Cheating /fraud/s who sometimes discuss steroids

Tricky subject. Multiple arguments. I've heard that any amount of exogenous hormone will shut you down regardless; some make the case that if the amount you inject is below what you produce normally it only shuts the difference down.

If you produce 10mg a day, as an example, and you inject 5mg a day, some suggest you'll still produce that 5mg difference.

I don't think so though. I think any exogenous hormone renders your capacity to produce hormones null and void.

Man upping test to 500mg was a bad idea, I can't handle this sex drive

>If you produce 10mg a day, as an example, and you inject 5mg a day, some suggest you'll still produce that 5mg difference.
yes

>I don't think so though. I think any exogenous hormone renders your capacity to produce hormones null and void.
no

partial suppression vs shutdown (complete suppression)

Hmm, good question.

Im pretty sure your body is going to drop down as much natural test to compensate for the exogenous test that you are injecting.

Meaning, if you are 600 ng/dl.

Lets say you inject test tha would equal 200 ng/dl.

I dont think you would have 800 ng/dl at that point.

I think your balls would taper down to 400 ng/dl, so that it would equal 600 ng/dl with the injected test.

nom sayin?

I really don't know so some paperwork on the subject might be cool for all to see.

man why the fuck are our testicles so smart

Seriously, pussies just sit there dripping.

That's interesting. Thanks for your insight. Not thinking about pinning by far. Still way too small, but the subject is pretty interesting to me.

Is there a big difference in libido with 250mg and 500mg.

6 weeks in at 250mg. Libido is higher than before, but its not "i cant handle it".

Yes

Goddamn I love pussy.

funny that logic works the same with dietary cholesterol.

if you eat it the same amount or more that you would produce then your body has zero need to make its own to compensate for the higher up take of exogenous cholesterol

Anybody who s currently on gear have sex so many times in a night that they could no longer get an erection?

On my last cycle i could not handle how horny i was, i had sex about 7 times in a night and at the end i had some like half semi erection where i could not maintain an erection but i was horny so it kinda got up.

Is that normal, i thought it was underdosed gear at the time but thinking about it it kinda sounds odd like not weak gear.

Yes very normal

Any way to control how horny you get?

I ended up so uncontrollably horny after a night that i slept with a hooker, and still had to masturbate when i got home.

finas?

Whats finas??

If that is what i was cycling, it was Dbol at 45mg and test at 600mg for 12 weeks.

Wait i did a bit more searching.

Is it finasteride? A steroid used in cases of prostate cancer that reduces DHT in the body, there by releasing pain during urination.

-.-

finasteride is used for hairloss.

It lowers your DHT significantly.

DHT is responsible for Libido

Sorry senpai i am really high atm, taking something that they add benzocaine to.

My mind moves a mile a minute. I like to chill when I'm not working.
Partying is fun but it's more of a chill with my buddies kinda thing vs intense thought/activity/whatever.
But where will all the manlet faggots hang out?
We love everyone here neighbors.
Meh. Go big or go home I say.

yooo whasupp

are there any old guard fags around??

Go away, nobody's home.

They pop in occasionally. Sundays are usually a good day for alb and canary to check in. Chem shows up every few weeks. Food lifts posts a lot. Farmer and swimmer almost never. Anyone else basically never ever.
Eyyyyy

chem has been MIA since months dude.

Or is Cem a different person?

Anyways talking about that roided up dealer that got jailed recently

How's airborne bro?

Are you a rifle cuck or machine gunner?

kek it's saturday night and im chillin a bit drinking and doing some casual coke and wondered how the old bros were doing
are the threads alive tho?

>600mg dnp
>cant stop binge eating every night
>skip a day of DNP to lower blood concentration and start taking 400mg again
>0 desire for food at all

What do you take to chill? I dont get along with weed and never tried anything else.

Personally i dont see the point in taking drugs or alcohol unless you are going out and getting fucked up, small amounts of excess in moderate intervals.

He posted here like a month ago? He is in some kinda work release program? I dunno I'm not friends with chem.
Ya always a fraud thread up. Very different from a few years ago. I am trying to think up a way to re focus these threads on serious gear talk.
Weed and alcohol although I am gonna quit both soon and focus on the shreds and gains.
Might have to keep the weed in there though because tren is a beast to deal with sober.

Guize this wine... mmmmm...

How do you even look like?

I swear in the 8 months i have been on fraud, i havent seen your body once.

>inb4 dyel manlet faggot like everyone else here

He is

desu mate quiting drinking and weed wont make a difference in your gains.

I am currently natty and i looked my most shredded and solid when i was going out every week and doing cola.

I am not as lean or as strong now as i was back then, and i go out like once every 6-8 weeks now.

Ya I'm chubby and dyel right now lol. A few people know what I look like such as jerry. Haven't run a proper cycle in over a year now. Long story but this place has helped me refocus immensely.
I spent the last few years running a company that ultimately failed. Became very depressed and didn't even touch weights for a year. Decided to get my shit together and stop being a sad cunt and came up with this crazy idea to become a trip and shill SARM's. I feel like I owe this place something and it's one of the few places I can be completely open.
I may tell you all the whole story sometime but I don't want to risk legal trouble.

