Can someone tell me what the point of pole dancing is? Is it a workout or stripper bait or something like ballet?

Can someone tell me what the point of pole dancing is? Is it a workout or stripper bait or something like ballet?

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attention whoring

Idk brah but when I got tootsies and I see a bitch naked pole dancing with some Gucci Mane playing i
I start making it rain on a bitch.

I exclusively fuck strippers.

This famm
When I go to cheetah and black Beatles starts playing I break my wrist on a hoe

Don't underestimate it man that shit is hard as fuck.

Every time I go to the strip club and get really cool with a stripper I end up falling in love with her. What the fuck do I do?

Degenerate or nonwhite if nonwhite keep on going if white fix urself up

Agreed, shit is insanely tough. Just look how ripped that girl is in OP's vid.

Bitches who poledance can also literally pulverize your dick in one thrust during sex, so don't mess with them. The ones who've done it for years are almost olympic-level athletes.

It's a low class attention whoring version of gymnastics/acrobatics

It's legit exercise but I have no respect for most of the sluts who do it

You're not supposed to respect them just fuck them stupid.

I love how the entire video is just her thrusting her cootch at us. She knows her priorities, and probably sucked off the cameraman real hard after he filmed this.

its a "workout"
bullshit

well, first it started with strippers trying to seduce men, where the pole was the obvious substitution for the penis

then, stronk wimmen were really progressive and liberal and thought "those god damn men! lets start poledancing on our own, and act like its fun and a good workout, and they wont have fun anymore because it will be a symbol for strong women and not for patriarchy and oppression!!!!!!!", then they started fucking poledancing because these dumb bitches really think men get off of oppressing them instead of looking at their tits and ass jumping up and down a stick.

then they convinced a few other women to do it too so now it kind of is an alternate sport or whatever.

who the fuck cares

It's basically callisthenics and cardio for trashy attention whoring chicks.

1.It's hot as fuck and the legit stuff is older then circus acrobatics. It's also a legit workout.

2.It lets women get fit and be slutty and get sexy and not feel bad about it. Something that all women should be able to do.


To be honest, the only people who're against it are out of shape prudes, loser chicks who can't do it and queers. Lot of queers.
The irony is that the people who're against it are the same kind of people who were easily talked into the slutwalk.

>imblying you wouldn't all smash any of these chicks

I bet they are stronger than 90% of you

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>Every time I go to the strip club and get really cool with a stripper I end up falling in love with her.

I thought this was just me. I feel you user.

They're so beautiful

It's just a way for women to justify their sluttiness.

Show me a girl who's into pole dancing that isn't regularly taking new cocks and sucking them.

You won't.

WAKE ME UP

how come males dont do any nude pole dancing?

imaging them spreading their harry bitch legs wide open and having their dick flop all around everywhere

>male strippers
>hairy

..... pick one .....

I like men and men taking their clothes off but strippers, gogo dancers, etc. are so unhot. I don't know what's wrong with me.

I know there's a stigma against strippers, but I want to fuck every single one of these women so bad.

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My personal favorite, not even a pole dance but I wouldn't even mind eating out of her ass:

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Why are all these women so gorgeous?

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would wife/10

There's a stigma against strippers from women who hate them for their looks and guys who could never land one. You got the financial means and/or charm to get them off the pole and into your life? I say go for it, and fuck the haters.

A more athletic example
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It's pretty stupid, but hey, so is shit like figure skating or zumba dancing.

I'd say it's sort of the female equivalent of martial arts, as if any guy doing that is actually going to need it, it's just fun and ego boosting to be able to do it.
Obviously women do martial arts too, but you know what I mean.

Whew lad. Thankee. Never realized how much I liked that shit. Fucking we chosen music.

So, uh, who are some pole dancers to look out for?

