Mfw Ottoman royalty and aristocracy was white as evidenced from many portraits, because of circassian...

>mfw Ottoman royalty and aristocracy was white as evidenced from many portraits, because of circassian, Balkan and byzantine intermarriage

>mfw the janissaries, the military and bureaucratic elite of the ottoman empire was made up of caucasian and Balkan white converts and kidnapped
>mfw the mamelukes, a warrior caste that ruled egypt and parts of the middle east for almost 1000 years were largely white
>mfw baibars, the greatest islamic hero was a distinctly white circassian mameluke
>mfw most of the barbary states pirate leaders were white, f.e. the dutch and english converts and Barbarossa

Lmao

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All of a sudden these people qualify as white

Baibars is literally described as being blonde, tall with a white spec in one of his blue eyes, being very distinct from the swarthy gyppo populace over which h ruled with his mamelukes.

I wanna thank the kara boga poster for his endless memery, at last I truly see how subhuman nonwhites are, even throughout history.

Ataturk was white af as well now that I think of it.

Caucasians were reputed to be the highest standard of beauty. One of the reasons why caucasian became a racial term

You need to understand something right now. The Ottoman upper-class was literally not Turkish. They weren't Turks. They actually looked down on Turks.

The Ottoman upper-class was composed primarily of people who'd been born as Christians, and kidnapped at a very young age. These children were then given very specialized education designed to make them the most loyal subjects of the Sultan. The Sultan would rely on these people specifically because they had no connections to anybody besides him, and thus they were completely dependent on him. Thus, they could be depended on to be fiercely loyal. These were people who the Sultan trusted more than his own sons. Most of them were born in southeast Europe, the Balkans. Serbia, Bulgaria, Greece, Romania, etc.

>Caucasian variety – I have taken the name of this variety from Mount Caucasus, both because its neighborhood, and especially its southern slope, produces the most beautiful race of men, I mean the Georgian; and because all physiological reasons converge to this, that in that region, if anywhere, it seems we ought with the greatest probability to place the autochthones (original members) of mankind.
>–Johann Friedrich Blumenbach
lmao

Almost all Turks are/were white

Ladies and Gentlemen: the rightful King of England.

>As a sophisticated ruling class, the Ottomans looked down upon the Turkish peasantry, calling them Eşek Turk (the donkey Turk) and Kaba Turk (stupid Turk). Expressions like "Turk-head" and "Turk-person" were contemptuously used by Ottomans when they wanted to denigrate each other.[26][27][28] In the early modern period, an educated urban-dwelling Turkish-speaker who was not a member of the military-administrative class would refer to himself neither as an Osmanlı nor as a Türk, but rather as a Rūmī (رومى), or "Roman", meaning an inhabitant of the territory of the former Byzantine Empire in the Balkans and Anatolia. The term Rūmī was also used to refer to Turkish-speakers by the other Muslim peoples of the empire and beyond

Don't forget this guy:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abd-ar-Rahman_III

The first Caliph of Cordoba, great-grandson of the King of Pamplona, described as having "white skin, blue eyes."

The were Black Wh*Toid, KARA BOGA

Anatolian people like the 'Turks' (plus coastal Levantines like the Lebanese) have the same skin tone as southern Europeans (and are, genetically, fairly close to them). This was scientifically proven.

...

>Canadian natives.
>Same skin tone as Scandinavians.
Silliness

This sort of, the reason the ottomans started using kidnapped christian boys was because they wouldn't have any link to the anatolian turkish nobility so it would be harder for these nobles to cause trouble when the administrators were not linked to them in a way.
Also there were also sipahis which were the elite cavalry of the empire and these guys were turks ,when the jannisaries became corrupt and shit these motherfuckers are the ones that eventually massacred the lot.
Also mamelukes were a mix between turks and circassians most of them were turks though.
The amount of converted barbary corsairs were a tiny minority too only reason they have so much information on them is because they were seen as traitors by western europeans.
And finally even if the first ottoman bey was turkmen they started to view themself above races and only identified by religion and dynasty even though the language they spoke was persianized turkish.

>Also there were also sipahis which were the elite cavalry of the empire and these guys were turks
They were a mix of Anatolian and Rumelian Turks and non-Turks, with many being converted Christian aristocrats and some not even converts. Something like a third of the Sipahis were still Christian in the early 17th century, after which they were steadily converted and phased out.

That still makes the majority of them turks.

Shut up kaba T*rk. Esek t*rks like you are a disgusting race of brown peasant subhumans .

Shut the FUCK up, wh*Tey. We are BLACK men.

wtf im a muslim now

>predicted

when the white man wasn't such a pussy, no longer the case though

Ainu confirmed for whites?

