/fraud/

so I have 490 test as a 19 yo but feeling like crap/trouble getting hard. Should I just self medicate and pin trt dose?

490 is shit. definitely pin

what should i pay attention to reading this?

First pin down today fraud
100mg test prop
100mg tren ace

Thanks for the inspiration fellas

Non-bloaty? Hmm, probably superdrol or methylsten I would think. Anadrol can also have estrogen and bloat issues iirc even though it doesn't aromatise.

Could also run LGD, I'd do it for the entire cycle though for lowered SHBG, but again that may bloat you as the lowered SHBG is like upping your test dose.. more free test, more estrogen, much less SHBG for the estrogen to bind to..

>a bunch of obvious shit

Well yeah.

Anyways,

>MasT was clearly post juice

>But NatT is small

You just claim whatever makes those two looks bad despite that they are great posters and actually achieved impressive physiques naturally.

What's the line in your mind from 'clearly on sterons' to 'small'?

Ask yourself that you dynosphric loon.

You actually live in a world where anyone that isn't "small" is on roids. What a horrible place to live in. The dysmorphia you have rivals MasT's.

You'll look stupid in 5 years when NatT is posting pics looking like MasT pre-rounds. But I guess you'll just cry 'roids roids' to make yourself feel better about it.

Why even bother trying to discredit MasT's natty pics?

Because he was bigger natty than you are on 9 different types of gear?

Accept that when the genetics train was pulling up to the station you were in the parking lot and move on with your life

>first pin
>going with prop and ace
>first cycle is 700mg test/700mg tren per week
absolutely nothing will go wrong with that

natT is a 5'8 140 pounds manlet

masT is 6'0

>even thinking about comparing the two physiques
dude lmao

Its not gay if there's a feminine penis

test post

I'm hurt jerry, /mtfg/ is full of what you want, you just don't want to put in a little bit of effort to get it

>trans gf
I want a gf gf

What a shitlord

Is 18-20 weeks of tren/mast too long of a cycle?

Jerry, it's time to come out of the closet. You are really fucking gay

No, but you'll have to do a more aggressive PCT for that.

A NOT GAY shitlord

There's notging gay about sucking a womans dick

I'm confused
we're just trying to help jerry baby

jerry you were low test right? any insight on ?
I should be strong alpha male at my age. Instead I'm beta.

There is nothing gay about wanting a large, throbbing cock deep inside your boipussy if its from a female

100mg got me to 800ng/dl
Would help with libido i dunno bout being a beta bitch

>tfw to intelligent too do roids

Sup degenerates?

Youre a smart guy
Explain how it's not gay if its a feminine penis

>20 weeks on tren
lmao

>believing masT when he says he's 6'

i agree with your post entirely, good assessment
your are pretty gay jerry but how was your waifu's birthday?

Hello Frauds,

Daily reminder: Real men don't use steroids.

Have a nice day.

/thread

...

he's posted that one picture of him in real clothes outside on the street without angle trickery and he doesn't look like a manlet

he's also Dutch, so 6'0 isn't even tall by their standards

looks like a math equation or a occult symbol to me. significance ?

Thoughts on ephedrine vs eca?
Will either help me preserve muscle whilst cutting?
Dosages?

6'0 in the Netherlands is manlet

I don't think you're supposed sigils to anyone.
also, I am jinxing you shit, whatever you wish for, know it will work against you, fag

suppeosed to show*
>know
now*
sorry, it's laye here

jesus, what the fuck
supposed*
late*

the e in eca is ephedrine dummy
did you mean yohimbine vs eca?

Does it make sense to take steroids just to speed up the process of getting fit? (instead of taking them to get huge)

I've been lifting for almost 3 years (with pauses here and there) and still look dyel.
Also my t levels are not great, it's 470 or 570 can't remember.

I know that, but what is the advantages between using solely eca or just ephedrine? My goal is to lose fat and preserve muscle. I'm interested in experiences and tips about using either methods

you are stupid, dont bother

>Explain how it's not gay if its a feminine penis
LMAO. It's still gay sorry buddy. But don't feel bad. Steroids make you gay. It's just one of the side effects. That's why I like low doses so that I can still maintain some bit of heterosexuality.
Caffeine enhances the effects of the ephedrine. Ephedrine on its own is fine though.

>testosterone, serum
>reference range
>348-1197 ng/dl

at 490 you are pretty damn low on the scale, but not definitely low test.
If you are experiencing other symptoms of low test besides dick stuff, i would recommend talking to your doctor about it.
hop on test

stupid for asking for information, sure buddy.