>There's a stigma against strippers from women who hate them for their looks and guys who could never land one
This is sadly true
Imagine a world where women didnt hate on eachother for being slutty, or more specifically where uglier girls didnt slutshame the girls who actually do get male attention

Dating would be a whole other game, sex on the first date wouldnt be a problem then

Why not both?
It's an efficient stripper bait, but it's also a non-efficient workout. If you want an efficient workout in the same vein (but non-sexy), do some gymnastics.
A bit like crossfit, those that excel at it train in a complete different way (as athletes), and then a bit specifically for the 'event'.

Grill here
Mainly lifts weights but started Pole dancing once a week for fitness reasons. Used to do martial arts but got too many injuries over the years and decided to quit. I wanted to improve flexibility, endurance and body strength again in a fun way, rather than only lifting weights and add bodyweight exercises. Shit is hard but fun and contrary to your believes I'm neither a slut or an attention seeking whore. I hate cardio/yoga/pilates and found Pole dancing to be a fun middle ground. Basically 0 part of the beginner classes are grinding or humping the floor but climbing, inverting, building strength, spinning etc. Pole dancing originates in Chinese Pole, an acrobatic sport men competed in.

>Pole dancing originates in Chinese Pole, an acrobatic sport men competed in.

Holy shit, look at the little fucker go!
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>that music

I feel like i'm about to go on a pokemon adventure

A lot of ex gymnasts and ballerina go into it. I want it to be an olympic sport as it is already a competitive thing where removing articles of clothing will often get you disqualified. It's more about acrobatic gymnastics that just happens to involve a vertical pole. Some of it can be very beautiful and some of it is just a raw display of strength.

You have to remember pole dancing is a descendent of Chinese Pole (mostly men at the circu) and Pole Mallakhamb (all-male wrestling training on a wooden pole incorporating yoga movements)

Grills

(this girl is insane. Fearless, powerful and crazy flexible)
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You guys will love this dude

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Mr steal yo girl

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Why can't women not be honest about this shit? Its appealing because you like to feel sexy and desired and maybe even a bit like you are partaking in a tabboo. Not because Chinese acrobats also do things with poles. Though that's an additional appeal: you can defend it and correct people all the time as well.

Its like the Cards Against Humanity of "fitness".

>Its appealing because you like to feel sexy and desired
To be fair mate, 95% of women are desired and get drooled over by men if they go out the front door or post a picture/comment online
pretty sure they dont need to pole dance for this

My ex re-followed me on instagram after I broke up with her 3 years ago and all she uploads now is Pole fitness vids.
I don't know how to feel about this

Different people do shit for different reasons. Now that I've seen that Chinese shit, I almost wanna take it up myself, that was awesome.
And sure, most classes would probably be hen-night tier since that's the demo to appeal to, but heaps of commercial fitness classes are hockey and wrong in one way or another, you've just gotta find the good shit.

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Its not based on Chinese acrobatics in any way. It is based on stripper pole dancing.

If youbwant to take Chinese acrobatics then find a class for that.

LOOK AT THIS FUCKIN SPIDERMAN SHIT
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Bless this thread for brining this to my attention

You must go to some fucking athletic strip clubs.
Have fun believing everything women do is a grab for your dick, I'll just keep enjoying these spiderman vids.

Yes, there is a Chinese "pole dancing" which is more acrobatic and male-based.

But they don't fucking make sexual gestures or grind on the pole.

Not related in anyway to what we know as pole-dancing.

Not EVERYTHING women do with their bodies is about pleasing you. I'm no prude and I like to feel sexy sometimes but pole dance is one of those things where I like to keep sex FAR FAR AWAY from it, so people can appreciate the dance and gymnastics side of it, because it is completely invalidated by people with one-track minds. It is physically challenging and it is art, but there are definitely two kinds of pole dancing out there: the stripper kind which makes me cringe and the athletic, balletic kind which is as amazing to watch as other aerial arts like lyra, silks, trapeze etc.