Agreed I've smoked non stop since November of last year and it made zero difference in gains. I use it as a post workout treat though.

didnt you post that gay ass picture of you where you tried to look like a lumber jack or something.

while also wearing 12 inch lifts in your boots because you're 5'3?

Big things to come though. Now that it's cold plan is dnp then tren blast. Gonna try to show how fast you can go from Normie to huge with some professional coaching help.
Weed traps me in this mental depression maze sometimes. I want to drop it completely.
Ya that was me. I'm actually 4'10 though.

As long as you eat ok on average and lift 3+ times a week you will always look better than normal people anyway.

No point making life hell to make gains because all that happens is like a 5% increase.

Random guys that know nothing about nutrition or lifting routines make good gains and they dont fucking count calories.

Anyone here use both npp and deca?

Deca gave me bad acne, npp should too but people report it doesn't

5 years natty progress no joke, just found this in a cbt thread earlier

5 years to gain 20lbs of fat

same shit with me honestly when I was low test. took me like 3-4 years to make the gains I could have made in like, 6 months if i was normal

those are gains anybody couldve gotten in 6 months, clearly he fell for the brosplit meme and failed pretty hard

yo how u doing?

pretty good man, i was carrying either a machine gun or the tripod LOL fucking 14kg of steel kek, now im in a more relaxed company tho and waiting for summer to apply for promotion n shit

Mate i feel like i am in the same boat as you.

Every time i bulk i just get fat, i can not get past my current LBM no matter what i do. I dont care what people say hard work does not always pay of. I count my calories lift weights and dont miss a workout, yet i will never ever be as big or strong as a guy with good genetics who lifted half the time i have.

Might get my test levels checked, last time i asked my doctor he said no and asked why i wanted to.

I actually did a cycle of test a few years a go, and it was amazing everyone asked me what happened and if i was on gear even random people commented on how big my traps were and how do they get as vascular as i was.

I was on for about 5 months, and since then i have made zero gains and just got smaller. The only reason i came of was because i started to think about having kids with my gf.

At the same time or comparing the two? Npp makes me thicc dog way more than deca.

Doing well, jail bait almost got me v& and a preggo scare

Are you regretting the army yet when you have a MS in engineering, silly

How's that 14 blonde at? Kek I'm trying to find that test she sent you, I used to have it saved, something about go to bed my love

On npp here too

Bimbo?
Comparing I loved the look and results of deca, but the acne was bad

What's your test/npp dosages?

I bought 400 caps of Pumpkin Seed Oil, lads

I will be posting results on this potential miracle substance

#IbelieveinMasT

Shhh

I like 350-700 npp with 350-700 test

you did pct, right? lol

sounds like u didnt even get pre-cycle bloods done which is honestly retarded.

I did PCT yeah.

Never had bloods done, doctor wouldnt give them to me.

No acne? How long do you blast it for?

You look better on deca imo

...

so get them done yourself

you cannot roid without bloods. now you dont know if you even recovered properly

even if your test comes back "normal" now, it could be half of what you had naturally before

too late to ever know now. nice.

I look fat on deca. I haven't ran deca in almost 2 years.

I don't acne. I've been using npp since July.

dont listen to swollen glands faggot.

hes too scared to go to the doctor himself.

He's too scared to do pretty much anything other than shitpost

continuing from this is there any drug i can take to prevent natural test shutdown and then add exogenous test into my system to get an increase???

"Fat" is a good look for our build/height

No dhts?
Im guessing your dick works given your work

>Random guys that know nothing about nutrition or lifting routines make good gains and they dont fucking count calories.

That would be me imgur.com/a/cTyLs

>Didnt even touch weights for a years.

Thats sad. Get big now or i will pity you.

What kinda company was that?

I saw that too. Sometimes when i feel dyel and like a failure, i see people like this and realize im actually a god.

you forgot your name bro

is there anyone here who isnt a pedophile?

so you're advocating not getting pre and post cycle bloods to make sure u have recovered properly?

what the hell is wrong with your face?

who is the guy in that pic? thats some black veil bride level faggotry

My dick works fine when I get to consistently cum in a particular cunt.

you cant even see my face in that imgur pic you mong.

thats literally estp lol

lol not regretting at all, it was all part of the plan, i have it much easier for the promotion thingy

she still there kek but in the distance, future will tell kek

>trying to give advice about bloods
>involves seeing a doctor
>wont see a doctor

CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP

what is he a frauder who went trap mode?

...

dem some dick sucking lips son

I am going in less than 3 weeks

someone tell me what this guy is on about

no just a drug addict girl

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Mirin your love status HARD

It was cari right, Kek

Are you still frauding? It's hard to roid in the field

haha nice bait but seriously who is that twink?

NOT FIT RELATED
NOW FUCK OFF

still estp

Uh, some old names in there.
What happend to chem?

