>pleasure isn't the destructive force you said
in my extremist opinion I'd say it is, since at least to some of the people you mentioned their vices were their down fall. but since we're in polite society, let's stick with moderation, ok?
> provided NO evidence
you're right, I give you that, but unless you're trying to argue against the deterministic nature of the universe, I hope you accept my initial statement as self-evident. (after all: you let yourself go, you'll look like it).
> Project elsehwere
didn't project. not on you, not on anyone. but hey, since we're at underweight: implying kek.
>sex causes you to lower your life span?
I hope not. but the point is that he still sought out pleasure, despite not being deviant otherwise.
as to smoking: I know of at least one way in which it certainly isn't pure pleasure seeking, but you're completely off if you believe smoking isn't a pleasure seeking behaviour. It is. but unless you're willing to go into brain chemistry, let's leave it at drug -> pleasure.
>Sound like your clutching at straws
no, I'm not. I'm just asking you to stop comparing apples to oranges.
> because I don't want to be a normal person
you're a child.
> statistics
you really needs statistics to see that your vices lead to your down fall? do you believe over eating and not moving aren't unrelated to obesity? do you think smokers look like shit for no reason what so ever? or lazy people are just lazy and there's nothing they can do?
c'mon, there are things that are self evident.
looking like the life you're living is one of them.
>There's more forms of pleasure than caloric intake
of course, they're just a very visible example. or do you want to discuss the correlation between weak facial muscles, soft food and an elongated face and a tendency to mouth breathing? (because I'm not terribly sure on that one, though it sounds compelling)
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