Back in the day people thought ballet was vulgar because of all the stratching and legs on show but now people wouldn't dream of trying to sexualise it. It's all about being an objective observer I'm extremely attracted to other women and have a higher sex drive than most, but I'm not thinking about tits and ass when women are doing awesome pole tricks because its not about that, it's about their skill. It just fucking sucks that no one will acknowledge that skill because they're thinking with their boners.

No ass. Absolutely Haram.

>Not EVERYTHING women do with their bodies is about pleasing you
No but most of the things you girls do seems to be about getting attention and fucking with guys minds for some reason, i cant really figure out why

I'm not saying women don't take it on to feel sexy. Plenty of women in my class probably are and I think that's fine, my goal isn't better or worse than theirs. But yes, Im not against getting some graceful Gains either cause that's where I fall short compared to strength.

Pole-dancing is fucking cardio lmao

I cringe when I see that shit (or stripper heels) that's why I mostly watch IPSF or Poleranking vids which are athletically focused.

Chinese pole is a separate art form but a lot of moves are borrowed from it, even if there is usually no rotation or contortion around the pole and more of a display of upper body strength.

>The stripper kind that makes me cringe

Yet again showing your true feelings. Why does it make you cringe if someone enjoys that? You seem to think I was against the activity. I'm not, I'm against pretenses.

We get it, you are a warrior on a quest to show the world how amazing pole dancing can be and won't let those disgusting strippers (who have been doing this far longer then you and with very high skill levels) stand in your way by giving yourbnew breed of pole dancing (sorry, I mean ancient chinese lost art) a bad name.

We are all just to dumb to see the athleticism because of our boners, after all. Please fix us.

Exactly, they're two different things. There's stripper pole dancing, and athletic pole dancing. Some people do the former, some do the latter. To say that any and every woman who engages in it must be doing the former is retarded.

>but now people wouldn't dream of trying to sexualise it
I have several gb of ballerina porn that says otherwise

Poledancing is for whores and fags

I think that's actually all in your head. You're the ones who make us out to be some unintelligable alien species and not human beings. We don't spend all day thinking of ways to trick you or fuck you over. You read a lot of weird shit into things we do, yet freak out/tell us we're lying/call us sluts when we ARE clearly trying to compliment you or reassure you that we're not only interested in Chad. You WANT to believe we all hate you.

Oh god, it's a fucking MGTOW

It's very athletic.

You'll see neckbeards above bitching about it because it's mostly women doing it and let's face it Veeky Forums is bitter as fuck when it comes to anything related to women but will beg for attention when tripcunts come on the board.

So funny coming from a bunch of dickless idiots that GOMAD and can't do 5 proper bodyweight pullups.

Underated post.

Ah c'mon, it was funny and true in cases like this.

>very athletic
Lol. It's literally just shining a pole between your buttocks. Just accept it as the laughing stock it is, just like cheerleading.

Can we all just agree that sexualised athleticism looks ridiculous?

It's not a pretence though. There is nothing wrong with women being sexy. Hell, I post plenty of pics of myself online and love lingerie, burlesque, sexy costumes etc, but I'm pointing out there is a form of pole dance that is NOT about sex and I hate that the tiniest suggestion of something sexy will distract male viewers, confirming their belief that it is all an elaborate veiling of a woman's desire to whore herself out. There are plenty of avenues for that, but there are two very distinct kinds of pole dancing out there and I would fucking love it if the kind that DOES NOT rely on sex appeal got some appreciation as a sport, because it literally is acrobatic gymnastics with a vertical beam.

Do you this before or after your hula hoop classess? And when do you find time to defend pole dancing as a sport when you already have to explain how hula hooping is an ancient art to people?

>Hell, I post plenty of pics of myself online and love lingerie, burlesque, sexy costumes etc

Don't tell us, SHOW us.

>Burlesque
>Posting lingerie pictures online
>Vehemently trying to shame men for finding pole dancing inherently sexy for some reason. As if it matters in any way.

Do you also do roller derby?

Are you this chick?

>You seem to think I was against the activity.

>bitches about presumptions
>proceeds to go on a Freudian rant about something that was clarified in a subsequent post

What?

