Tfw country and people are historically irrelevant in every way

>tfw country went from global hegemon to eternal irrelevance

>tfw country extremely relevant but people irrelevant

at least you got the best accent

>tfw denbt

can we just block all ip adresses from england on this board? i've yet to see an anglo make a quality contribution to a thread.

only because they are so aesthetically pleasing
>black on red
>uniforms made by top fashion designer
>smug, superior and efficient
>objectively evil but also relatable villain (hated the pedo jew that is now rampant in hollywood, tech, universities and msm)
the amount of money their archetype has made for jews must be insane, nevermind the immunity shield they now have, they've become such heroes to the jewish community its no wonder they calling someone a nazi became so mainstream

right, you're a askin' for a glassin' m8

It hurts me too user, we didn't deserve this.

Your just a sad little potato, Meds are Smarter than Northern Europeans

All the relevant Irishmen in history were actually foreigners.
Burke was a British MP
JFK was an American president
The Duke of Wellington fought for England.
Holy fuck even the most relevant person in Irish history itself was a Cuban guy from New York city

>the G*rm cries out as he strikes you

oh and let's not forget the liberator of Chile Bernardo O'Higgins!

great britain?

it could fit a number of countries:
Greece
Italy
Turkey
Iraq
Iran
Saudi Arabia
France
China may prove be the first nation in history to lose and then recover superpower status. Time will tell.

This would be like France venerating Vichy collaborators so they could say they had a bigger role in WW2.

The French valiantly in WW2...
For both sides.

Hellas weren't anything approaching a global hegemony

Now maybe some italians might think back to rome with rosy eyes, that's happened on at least one occasion

well I mean if you want to be literal about it only the US, Britain, and maybe France have ever been truly *global* hegemon but both Byzantium
>nb4 Byzantium=Rome
and Alexander's Empire for the five seconds it lasted were the top power in the known world at some point in history.

Spain, Portugal, Russia and the Netherlands all have a better claim on global hegemony than France.

ah, but Alexander was Macedonian :^)

>tfw people have been predicting the annihilation of your race for a century

>tfw same reputation as Germany

>tfw Westerners who never met them think they're not goatfuckers

Russia no. The Netherlands I would dispute. Spain and Portugal would be good additions to my list though.
France was absolutely the Premier world power before the French and Indian War and arguably during The First Empire as well
Knew that was coming :P

Premier continental power, yes.

Premier world power, no.

The leading power in Europe and the leading power in the rest of the world have usually been different people.

Even before the French and Indian War, France never had any colonial possessions or economic interests anywhere near as important as Dutch Indonesia, let alone British India or all of Latin America.

Also, when Russia was a part of the USSR, they competed for global hegemony with the US, and won in a lot of places.

The British didn't control most of India until the 19th century so who was the premier world power during Louis XIV's reign?

The East India Company was still OP as fuck if I recall correctly.

>Not using Irish history to take the piss out of the Brits

Careful Seamus, let's not get too cocky.

>Been dominated by Anglo for the entirety of their history as a people
>Even when you pulled your finger out in the last 100 years you still couldn't finish the job and unify the island.

LOL!

the island was never unified to begin with

Even they didn't consolidate control over India until the early 19th century.
Pink Is Company ruled territory: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/India1765and1805b.jpg

At least you guys were snappy dressers

it was under the Crown
>The Irish Republic should join the Commonwealth at least ffs

true, that was the only time it was ever united, before and after

Once Catholic emancipation happened being part of Britain was the best outcome the Irish could ever hope for. They were fools to throw it away.

If you follow the "Ireland was never united" argument you can't say it was united under British rule either, since pockets always operated outside the authority of the English and subsequent British governments and political opinion was always relatively fractured throughout the country.

You can say either
Ireland before the emergence of modern nation states was relatively homogenous culturally and inhabited by a people who considered themselves to be a single nation even though they were divided politically. This recognition of kinship, the High Kingship of Ireland, and the Irish Catholic Confederation represent a kind of political unity, as did the eventual conquest of the majority of the island under British control.

or

Ireland as an island has never been brought under a single unified political administration at all.

But you can't have it both ways.

what about the ulster meme?

The (((EIC))) was still incredibly rich by the mid 18th century and had a larger army than Britain by like 4 times. Most of India was either directly controlled, or a vassal state. They are the most powerful (although not richest) company in history. Heck they probably could've invaded England given their enormous navy

tfw only liked by burgers that hate brit fags

scotland?

>it was under the Crown

No, it wasn't. Even is off.
Ireland was never efficiently or "successfully" conquered or ruled by England. Every single attempt was a bungled, awkward mess. Massive swathes of land acted constantly pretty much independently of England, and when they were brought to heel they then didn't do so well.
Even "Protestant Ireland"-aka "lol let's just pretend there is no such thing as a catholic irishman and shape the entire irish society around a tiny minority of the people and landowners there"-didn't do so good due to how England managed things.
There is simply no time in all of history where England or "The British" ruled Ireland with any air of competence. In regards to the "yeah but you couldn't even unify LOL" I think even that is more of a bash to England than to the Irish, seeing as England have now had to prop up and support a tiny and hilariously pointless state of idiots who have contributed basically nothing while dragging them into a conflict which pretty much ensured that they'll always be on the back foot in regards to Anglo-Irish relations, with the Irish pretty much unable to do anything wrong now.

Ireland left alone would still likely have been pretty pointless as it never truly united, but the idea that it was "unified under England" or even that Ireland could have been considered part of the Empire is LARPing of the highest degree.
The British basically painted Ireland as "theirs" on the maps and due to the fact that Ireland lacked any power to extend their sphere of influence beyond their own tiny home the world continued as though it were actually the case.

The whole thing was a fumbled mess tbqh

"Okay"

Mass shitfucking and general displacement of boggers doesn't mean "effectively conquered"; Ireland after that point was considered to be England's but it was still a pretty poor, ineffectively run shitshow.

I never said the english struggled to kill the irish, just that they were never once able to do anything but fumble their dealings with and management of them.
Every attempt was hilariously bungled.

Go fuck your self M*ck cunt at least you have a working infrastructure, gothic churches and global relations you ungrateful deluded shit.
>be B*lkanite Greek/Serve
>best you have is Orthodoxy, Antiquity and EuroLARP
>infrastructure is retarded and Turkish
>architecture is only nice in rich areas of non-Ottoman control
>euro architecture is all german and hungarian but cities were burned over 9000 timea because muh gorillion national uprisings
>get genocided
>get BTFO
>get abandoned and with debt
But hey haha, we have nice beach n church n sheit hehe, amirite tourista?

>Norwegians
didnt they kill off ireland's only chance of truly unifying?

>Massive swathes of land acted constantly pretty much independently of England,
explain how this is true of Ireland after the 1801 Union.

If anything they advanced the feeling of nationalism by giving the entire island a common enemy. It's debatable how good Boru would've been at unifying anyways considering a high king's status usually dies with them, and he was stupid enough to get all his good heirs killed in a battle that was almost guaranteed won already.
Ireland's real chance of unifying came from the eternal d*b when Dermot invited the Normans here after Ireland was successfully unified.