Hey Veeky Forums...

... drink sugarless soda .. ?

>... drink sugarless soda .. ?

I've tried that a few times, but the taste grosses me out. Also, the aspartame cancer thing concerns me (since I can't find definitive evidence pro- or anti- cancer, I try to avoid it).

I've gotten into hot tea, but there's not way to get a kettle at work, unfortunately.

Thank you, sir.

>being so defeated you need to crush others
Wew
Bro just eat more vegetables and lots of chicken then complex carbs like pasta. Cut out all sugar unless it's in canned soup etc because at that point you will be still way under your RDA.

Well .. aspartame doesn't cause cancer. It's the most studied chemical in the world currently, and every health organisation in the world (including the WHO & Cancer Council) have found nothing wrong with it.

So I wouldn't worry about that.

Re: taste no idea what you're on about, sounds like its mostly psychological.

Coke zero & Pepsi Max taste the exact same as the sugar versions to me.

i don't know where you're from but in canada they sell 100x 100 mg caffeine pills in all pharmacies/drug marts. its like 7-10$ depending on sales and 100 mg is equivalent to a small cup of coffee (in canada sizes). also i would try to switch to tea. less calories and still gets you some caffeine.

>aspartame
that's because its 3 amino acids

I want to thank you OP. As we speak my wife is out fucking another man because we had a threesome a month ago with a friend of hers and I'm too much of a bitch too stop her. Hes an ex marine and a ex con and I'm some skinny white college boy. But you've actually made me realize whats at the other end of the tunnel, what I have to lose if I don't start working toward a better life. I've tried to tell myself I have to take things in moderation, I won't be able to stick to a diet of foods I don't like. But fuck that, I eat and I sit in front of the television because I aint got shit better to do. But now I see how fucking pathetic it looks from another person's view, Like this is how my wife sees me? No wonder shes fucking someone else. We could go to the museum, to the park, to a bar or a cafe together and she could be proud of having me there instead of sitting in our living room watching netflix. So thank you fitizen for inspiring me to put down this fucking laptop and pick up the dumbbell five fucking inches from my foot I've ignored from the past week. I don't know if you'll ever get the eureka moment like this seems to be but I hope so OP. God speed buddy.

Nice meaningless statement.

Hold up, lemme call up the FDA/WHO/WCC/EFSA and let em know they wasted a lot of time and money because it's just amino acidz

>Hey Veeky Forums, I'm just starting my journey
>JOURNEY
Nothing else you have to say is relevant because in the first seven words you've already shown us that you're fucking up.

This is not a JOURNEY, this is a LIFESTYLE.
A JOURNEY has a START and an END. If you approach this that way, you will end up FAT and WEAK again, probably fatter and weaker than you've ever been, because you will eventually backslide into old ways you never broke the habit of, and gobble your way to being a fatass hamplanet all over again.

GET CORRECT.

>chicken and waffles
WTF is this shit?
NO FUCKING WAFFLES, FATASS, EVER AGAIN!
>syrup
INTO THE TRASH WITH IT
>soda
INTO THE TRASH WITH IT
NEVER BUY IT AGAIN, EVER
DRINK WATER, NIGGER, and learn to LOVE it.

For your crimes against Veeky Forumsness, I sentence you to READ THE FUCKING STICKY 100 times. Get busy.

Caffeine causes blood vessels in the head to contract, but with time your body compensates for that and after a few weeks of regular caffein consumtion you are back at the base level of blood vesel dilation. When you then stop taking caffeine your body kind of still compensates for it's effect wich causes the headache. The solution is to just endure the pain for one or two days, try to do it on a weekend if it interferes with work and after that it will stop and you will have no more withdrawal symptoms.
You dont have to give up caffeine, just lay it off in regular intervalls to get no headache, like two days a week.
Another option is of course to find another source of caffeine to feed your addiction which would proof the other posts right in saying that you are a degenerate piece of subhuman filth.

I drink diet soda, and tea. There are a lot of cold tea drinks out there. Iced tea, green tea. You can also make your own.

I'll make a pitcher, put it in the fridge, and drink it over the day.

I'll give you credit for actually wanting recipes and sort of having a reason to make this thread.

Also thanks for the new jackoff fantasy.
The whole thing with cutting though, and honestly lifting in general, is that you kind of have to accept that you're going to spend a lot of time eating bland boring repetitive meals day after day. Most of us don't eat for comfort or flavor. We just eat what works and works for us. And its hard to find a lot of different foods that fit both of those criteria for most people.

If this thread survives long enough somebody will call me a faggit and drop some good recipes on you, hopefully. But the whole "eating for joy" mindset is probably best abandoned. It can only hold you back.

Thanks boss. Glad to hear I helped somebody. I've been recovering from depression for about 8 years now. It comes and goes in waves, despite having a good job, a good wife, and a good family. So if nothing else, having helped someone else makes this a good day.

I hate that fucking "journey" shit too bro.

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Thanks, someone actually being useful and nice. I've been a big food enjoyer for most of my life. I love to cook, food was a big bringer-together of my family. It has a nostalgia to it, the family recipes and whatnot.

My goal in this is to get to and maintain a healthier weight, while still being able to enjoy food and life in general.

I do enjoy the militant Veeky Forums fuckbois rage though, makes me chuckle. Keep on not indulging one of your five senses because "muh gainz".