>tfw can't fraud for some time because I went to the doctor for hormone checking and am now under medical supervision

you still can just tell him you've been eating a dozen eggs a day and tell him the cholesterol is converting into ROIDS

besides that doctors cant disclose your personnel information to police

>test levels increase tenfolds from 4 to 30
>"umm it's probably because I ate some eggs"
I just want to see what they will do for my levels before I start injecting shit into myself again. They also alluded to a free gyno treatment.

hm. I wonder if the 15g of mast e I got was bunk. I don't feel any effects libido/mood wise or vascularly either but brick said his was g2g and it was from the same place.

Wut. Unless they're running bloods on you every couple months then I wouldn't worry about it. Most doctors don't even test testosterone levels.

>It's still gay sorry buddy
Up the dose bby. You can't be denying your cravings for feminine penis or you'll end up craving the BBC.

ahh well good luck on the check up

free gyno treatment that sounds nice

You could always go with my "oh shit my levels are too high for trt" response of telling them I picked up a test booster from GNC or whatever and it must be working.

Make sure you tell them the gyno is painful otherwise insurance may not cover it.

>Unless they're running bloods on you every couple months then I wouldn't worry about it.
well I fucked up myself with aromasin so they specifically tested for FSH and test levels among other things, like a month ago, and they want me to do another test in a week or so
god bless socialism
good advice. I have really sensitive nipples but no pain but I guess I could claim so

any good AI's for making a wet cycle dryer ?

any?

all will work no doubt but what would be the ideal ?

embrace bloat frend, dbol will make you strong like bull

Aromasin. Letro if it's really bad like trest.

>guess I could claim so
In the US they won't cover it for cosmetic purposes so you just have to say it effects your quality of life and causes pain/chronic discomfort.

>well I fucked up myself with aromasin

Like in an effort to get rid of the gyno? Ralox works for that, lowering e2 isn't going to really help get rid of it.

>In the US
yeah it's something like that in sweden too
>Like in an effort to get rid of the gyno?
yes. I read up on some study that claimed AI could help amend pubertal gyno.
>ralox
will keep that in mind if I don't get surgical treatment for free :^)

Hey guys,
Is there a roid cocktail that will Let me keep my Hair ??

better genetics.
Also saw palmetto/pumpkin seed oil, with weekly semen rubs.

I'm trying to understand roiding a bit more, as I'm interested in using them and want to know the health risks beforehand.

1) One thing I don't quite get is the "Hypothalamic–pituitary–adrenal axis" thing. From what I've gathered you mess it up when you roid, even more so if you do several cycles. Although people take post-cycle stuff in order to realign it as much as possible, it's never like it used to be.
If this is true, does that mean hollywood actors who roid for their roles fuck their health for life? Or is it not true you always fuck up said axis? Is it something you may fuck up if you don't have the appropriate doctors and supervision, but perfectly safe if you do?

2) Another thing that worries me is results. Again, from what I've gathered, you always fall back to a worse body after being doing with roids. It doesn't matter how hard you train and if you are still within your natural limit. You'll gain some fat (or if you are adamant on not gaining fat, you'll lose muscle fibers). Even if you kept muscle fibers, you would still lose muscle volume as you lose the glucogen inside the muscle, you also lose vascularity and what not.

These 2 things make me thing that roids are basically something you better either not ever do, or do all your life, but doing for, say, 1 year doesn't make much sense as you might fuck up your health for life and lose results fast anyway.

How wrong is this? And if it's wrong, what are better, more objective sources to learn about roids?

Thanks

Excellent. keks are in space

But don't you faggots understand that verhevener you don't believe me being natty in those pics, my dick only get hard as diamond

Why you all get so butthurtt, i can;t help it you are genetically fucked. Just respect good genetics. Some people are just better

Eod not Ed

tbol. anavar's a bit better but tbol's more reliable for higher purity. tbol @ 50mg is still physique changing.

I would go for saw palmetto + PSO + ketoconazol shampoo, if you mildly thinning. Otherwise just go for finasteride if you were fucked from the beging, as in; balding before roids.

Gf broke up with my lil brother. he's about to enter pct in about 2 weeks

MY NIG ON SUICIDE WATCH

Test, bold, var

Its also comfy af

ITS NOT GAY TO RUN YOUR TONGUE AROUND A NICE BIG DICK IF ITS ATTACHED TO A WOMAN

Its not gay

Azusas birthday was Very nice

link to comic ~

Do you need PCT if you're just taking test-e for 14 weeks?

