How will history remember him?

Normies will love him for being the first black president, like Catholics with JFK. Historians will remember that he doesn't nearly live up to the hype. Also like JFK.

Obama left US foreign policy burning in flames, even worse than Dubya. It will probably take decades to fix what he fucked up.

he was there, and he was the first "black" president, and then 500 years from now blacks will think he invented peanut butter

>year 3278
>"AY HOL UP, BUT DID YOU KNOW DA ANCIENT UNITED STATSIANS WERE BLACK?"
>"JUST LOOK AT DAY KING!"

Only the pleb was white, the elite was black.

no plz

>implying african americans will exist in 3278
at the rate things are currently going at they'll disappear before white people do.

He literally didn't but ok

quite fondly, i think. being book-ended by two ultra-dogshit presidents will go a loooooooooooong way for him.

not really too sure on the criticisms on his foreign policy. he had his fuck ups for sure, more than average, but nowhere remotely close to the colossal, lasting damage bush II did. even despite his fuck ups, obama pulled america's reputation out of the gutter for a time. of course that is all moot now that trump is speedily shooting past both obama and bush II's fuck ups combined.

As a president

>dude let’s further destabilize Syria and the rest of the Middle East lmao
>dude let’s drone strike sandniggers until the cows come home that probably won’t piss them off

>t. soyboy

If he was white he'd be remembered as Jimmy Carter pt 2

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fuck this makes so much sense

>even worse than Dubya

I don't know anything about presidents but for some reason I totally agree

Do we need a butch lesbian crybaby to read off a list of Trump's achievements for you?

>le sassy truth bomb
God you people need reeducation

t. 12 year old.

>even worse than Dubya
I'm no Obama apologist, but you'd have to be extremely deluded to believe this. George W. Bush's foreign policy literally involved invading a sovereign nation, capturing and executing its head of state; leaving over 100,000 dead in the process, all under false pretenses. I don't think Americans really get just how fucked up the Iraq War was. The US literally only got away with it because it was the US.

this

>mfw thirteen year-old's call 24-year-olds and ted neugent twelve-year-olds

That user was born after 9/11, he wouldn't even remember the Bush presidency except from drunken ramblings from his father-uncle.

>literally
>L I T E R A L L Y
What is it with you people?
Could you more definitively oust yourself as a redditor?

>Achievements
>Trump
Pick one and only one

Doubled the national debt in 8 years, took over 2 centuries to get it where he started from. He's a fast worker. Was overthrown in court more than any other president over the last century, thinking he was an emperor apparently. Started a war in Libya all on his own. No other president ever did that, but he did. Cops were being gunned down in the streets nearly every day for a while there, and he was inflaming the shooters saying the cops deserved it, and feasted those BLM fucks at the White House. You can go on and on. His AG was found in contempt of Congress, and may be indicted for crimes if this piss dossier scam turns out to have been pushed in violation of law. The economy was a disaster, and illegal immigration was welcomed.

He'll be forgotten soon, I suspect. Trump is writing out much of his emperor declarations, since they're not law but merely whim. The economy is showing signs of improving. Once people stop being butthurt they'll realize what an incompetent fool that guy was.

> Started a war in Libya all on his own. No other president ever did that, but he did.

Do you literally not know who George W Bush or Ronald Reagan are.

Do you literally now know that you're an idiot.

Sounds like a whole lot of sperging and not a bit of disproving anything I said.

Did you know that Reagan invaded Grenada without seeking congressional approval, therefore "starting a war all on his own".

Butthurt Trumplets out in force today

Grenada wasn't a war, there were US citizens at that university that that dictatorship took hostage. That was a British Commonwealth nation, by the way. Do you think the US went to war against the British?

This reads like someone who gets all his news from fox and infowars. How cucked can you be?

>25 year rule
I personally will remember him as black Bush Jr.

>not an argument, faggot

Not a war

> US troops overthrew the existing government of a nation, installed a new government in an operation that had US big army troops on foreign soil.

A war

> US provides logistical support including refueling, AWACS, and intelligence to allied countries. No BCT troops in the country.

It's hard to believe Trump has been in power for 25 years. The time really flies by, doesn't it?

Socialist version of Bush.

Watch him becomes a NBA star

I’m not saying Trump or Bush or Obama are poor presidents, but how many of our presidents can you objectively say are great? Depending on your POV they’re also all either great or horrible.

FDR is GOAT

Decent. Struggled some with foriegn policy, not reversing Bush's disatrous foreign policy ideas. Domestic policy was pretty good in my opnion but will depend on whos writing.

