The hodomor isn't a genocide

The Ukrainians, and kulaks starved themselves by destroying crops and live stock. They then blamed the soviets even thought it was their own fault. There is no documented, or solid proof that it was intentional by the soviet state to starve out Ukraine. merely consequence of industrialization and collectivization and therefor not a intentional genocide.
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something that never happened cant be genocide

It never happened tho lol

That we have documentation proving that stalin knew there was a famine going on and millions dying, and we also have his orders doubling down on food requisition and preventing peasants from fleeing starving areas. I'm pretty sure if you take the food from someone who is already on the verge of starving due to your policies you're aware he's going to die, and are therefore killing him.

God tankies are just as bad as stormfags

>Have millions of people restrained in an area
>Accuse people of provoking the famine without any proof
Kind of like when Holocaust deniers attribute deaths in the camps to Allied bombing of the supply lines.

Horseshoe theory is real.

Tfw you kill millions of your own people.

There is more than a few accounts of Kulaks burning crops, and killing live stock in response to collectivization. Which the shortages caused by this forced the soviets to invent Kriza and other synthetic materials.

Then stop taking other people’s shit?

>the Jews are revolting against the forced government actions against them and us taking their shit.
>well I really guess they deserve to die now.

Taking kulak and replacing it with Jews would make you a Nazi. Wow I guess Horseshoe theory is real after all.

Those aren't the same thing at all, and destroying supply lines makes it pretty damn hard to feed people or provide medical care.

Ukrainians tried to destroy the Revolution. They deserved everything that came after. Vae victis

>own land and be a good farmer
>Jewish commissar comes and tells you to give it all away for "the people"
>refuse
>get killed
>80 years later faggot communists on Veeky Forums deny the biggest genocide in your country's history

Can't starve a country, if they aren't a county

Too bad there's no evidence at all that any bombing of supply lines prevented germans from carrying food to concentration camps.

What accounts?

And commies' unproven scenario of kulaks burning food would make it hard to feed people. What's your point?

>your country suffers a genocide
>people try to make it known and refute tankies
>80 years later faggot neonazis on Veeky Forums mix it with DA JOOS conspiracy making it look like a retarded conspiracy theory

read the "Russian revolution 1891-1991 by Orland Figgs". Sources are stated in there. Also The Soviet Colossus

>people are born in a state that allows pic related
>starvation exists
>food prices exist
>food prices are rising

CORPORATIONS ARE STALINIST

MADE BY NEOLIBERAL GANG

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Communism is a murderous ideology that kills millions.

This. holy fuck communists are so thick.

>they starved themselves guys! it just LOOKS like we starved them!

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Ah, just when it's been a day or so since the last "Holocaust denier stormtards get BTFO" thread, I guess it's time for a chance of pace and we're gonna have a "Holodomor denier tankies get BTFO" thread.

What’s it like literally being a joke.

holodomor didn't happen but I wish it did
imagine world without Ukraine
>no racism
>no hate
>no poverty
>no famine

no you give him the fucking sources you dumb tankie fuck

>Ukrainians, and kulaks

>Know there is a famine
>Take all the collectivized food stocks and sell them to ebil poky westerners
>Know people are dying and trying to flee in search for more food
>Forcefully prevent them in doing so
>Do nothing to help them in any way and let them starve to death
>"t-totaly not a genocide"
Tankies and stormfags need to be dropped into boiled cesspool of shit that they are so much obsessed about. One day...

i too learn history from Tintin comicses
show literally a single proof of Soviet government causing the famine somehow

But they are.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Soviet_Socialist_Republic

ok post the documentation

>Hodomor

Is that the name for the famine that killed off Soviet prostitutes?

>Ukraine is a real country

problem is, to prevent the communists from getting "your" stuff, you have to basically commit collective suicide, because you'll have to destroy all of it.

people were cooperating in the cities, and they weren't going to let those good people starve, might as well be the farmers that are resisting.

I recommend that people read the works of Walter Duranty. There was no genocide (or mass starvation for that matter). The people who propegate the myth of the holodomor are either fascists who want to distract attention from their own crimes or revisionists who want to discredit the Soviet Union.

Even Soviet records admit mass starvation; I could pull up meetings of the politburo to show that they were aware of it. However, those meetings do show that there wasn't genocidal (or for that matter, any other kind of) intent.

The life of a single kulak was worth more than the lives of all westerners put together