Actually made me laff/10

Pepsi max is excellent.

You've lost the privilege of getting to choose what you eat because clearly you have abused it.

Nazi police yourself, get some discipline, learn to say no to cravings, and once you've succeeded, then you'll be allowed to have those things again.

And you won't even want them when you can.

Jesus christ, how pathetic must you be to be a male attention whore on Veeky Forums
Confirmed for never going to make it

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>not indulging one of your five senses

The thing with that though is that we all do eat some shit we shouldn't every once in a while. We just don't do it all the time. And in some ways its better that way. You can enjoy things even more sometimes when they're less usual and you've been looking forward to them or you feel like you've earned them. And you make discipline gains every time you duck a pancake for some oatmeal or whatever.

Another thing is that you gotta consider your other senses. Like today I saw myself in one of those CCTV anti shoplifting jawnskis they have in stores. I looked pretty fucking good. It tasted a lot sweeter than candy.

I do wish you well. I hope you make it and I hope you get some good recipes in this thread. I gotta rest the gains now. Good luck.

Sure, if for no other reason than to piss off this closeted dude.

Right, but everything is a balance and a moderation. My point is to try to make 225 lbs taste like 270. Moderation and creative cooking to make meals taste indulgent without being a killer on the diet. If you have the choice between flavorful and flavorless food, I can't imagine a circumstance under which you'd choice flavorless if they had roughly equivalent nutritional value.

I'm not in it for the appearance though. I'm in it to:

1) Prove to myself I can.
2) Improve my health.
3) Have an excuse to cook more (since I enjoy cooking).
4) Experiment with foods to expand healthy options for other people like me who may want to eat healthier, but get turned off by the chicken and rice 7 days a week diet plan some of the more militant folks bring about.

I'll show you whos boss of this gym

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Guess that's what I get for not frequently /v/. I'm pretty much Veeky Forums, /pol/, Veeky Forums, and /b/

Learning how to flavour with spices as opposed to sauces is key in reducing calories while maintaining taste

youtube.com/watch?v=Teqn4ZdBRYM

OP i suggest you start powerlifting and join /plg/, those guys managed to get rasputin fit, then laid in korea through their bantz

You can eat whatever you want at Thanksgiving, at Christmas, every couple of weeks go to a fancy restaurant and have some creme brulee, it's not the end of the world. Just don't do it every day. Hell when you're bulking as long as youre getting a lot of protein, go crazy

>spices
how do i avoid smelling like an indian (i know it's from their diet full of spices).

Shit in the toilet, not the street

Good food for a cut:
1. Chop cabbage, sauté in a bit of olive oil, add salt, pepper, and balsamic vinigar to taste. Supprisingly tasty and low cal.

2. Google a sugarless crepe batter recipie and make crepes. You can stuff them with whatever; chicken, salsa, tomato, lettuce and gauc is a good combo. They're better then most store bought tortillas and are functionally the same.

3. Learn how to make stews and soups, typically low cal and there's a lot of variety

4. Seafood like fish, squid/octopus, or shrimp are all quick and easy to make, low cal and high protein.

5. Butternut squash is a great tasting low cal item you can use to fill out your meals. It's sweet and soft and there's tons to do with it. I'm fond of doing them mashed with coconut curry (use light coconut milk) on top as a healthy substitute for mashed potatoes and gravy.

6. Make open faced sandwiched (with just on slice of bread) and put lettuce on top so you can eat it normally. It'll cut your carbs and save calories for pretty much the same thing.

The big thing is to watch your portion sizes. You can eat pretty much anything as long as you do it in small doses. As for the pop, just find a tea you like and drink that instead. There's not a lot you can substitute for pop that will leave you as satisfied and energized so it's best just to ween yourself off.

There's not substitute for persistence and discipline though, which will both be required to get in shape. Be consistent and persistent.

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>healthy
>healthy

>waffles
>syrup

>working on cutting it out

If I got off daily cocaine use, every day, morning to night, at work, in the bathroom during lunch with clients, etc, to being clean, why can't you get off caffeine?

apply yourself

Indulging is the reason you're fat and lazy.

So ilI know this is 4 hours late, but i felt the need to reply. I used to be a little heavier than you; 283 at 5'11" (hyper manlet).

How much do you really care about getting in shape if you are making concessions before you even lose 10 pounds. Food does and should taste good, but you really need to focus on food being a thing you need to do, not something you 'treat yourself' with 3-5 times a day. If you are eating one already watered down meal that is 500-600 calories, how well do you thi k you are doing? How much of that fried meat and carbs really helping? And that's just one meal?

The fact you instantly atart virtue signaling with 'nazi' terms shows you aren't interested in anything but feeling good about yourself. I usually tell people as a joke to go to reddit, but you might find more of the hugbox you were looking for there.

For reference, i got down to 158, started lifting got to 180 and on a cut again. And i never feel i am miserable, my favorite thing used to be pizza. I havent had pizza in a year and a half and to be honest when i think of a cheat meal it doesnt even pop into my head.

Have some fucking will power, man.

>I drink liquid sugar and eat fattening shit all the time plus I don't want to stop eating shit why am I so fucking fat guys? :'(

This is a troll thread right? No one can be this stupid, right?