Personally I don't like him because he should of jailed all the fucking bankers. Dude was a bought and paid for patsy.

t. Guy whose family almost lost home when younger due to Jew Bankers trying their Jew tricks

mostly this

>grenada
>less than 60k
>a """""""""""country"""""""""""""

He will probably remembered for being the first black president, his handling of the 2008 crisis and the first president to extensively use drone strikes.

All of this, but also remember he created a situation for ISIS to explode, pulled troops out of Afghanistan to let the Taliban gain an edge while failing to negotiate a settlement with them, let Russia buttfuck Ukraine while taunting the US and supporting Assad creating a refugee crisis, let American manufacturing get outsourced to Mexico and China, who was also literally building islands to expand their territory into our allies, let North Korea develop nukes and missiles, made a horrible deal with Iran, failed to solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, failed to keep his promise to help the environment, created a healthcare system that harmed the people that needed it the most, taxes and borderline political corruption ran rampant, and all of this is okay because HEY GUYS HE’S BLACK while the problem of racism burned in his second term with race riots across the nation. Don’t forget he’s half white and not even truly African-American like other blacks as his family moved to America recently, not as slaves.

WDHMBT?

Heh

While he's nowhere near as bad as the fox news warriors say he is, I will say that far in the future he'll be remembered for being ineffectual and indecisive, despite his Charisma and well intentioned nature. He towed the middle of the line too much, not being anywhere near the radical reformer his supporters wanted and expected, nor being muslim commie terrorist this opposition thought he was. He didn't push hard enough on the things he wanted, and his unwillingness to deepend the US's entanglements oversea's only made worse the situations we were already balls deep into. He thought he could make everyone happy and made no one happy. He'll be remembered for this, for being very charismatic, for being the first black president, and for getting the ball started on health care reform.
t. two time Obama voter.

as a romaniafag, he is remembered quite nicely here.
Nothing significant besides being black, but he was pretty charismatic, and didn't fuck up too monumentally.

>look at their king
>not just looking at your average american today

unironically this

He decreased the deficit by 66% during his presidency. He did more to decrease US spending in relation to its income than any president since Eisenhower.

>charm
>charisma
this is literally every president after their term. it's just because he isn't a loudmouth and maintains your typical politician reservedness. his "charisma' will be long forgotten and he'll stand as nothing but the first black president and the one to deal with the 2008 recession, most likely he'll get the blame for the poor handling even though congress is at fault, but that's how it always is

The last president to try and maintain America's unipolar hegemony through canny geopolitics. Obama recognized the futility of endless adventurism in the Middle East that had been a sinkhole of blood and money for the last decade and avoided embroiling America into a new war in Syria and Iran.TPP and the Pivot to Asia were attempts to reorient the Pacific from China's growing influence back into US hegemony. Unfortunately sound geopolitical reasoning isn't always popular domestic policy and what would have been a smashing success for the US empire was extraordinarily unpopular domestically for social reasons.

No one can top invading a country, leaving the whole area completely destabilized on a lie. At least Obama pussyfoot around with airstrikes and shit, but no actual invasion and occupation forces

We can only hope he attempts to have a similar post-presidency philanthropy as Jimmy did (and still does).

That guy from Africa

The based black man who liberated millions of Africans and Arabs to be able to enter Europe which caused an explosion in innovation and prosperity.

His foreign policy will be remembered as being mostly okay. Nothing extraordinary but nothing really terrible either.

His domestic policy will be seen as being a lot more iffy. To give you an example of what I mean, he was all too willing to compromise and "triangulate" on health care, when the average American would have been more then happy with medicare for all if it had been sold to them well, but instead we get a lousy compromise that makes nobody really happy. The issue he does refuse to compromise on? Gun control and he hands the GOP and the NRA a victory when all the stuff he and the dems in congress proposed at the federal level was soundly defeated by a mix of repubs and other dems. There's other stuff that I could mention, but the above two things really stick out in my mind as being dumb.

Nice job Barry.

What a false equivalency

Did Reagan's invasion of Grenada destabilize the whole country and kill it's fucking leader?

>Republicans
WORST PRESIDENT SINCE EVER

>Democrats
BEST PRESIDENT SINCE EVER

>Neutrals
A voice of reason after 8 years of retardation

FDR was pretty great, but that was a much more unified, simpler time, when the President carried the bully pulpit and the media wasn't as splintered/partisan.

Don't forget FDR was unpopular numerous times during his administration, the New York Times even endorsed his rival for 2 out of his 4 elections.

A voice of reason means jack shit, he was competent at upholding the norms but as anyone who followed the 2016 election could tell, people were FED UP with the norms. Obama was personally popular and that's the only reason moderates/liberals liked him, he had almost no GENUINELY progressive policies

JFK didn't "LIVE up to the hype"

the first and last nigger president.