Hello friends, I'm a 24-year-old natty experiencing low test symptoms (no energy, depression, virgin, weak boner, fat nipples idk if gyno, etc.) and I took some bloods:

Total test: 800 ng/dl
SHBG: 64 nmol/l (17-66)
Free test, calc: 325 pmol/l (155-800)
Estradiol: 0.15 nmol/l (

Yes

tell him 2 blast and cruise
show him the way of infinite gains

Forgot
>BIMBO EITHER FUCKING HIS EX OR IGNORING HER WHILE HE PRETENDS NOTHING IS WRONG WITH HIM FOR MAKING THE SAME MISTAKE OVER AND OVER

I dunno, sorry user
Some searches might bear fruit.

Basically right
Axis should recover over time
Muscles keep additional receptors though, so there is some benefit.

retard

good, glad she got out

womanbeating piece of shit

he might blame you for it though, life ruined because you introduced him to roids

Also, blood was taken after focusing last 3-4 months on naturally maximizing my T.

E2: 0.15nmol/l = 41pg/ml so yeah, high as fuck.

Is AI illegal without a prescription?

your hpta will recover to full capacity or close to it (some people report even higher) as long as you pct correctly. you will also never be permanently shutdown. even if you fuck everything up and don't pct, your hpta will start producing again on its own, just much later than if you had pcted. your test/lh/fsh levels dropping slightly is a possibility though, but it doesn't mean that you're "fucked for life."

the worst, worst, worst, worst case scenario is that you decide your levels aren't high enough and choose to go on TRT for the rest of your life. still, I repeat, you won't be permanently shutdown and going on TRT is just a choice if you personally think you're too low test even after pcting and waiting it out.

as for the second part, you will definitely lose some mass/muscle post cycle, that's inevitable (this is why most of us blast and cruise) but you will still be MUCH bigger than you were pre-cycle. the rule of thumb to remember is to not cut during pct when you're super low test, that's how people lose all their gains. wait until you've recovered to cut.

Yeah theyre all cancer meds
Order them from india they have to have proof you dont have a prescription

Wut? Why do they want proof that you DON'T have prescription?

Theyre drugs
To prove that you got them illegally from other countries they need proof.
But it is legal to import for prescribed use.

> mainstream media is finally discussing the rise of the far right [four years after it was obvious]
> only shithead liberals are surprised that trends end and the left destroyed itself once again as it does every 4 generations shifting things violently far right
> because disregarding people who disagree with you as 'racist'/'sexist'/etc is exactly what fed this fire to the point where we elected, of all fucking people, Donald Trump because fuck you liberals, that's why
> and instead of calling it 'racism'; media is suddenly now attributing this to the influx of immigrants in European nations and the disenfanchisement of the middle class in the United States
> and they pretend they can solve this 'problem' to appease when the point of no return was 2012

> of course the Jews could have simply avoided this by not hoarding all increased productivity since 1970 ie. "profits"
> they probably even stopped paying shills on /pol/ because it's pointless now, might as well save a buck if you're getting gassed either way

> politicians are no longer supporting immigration as it is becoming career suicide
> smug Clinton is now a disgraced failure for the history books
> in less than a year Obama/etc won't be able to tout his agenda as 'facts' anymore
> eventually liberals will come to accept and even support nationalism as wages rise and civilization trades social justice for a space empire
> then to avoid another war with Germany and the end of the world, we'll have to gas our Jews, because yes Jews, as much as you like to joke about it, Germans still are nazis and you dug your own grave by inventing the Holocaust

It's the current year :)

honestly I've never heard of someone trying to manage their e2 while natty so I'm mostly going off common sense/logic here instead of facts, but it sounds kind of dumb

you should be looking for the cause of your fucked e2 more than just fixing it with a band-aid. it's happening to you naturally so the e2 will always bounce back up if you stop taking your AI, making you have to use AI until the end of time?

DURRR I thought you meant that you need proof of no prescription to buy them. I'm blonde and high on estrogen, what am I gonna do?

My life has been shit since puberty. I don't think there's a fix. I have been doing everything I can for the last 1-3 years of training.

They want proof on some sites, proxy into india np

are you fat? do you have high BP? are you an alcoholic? diabetes? on any other medication?

there must be a reason behind naturally high e2

worth it to pick up some mesterolone (proviron) to add to blasts and shit in addition to mast?

Why did they break up? You have never used hgh right?
Hey how often are you shooting mod grf right now?

Really doesnt do much
But if you like it not much downside

If you've got money to spare sure. It'll make your other compounds more available and tends to give a pretty dry look.

this gen need more gay posting

Im sick and too fat to bulk
So i stopped taking it but it was 2-3x day

Anyone used DHT for dem dere penis gains?

I've ran pharma once before at like 50mg/day and it was underwhelming. I'll probably pick up like 5g of ugl and try it at 100mg/day.