>when you realise that the Turks never actually won and defeated the Byzzies

You know rich people tended to be light skinned due to never being under the sun, grab any sandnigger, give him a nice house from childhood and a comfy office job as an adult and you'll notice he won't look like toasted bread.

because all those London pakis have skin as white as snow and silky golden hair

b-but it's so sunny in London.

>WE WUZ
wh*Tes are fucking retarded

Also lolling at calling subhuman Greeks (Byzantines) wh*Te lmao they're Arabs. You have got to be extremely retarded to call Greeks white. Well, you're posting on /his so your IQ is low as fuck. You European subhumans will never understand. You're below subhumans. You're our harem women and boys. That's fucking all.

>wh*Te subhuman calling anyone "subhuman"

LOL fucking soyboy. I'd love to beat the shit out of you right fucking now. Who the fuck do you think you are LMAO. YOu're the only subhuman here.

>Byzaboo subhuman delusions

Let me remind you, low IQ, that we ruled your subhuman former Byzantine lands as the KHANS, PADISHAHS and SULTANS (main titles of Ottoman sultans), we kicked Greek and Armenian subhumans out of Anatolia and completely Turkified (and Kurdified sadly) Anatolia. Now no more than 2000 people speak Greek here. On top of that, religion is Hanafi Islam. We turned the biggest church of Byzantines into a mosque. How the fuck we didn't defeat Byzantines? Tell me, pseudo-Roman boo. Byzantines were not Roman yes. I'm more Roman than entire Byzantine Empire combined. That's how Roman Byzantines are. Or maybe is it because some subhuman >BALKAN >RAPEBABIES that didn't call themselves Turkish? Who the fuck cares? They're subhuman rapebabies. We're better off without subhuman rapebabies. Because we crushed subhuman Balkanrapebabies. Balkanrapebabies are still anally asshurt about us because they're subhuman rapebabies that got raped by us. They have no history other than Turkish slavery.

We're not close to Southern Europeans. Southern Europeans are moor rapebabies anyway. Not white

You European subhumans disgust me. There's a reason why we're genociding your kind in Europe with Pakis, Afghans and Blacks. You pale pimpy dicks disgust us. I hope we start the white genocide next year so that I won't have to read low IQ wewuzzing on his.

Wew.

Please commit soduko

ok man all we need is the we are secretly all nords and not from africa posts next

>muh rapebabies

>being mad online

The Turks in Anatolia were/are also mixed with Persians, Arabs and Anatolians.

Quality post

Butthurt

It's true that in the oriental empires, most of the elite military caste was made of europeans ; But the military isn't the sole function in empires. It is just a weird kind of specialization that happened because of a number of reasons. Just like the majority of the clerics were arabs, the majority of scientists were persians, etc.

Yes, Europeans are great warriors. Usually the Ottoman aristocracy was a bunch of pampered, sissified hedonistic homosexuals who needed Europeans to actually lead their armies and fight their wars. Sometimes the Europeans had enough being bossed around by a pack of trannies so they ended up uprooting them. Osman II was imprisoned and killed by his own Janissary subjects for example.
Also it's important to note that after the Ottocucks got rid of the Janissaries, their military became total shit for a century, pretty much until Ataturk who once again was European.

is this why we conquered Europe lol
>wh*Te subhuman delusions
also behind every Ottoman defeat, there's a low IQ balkanrapebaby commander. See: Siege of Wien

Dont feed the ottoboo troll. He is a roach who tries to prove he shouldn't be considered a roach for like weeks now.

How does it feel being commanded and rape by "low iq" christian rapebabes? You are so useless you need "low iq rapebabies" to command you.

Those sissified pampered faggots were the europeana you faggot.
While they were fucking eachother in the ass the turkish sipahis were actually still loyal to the throne living normal lifes in their village.
Fcking one of the reasons the ottoman empire fell was because cucky sultans couldn't contain the slavshit degeneracy which enabled the jannisaries to become corrupt traitorous niggers.
Whenever the sultans tried to reform the jannisaries would go against it even dethroning sultans from time to time.
Also when the jannisaries fucked off the ottoman army actually managed to get a semblance of discipline going.
Napoleon's french army even got halted in the levant by this new army.

>we conquered Europe
First, you didn't. Unless you think all of Europe is located in the Balkans.
Second, it wasn't "you" who conquered the Balkans. It was the Europeans in your ranks while you were busy combing your ass hair and having sex with little boys.

They literally became turks but slavshit genes are appearantly too shitty to do anything productive with.

>Sultans were such bitches they got cucked by their own slaves, and repeatedly

The more european the sultans genetically became the more cucky the became.

modern western countries all have mediterranean elits (jews, italians etc)

Aside from Napoleon where for the love of fuck did the Italians constitute the elite?

>the rulers were Europeans
>the warriors were Europeans
>the clerks and the chroniclers were Europeans
Who were the actual Turks then? I guess the peasant rabble.