Eventually connections will be made between his actions and the rise of various SJW movements that created so much undue discord and divisiveness. His political grandstanding and maneuvers will be shown in the full light of backwards movement despite all of the opulent selling of progressivism.

He didn't prosecute a SINGLE banker/Wall Street executive after the financial crisis, cozied up to the banks, pretended to be "undecided" on gay marriage until he cynically said he supported it right before the 2012 election -- coincidence, eh? Oh and he DECIMATED his own party, pic related.

Ultimately, he was a shitty, inauthentic president who had enough charisma to be likeable for 8 years. His few accomplishments have and are being overturned.

>Obama recognized the futility of endless adventurism in the Middle East that had been a sinkhole of blood and money
KEK

TOP FUCKING KEK

damn this is the most btfo the dems have gotten since reconstruction

probably because white people are leaving the party en masse

He wasn't very liberal as you noted, but to the Republicans, he might as well be the MOST liberal president ever because he's black.

His policies revolve around rule of law, not rule of men. As a constitutional lawyer, he was upholding the rule of law but had some liberal streaks to it. Gays for example are now protected. Environmental protections were strengthened. The semi-state mandated health care is partially liberal policy. A full liberal policy would have been instead to expand the medicare to all. Still it was pushing the envelop a little towards liberalization.

Obama was fairly moderate and his policies reflect those moderate changes. Nothing really extreme one way or the other.

This is what I don't understand. He was moderate as hell and a middle of the road Democrat. I don't understand why he was treated as some sort of radical by a surprising number of Americans.

Moderate in all the wrong areas and extremely leftist in all the wrong areas. It made for a disastrous combination.

Where was he extremely leftist? I can't think of a single thing.

Don't know what you're laughing at. America's presence in the ME under the Obama adminstration has been deliberately winded down, heavy occupational involvement was transitioned to the lighter and more surgical style of Drone warfare.

After 8 years, the economy has been the strongest its been.

His only problem was he was too soft on Russia. The sanctions on Russia wasn't enough.

Obama currying the Chinese was the wrong foreign policy decision. It was wrong when Nixon opened the doors to China and its still wrong now.

Even the alt-right leader Bannon knows whats up. As I disagree with everything else on his point, China is the point he's right on. Its the biggest threat to democracy and the biggest threat to the US. Ignoring China or currying up China is just asking for trouble.

the nigger in chief ruined this country. my entire family used to vote democrat and now none of them do because of king nigger's anti white hatred.

Keep the /pol/ in check

when did democrats become such interventionist retards. this is why white people are leaving you, you've gone mad.

then stop sucking nigger dick reddit

>king nigger's anti white hatred

Literally what are you talking about?

a successful neoliberal president like JFK, Reagan, Clinton and Bush Jr. before the bizarro Trump era

He wanted single payer health care, but he knew it wasn't feasible and fucked up the entire system in a last ditch effort to force change. He wanted gay marriage to the point that he didn't give a fuck about religious rights (what's the stance of the ACLU on this, again?). He decided federal law was so important that he could choose to not enforce damned near any federal law he chose to the point of advancing precedent in executive powers. He moved the country further towards singular power than ever before, while restricting any state powers from states which dared to defy him.

Obama was super butthurt about british colonization of Kenya which is why he sent back the Churchill bust. Obama was not the president of America he was the MLK street and the nigger belt.

Mark-stone of Dystpoian future; Propagator of degeneracy; Savior of faggot marriage; Iginator of rapfugees; Champion of forced diversity; Political Corrected ruler of heavy self-righteous mentality.

Since the dawn of 20th century. Every president has been interventionist to a degree. American's rise to global superpower is determined by our interventionist policies.

>Bush Jr
>successful

>JFK
>successful

>this is why white people are leaving you, you've gone mad

If we're going based off of race, since the GOP has a greater portion of the white vote during the Bush era wouldn't that be completely wrong?

>Obama currying the Chinese was the wrong foreign policy decision
Obama didn't cozy up the China, his entire "Pivot to Asia" scheme was deliberately formulated to check the Rise of China and shore up American power in the Pacific.

I'm not a /pol/ack but you have to admit almost everything Obama did when it came to social issues alienated whites -- his embrace of BLM, ambiguity towards police violence, the transgender bathroom directive, championing a cosmopolitan/multicultural perspective that was more fit for Europe than America and its spirit of assimilation, self-reliance, etc. Oh and his 2nd Amendment challenges... boy did that piss off whites. I mean owning a gun is THE personal freedom that encapsulates America's frontier-like society. I genuinely don't think he realized the rage among the white working class that he created, although some of it was inevitable due to his race.