>tfw no brazillian doctor gf

Fuck these low test faggots.
You do you grill. They are just projecting their ex-girlfriends onto you and treating you as such.

>sexualised athleticism looks ridiculous?
no

No.

>just like cheerleading.
As ridiculous as it is, you can't deny that pro cheerleading exists independently of actually having a team to cheer for, and that it requires a decent amount of athleticism.
I have no fucking idea WHY it exists, but there you go.

Well fine, fuck you

As a legit exercise, it's actually hard. Too bad it's associated with whores and doing shitty exercises on it. If you can do a human flag and hold it for at least 30 seconds on a pole, then you are a monster who deserves admiration. You never see whores do that. Instead, you see them spinning around it.

You can't say "I never actually said I was against it" and go on for a paragraph about how she's apparently so against it when she never actually said it either.

I have alot of problems with things girls do, like girls who are taken and overtly flirt with other guys
There is a girl this summer who was known for flirting, first thing she said to me when she met me was "Oh, a new guy i want to flirt with him" (she was drunk so cut her slack on the autism) and the point is every guy knows she has a boyfriend at home

Im not calling girls sluts and i certainly dont freak out but you do things that are very, very perplexing from time to time.

Im not some autistic Elliot who thinks girls owe guys things and whatnot but i do think simple honestly is a common courtesy you rarely afford guys such as simply saying "Sorry, im not interested in you"

I dont think youre all evil or hate guys, i just think you are strange and function way diffrently from how a guy works

She specifically said it "makes her cringe" when she sees it.

Kek so much delusion in one post

Well yeah, as a sport it is pathetic. It's literally based around praising men on their own REAL sport. There's nothing wrong with praising men but it's not something to take seriously as a sport.

Someone please find and post the sluttiest, trashiest, sexiest pole dance so we can shut up this "Chinese men acrobatics" bitch.

But it isn't.I'd love to see you try the routines posted here Oh yes, cheerleading is so easy. They're all Dallas Cowboys girls aka glorified strippers (not to say SOME of them don't have a more legitimate background in gymnastics or all-star cheer)

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If they are so talented, why aren't they in a respectable sport like gymnastics? Because they are whores, that's why.

Look no further than bars advertising their strippers.

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All these chicks are actually extremely good at poll dancing, but they don't pretend for a second that it's anything more than touchless foreplay.

You've seen me in the cbt thread plenty of times. I need validation because of past eating disorders/dysmorphia/bullying throughout school

Nah, my knees are too fucked for that, but I always wondered how most of the girls are so fat

.All star cheerleading is a slightly lower tier of acrobatic gymnastics. They just have more catchers,less flyers stacked on top of eachother (2 people max) slightly less flexibility and have to rush to cram more moves into a short timeframe, so the final product is usually not as polished, but essentially they are doing the same shit.

>All these chicks are actually extremely good at poll dancing

Not seeing it from those videos, if anything it looks like they're seconds away from giving head off-camera to the guys they were with.

>i just think you are strange and function way diffrently from how a guy works
Which is autismal as fuck.
Flirting is fun. Lots of men and women are big flirts, and not ALL women are.
The fact that you're seeing a woman calmly explaining how her experience doesn't align with your expectations, and your first instinct is to dismiss it as lies because she's a woman and they're another species, is the autism level of a retarded 14 year old.

>simple honestly is a common courtesy you rarely afford guys such as simply saying "Sorry, im not interested in you"
This is a completely unrelated point, and the fact that you're bringing it up because there's a woman here shows what a retard you are.
But whatever, I'll bite anyway. Yeah, women are often pussies about this. Guys have to take action in order to ask someone out, it's something they NEED to learn. Girls don't need to learn how to turn a guy down, because if they just ignore it, it eventually goes away. Some women do it because they're lazy, some are just still learning.
There can also be factors such as fear for their safety if it's a stranger.
But honestly, a shit load of the time, the men who complain about this kind of thing are too pussy themselves to actually risk rejection. They just drop hints and expect her to let them know if she's interested without ever officially asking her out. And yeah, 9 times out of 10 she knows, but if she takes the initiative to tell you she's not interested, all his embarrassed ass has to do is call her an egomaniac for thinking he was.