You know that jannisaries were a minority in the army right?
A overrated minority at that.

>typing all of this in English
>he doesn't even realize whites won a long time ago

Get angloed faggot, you're living in a white mans world

Your ancestors were shoveling horse manure for their European Ottoman overlords, why should I give a fuck about what you have to say?

Why would they when they were riding the horses and the european's women.

Have fun with pakis speaking english in london user.

They were attending to the horses while their lords were riding their wives.

Sipahis and akincis were turks and they were the cavalry while the european jannisaries would be fighting on foot like cannonfodder.

If so then /pol/ should quit bitching about Islam since White Greatness is achievable under Muslim rule.

Wrong on both counts. The Ottoman Royalty and Aristocracy had a complicated relationship with Turkicness.

Generally, in everyday life, the Ottoman Aristocracy saw themselves as refined Muslim Gentlemen, with Persiaboo tendencies. As such, Persian was considered a court language and Classical Arabic the language of learning. Sure, the life of a Turkic was looked down upon as unsophisticated and even barbaric.

However in their capacity as military leaders, the Ottoman Aristocracy literally adopts every fucking Steppenigger military convention in their martial culture. This is seen in their preference for fighting as cavalrymen, their military dresses which largely retained the steppenigger cut, hairstyles like topknots typical of their Turkic forebears, and not to mention all the Central Asian descended weapons.

There's a reason why "Khagan" (Khan of Khans) is part of the list of titles an Ottoman Padishah has.

*sniffs*
Smells like rapebaby

Saved

ITT: wh*Te subhumans wewuzzing about how they were enslaved by TRUKs and ysed as nerds.
Lmao wh*te fucking monkeys. We conquered you, we beat the shit out of you, we raped you and here today you’re wewuzzing about how you were viziers and shieet :DDDD
You’re subhuman. We’re your masters. Deal with it.
I laugh at your attempts to wh*Tewash TURKs. We’re a much more noble people. Also, wh*Tewashing us won’t help your low fertility rates. We weill HANG YOU from LAPPOSTS. We will RUN OVER YOU with TRUCKS.

>so seething every other word is a typo
Go clean my stable peasant.

what book do you suggest on the ottomans

Muhammad was white too.
Quran describes him as white, while one of islamic traditions suggets that he was ginger

Ottomans were R1a-Z93 NORDICS.

nigga he's not even turkish

Turks =/= Turkic
Cumans were not turks

People of the Caucasus aren't white.

White = genetically European

Hot

Turks, balkanics and greeks are all shit tier compared to western europeans anyway

bump

>when you think real life is a video game: the image

>Ottoman royalty and aristocracy was white
correct. and not only the aristocracy. this fact extends to north africa, all of arabia and the levant, afghanistan, india and parts of pakistan.
all white.

Most of the Ottoman elite and also Egyptian dynasties were not just "white" as you claim, but even more specifically Albanian. The entire ruling dynasty of Egypt after Mohammad Ali was of Albanian descent. Many of the Ottoman Grand Viziers and Janissaries were Albanians and Greeks. Albania's national hero was a Janissary kidnapped from childhood, led a rebellion of other Albanian troops (which were about 80% of Ottoman elite troops), and marched to Albania where he led a resistance for about 40 years. Ataturk was also either fully or half-Albanian, being born to an Albanian family in Selanik. He was famous for being blonde haired and blue eyed.

Albanians ruled the Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years.

Ayy Lebanese Christian here. Rate me from 1 to Shitskin

you werent locked out of advancing the social ladder based on ethnicity, turks werent as numerous to start with and they conquered a bunch of different ppl

if anything its a multiculti empire so kind of the opposite of what you are trying to say polfag

>only sensible post in this thread gets ignored

I really hate this shitty board, you niggers aren't here to learn history only to jerk off to your ancestors whose descendants are getting replaced by literal niggers and arabs

Nigga if you speak a turkic language you are turkic its that easy turkics were never homogenous even back in the xiongnu days the turkics were mixed but shared a common culture and identity.
You /pol/niggers need to understand that genes are very low on the list when determining an ethnicity.

You look like a turk desu.

/ghoulcore/

he doesnt.
back to r/socialism

>if you speak a turkic language you are turkic
yes
>shared a common culture and identity
no

Indeed. And dont forget Ali pasha tepelena

Is there a more flexible meme group than white people? you get to deny or incorporate anyone with light skin as long as they fit your narrative
>1939: slavs are subhumans
>2018: turks are white
the absolute state of white identitarians

t. Butthurt brown peasant

>this thread

Veeky Forums is literally worse than /pol/

forensic anthropologists place you firmly in the caucasian category, meaning you're white.

Sorry for upsetting you Mehmet, now go back to tilling my fields.

I don't think you understand what this image is actually showing.

You mean they were mutts.