Hrs happy with Nat. Posts on other forums now. Out of prison.

lol its weird, she has a random bf and i have a kinda gf and been fucking a lot and all but the magic is still there for real lol

i was cruising for long time im just starting some average dbol + test blast and put some kilos, will see i'm decently swole at 81kg now for what shit i eat

Real men don't use steroids.
/thread

Anyone who used dutasteride while cycling, did you have an initial shed?

After last two cycles with tren, I thought mental side effects are more placebo than real, and if not then they can be attributed to prelonged sleep deprivation more than tren itself.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST I WAS SO WRONG

Currenly on TRT, but still have 5 vials of tren e left. No label, cheap as fuck, used only for month at the end of last cycle. Didn't feel tren feels like in the past, assumed its underdosed or just fake.

> 2 weeks ago
> injection time
> hand moving in direction of sterons
> perfectly aimed at test-e
> suddenly lord satan, creator of tren himself appears
> whispears to my ear
> "oi fgit u no man enuf to jab dat tren ova hier"
> like i give a fuck
> its fake or underdosed anyway
> i dont even workout right now
> no diet
> trt only
> amph withdrawal
> lets take 600mg cuz why not

> 1 week ago
> injection time
> hand moving in direction of sterons
> reminded myself i injected this fake shit last week
> cant feel shit
> definitely fake
> 300 mg just to make sure

> same day night
> cant sleep cuz hot as fuck
> probably cuz stomah full as fuck
> eating like a horse for last few days
> very shallow sleep
> havent drink coffe in last 3 months but today
> fucking caffeine must be the reason
> fucked up dreams
> all familly members died in my dreams this week

> 2 days ahead
> argument with gf over some stupid shit
> not giving a single fuck
> she acts like its something big
> still not giving a single fuck
> just want her to finally fuck off
> tell her that few times
> in few different ways
> looks like shes serious about that
> breakes up and leave
> still not giving a fuck

> day passed
> shes not coming back
> still dont understand how she could be serious
> not giving a fuck

> meet one crazy alcoholic
> he destroyed stuff in shop owned by my family many times
> hes acting agressive. throws insults again
> police never gave a fuck, too small cost of damage
> they come after 40 min from call, drive him home and hes back in 10 min
> in the past always waited till he breaks something
> otherwise this faggot would call police and report assault
> this could take hour or so, too tired of this shit
> grab and throw him over the street without wasting a time
> tell him hes dead if i see him here again
> now hes almost runing away each time he sees me
> never seen him so scared before
> strange but im cool with that

> today
> cant focus on the work
> dick diamond hard 24/7
> old friend likes me being more concrete and horny as fuck
> looks like i have new fuck buddy

I heard many times over this week to chill and dont be so impetuous
Normally I am quite calm and friendly guy, pretty patient
Lately my sex drive was pretty low, almost wasn't thinking about sex, focused on my job
Reminded myself about injecting tren when i got fuckcing tired of jerking off most of the day just to be able to focus on the job for a while - same as my first tren cycle, started to analyze last week. Looks like miss justified all this things with caffeine, being tired and amph withdrawal, but there was nothing that could explain perma boner and feeling like fucking viking.

(tldr incoming)

mirin jerrbears
make sure i'm in the screencap

goddamn estp do I have to mail you money for my damn picture

tldr: After 2 tren cycles I thought mental sides can be attributed to placebo (all the stories online), sleep deprivation and come out closer to the end of cycle.But nope - tren mental sides are fucking real, can't be placebo when I was sure its fake and totally forgot about injecting it. Length of cycle and sleep deprivation caused by that can amplify sides but they're far from being main reason - I'm only two weeks in and its more visible than ever before. Changes in the way you think and feel are building up slowly, you may miss them. People around you will probably spot the difference faster than you.

Loss of my gf would hurt as fuck, and i probably wouldnt be able to fully focus on my work. So looks like I'll continue my trenbolone replacement therapy and enjoy almost complete lack of empathy. Think twice before taking tren if you're in serious relationship :^)

Previously mental (side)effects of tren did not ever come so fast, that may be related to tren's influence on serotonin - don't know, just guessing - I've been abusing many different stimulants in past 3 months, never sleeping more than two times a week, first tren injection was week into withdrawal, week which i slept for 16-20 hours a day, I was almost sure this shit is fake, but if its not then i hoped for it to reduce sleepiness as I couldn't sleep for more than 3h a day when I was on tren - it worked, energy is back, and can't sleep again.

(I won't even read all this shit, hail /r/stims)

>Thats sad. Get big now or i will pity you.
Working on it lol. I miss being mired.
>What kinda company was that?
I'd rather not say. The things that occurred fucked me completely and I don't intend to let it go. Nothing personal, just business, if you catch my drift...
Tren is no joke. I love it but it also makes me an easily agitated holier than thou ass hole.
Praise Kek.

mirin 0 fucks

Checked.

Can you use roids to just get stronger/faster/more in shape? Like using cheat codes to skip a year or two of proper lifting?

Back is finally not dyel

Not big, but not dyel