Anyway, my point is, the femanon ITT is not an official representative of womankind. The average pole dancing woman is probably doing the stripper kind to feel sexy, but that doesn't mean that's what any given woman is doing.
It's all well and got to think men and women function a little differently, but to project it onto people on an individual level is fucking stupid and makes you look like a retard.

But why do people see gymnastics on the floor/beam as 'respectable' but literal gymnastics on a vertical steel apparatus suddenly makes the same moves slutty? it it because you can't look at a pole without thinking about your dick? It is just an apparatus. Many gymnasts do both because it is fun and allows a whole new range of movement/tricks.

Was a ballerina. Got all fucked up in a car accident and tried something different

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Gibson

But like I said, ballet was once thought not to be 'respectable' until the majority of the audience learned to focus on the artistry and not on the vaginas.

So fucking what? Seeing people making out makes me cringe, doesn't mean I think they shouldn't do it, doesn't mean I won't myself.
Rom-coms are pretty cringey to me, but power to my friends that enjoy them and the people who build careers making them.

>But like I said, ballet was once thought not to be 'respectable' until the majority of the audience learned to focus on the artistry and not on the vaginas.

Kids can do ballet. But try having them pole dance without it attracting pedos.

>chinese sport
>not hammered into kids for 18 hours a day while they're still a foetus

No sir, we don't tolerate that in 'Murica!

>your first instinct is to dismiss it as lies because she's a woman and they're another species
I didnt call her a liar and i said girls function diffrently from guys and they do.
If a guy was given the same level of attention as a decently attractive women was given for a weekend that guy would probably have sex with every girl who approached him to mention just one thing off the top of my mind
Biology sets us apart, we function diffrently


>This is a completely unrelated point, and the fact that you're bringing it up because there's a woman here shows what a retard you are.
Careful now white knight, youre not impressing anyone
It was in relation to how girls act diffrently from guys and her saying that we read into alot of the things girls do.
My point with this was that we pretty much have to because we arent getting straight replies, we get jerked around and have to guess what everything means

Some guys handle rejection poorly but most girls are pretty shit at dealing it out, most simply ghost a guy and refuse to even give a reply

Im not treating her like she is representative of all womankind, i told her alot of the things girl do are seemingly about getting attention and fucking with guys heads which i stand by. Maybe she doesnt do it but alot of girls actually do

maybe you should read up and come up with better insults than retard before you try to white knight? retard isnt that creative of an insult to begin with and yove used it alot in one fucking post.
Now im sure you have a bull to prep so i wont keep you, off you go

Nope, they can pole dance with the strength and flexibility of some of the best gymnasts:

youtube.com/watch?v=e-oilEfrzT4
youtube.com/watch?v=-qTATmdxbag

But they know it's sex.

>I didnt call her a liar

>Why can't women not be honest about this shit?

Fuck no

Simple. Very rarely will you walk into a strip club and see women doing sexy shit naked on horizontal gymnastic poles.

If strip clubs around the country started having women doing sexy dances and movements while weight lifting. You better believe guys would equate all female lifters into being attention whores.

Some women who are strippers probably like to read too, does that mean reading is a stripper sport?
Shock horror, a girl who dances on a pole for a living in a world where athletic pole dancing became a fad wants to increase her career opportunities by gittin gud.
This just in, dancing of any kind is a stripper sport.

FINE THEN, I GUESS I'M THE ONLY FORM AUTIST, I GET IT

bitches trynna squat in fuckin heels, ridiculous...

If you need to strip or dance to get forward in life, you are already a bottom of the barrel whore.

Like i said, i didnt call her a liar
First post wasnt made by me

Ill refrain from calling you a retard but you sure do act like a fucking retard