.

Just eat your cum. Problem solved.

I'm your secret brother and dad already gave me a Nintendo Switch with 100 games and you are not allowed to play it

The point isn't the amount of time idiot. It's that I don't get why masturbating is this huge thing when it's literally like just a few minutes

Like people doing no fap, embarrassed over masturbating, etc

>inb4
>everything below is opinion broscience from yours truly

I think it's a chemical change that happens. I looked into the whole non-porn thing and I found for the most part all the sites concluded it has a psycho stimuli by looking at women while getting the physical release of an orgasm is a bad rewiring of the brain. Also your body I think produces different chemicals when you stop fapping for awhile. My balls start to hurt I'm a lot more aggressive after couple days and have more energy but it only last for a week then I fap and it starts over again so moderation might be key I dunno though this is one /fitizen/'s opinion

Hahaha do you really know nothing about circumcision? It doesn't make masturbation painful you retard.

If you're against removing body parts, never go to the hair salon again.

Of course you get aggressive when your balls hurt

It's a dopamine release. But the release is just the cherry on top of the cake. Jerking off becomes addictive because it allows you to completely shift focus from all the bad shit in your life, in order to make yourself orgasm.

Jerking off gets you looking at hot naked ladies, which tricks your brain into thinking you're a stud, it's pleasurable, and your focus completely drifts from the monotony of the day to day.

It's not the physical aspect that's addicting, it's the mental one. It's the same reaosn why some people get addicted to weed, despite it having no real addictive properties.

Jerking off, like alcohol, drugs, video games, movies etc, is an escape. It's an escape that some people get dependent on, because it's an effective escape.

Yup, it's the fantasy element that's a problem.

I don't think anyone would be complaining about a change in how they feel if they were surrounded by women, having sex every day, instead of jacking off every day.