Was the rise of Fascism in Europe in the early 20th century solely due to economic factors?

I would even say you don't have to behave economic motivators. Identity is at the root of every nation so when perceived threats to identity arise within a country, one can expect more individuals to question themselves and chart a new course ideologically.

>ywn get to admire firsthand papa pasta's superior interaction with the plebs.

a few alt-right faggots (who arent even fascist) means dick user

Read "Fascism: Comparison and Definition" by Stanley G. Payne. It's a short and concise, but old book (I think from the 80's). It gives a good general idea of the difficulty of defining fascism while trying to define it and separate it from other right wing movements, speak about all the theories of its origen to then attack them and has many interesting details about different so called fascists movements. For example, the disdain Italian fascists felt for Nazi racial theories and anti-Semitism. A good introduction.

Taking "fascism" to have a broad meaning (that includes Nazi Germany and various other regimes)... from what I understand, it was a combination of economic factors, the trauma of WW1, the butthurt of Italy at not having gained much from the war and of Germany at having lost it, the nationalism of the new kids on the block (Italy, Germany, various Eastern European states), a butthurt sense that it was unfair that the new kids on the block didn't have their own empires, general fear of communism, the fact that these countries were full of veterans who were used to and sometimes longed for centralized control structures, the fact that these countries were still mostly peasant-based with relatively small middle classes and a lot of power concentrated in the hands of industrialists, aristocrats, and military types who feared communism and wanted to protect their own power, the fact that fascism hadn't been tried yet and therefore people didn't realize as well as they do now that it's shit on pretty much every level (economic, political, human rights, foreign policy, etc.), and probably many other factors as well.
That said, I think that economic factors were decisive in the sense that, had you magically made all those economies much better right after WWI, I don't think fascism would have ever been more than the dream of a few scattered idiots.

fpbp

>Especially considering the recent rise of the suicidally altruistic regimes
Germany has benefited economically from taking in migrants.

They likea to see new faces
>Makes ridiculous facial gesture

In the short term while devaluing the average worker, and in turn lowering quality of life across the board, and we're only talking about the short term.

I voted for Trump and I'm a crypto-fascist. If he became a dictator and sent leftists to camps I would literally sit back and enjoy the show.

>Germany has benefited economically from taking in migrants.

Reminder that neo-liberal globalism is an unsustainable utopian meme. I dont give a shit about any dumbass stormfag conspiracy about jews or white genocide. This entire thing is predicated on the idea that an influx of immigrants will counter act the declining birth rates of the west, and fill in the gaps in our work force, which will save our economy, thus making it possible for the government to continue funding medicaid for paw paw. But the big fucking problem is that non of these faggots work. In fact, they not only just not work, they actually gobble up MORE government entitlements, only speeding up the decline. So now, we have even MORE people to take care of who dont work. So at the very core of this idea, its complete bullshit.

nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2017/02/19/german-economy-immigration/

>out of all the recent refugees to Germany, only 2% are employed

bild.de/geld/wirtschaft/fluechtling/nur-jeder-50te-findet-einen-job-43786808.bild.html

>2/3rds of them cant even read or write, making them basically worthless to the economy

zeit.de/2015/47/integration-fluechtlinge-schule-bildung-herausforderung

>Germany companies are saying how these refugees are unemployable retards as well

faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/unternehmen/mittelstand-als-hoffnungstraeger-fuer-fluechtlinge-14323607.html

so of course, they are all on gbsmedats now

businessinsider.com/r-number-of-migrants-claiming-benefits-in-germany-surges-by-169-percent-2016-9

>Germany spent 20 BILLION euros on migrants in 2016 alone

dw.com/en/germany-spent-20-billion-euros-on-refugees-in-2016/a-38963299

all this will lead to is a world wide ghetto ruled over with an authoritarian police state just to make sure you niggers stay in your space and dont drift over into the gated elitist communities

Germany really rings true a question of how much of a core thing can you replace with replacement parts, eventually I can see the new Germans in the next few generations drastically replacing their holocaust guilt by sheer virtue of Ahmed actually wants need dead instead of paying "damaged. We really live in one of the most interesting times historically just because of the volatility, the hubris of the West will be the death of it.

>Facist
>Votes for a capitalistic globalist
top kek

I really enjoy watching leftist who are solely responsible for this mess, or at least cheer it on as something good, say something about how western civilization is falling, as if they are completely clueless as to why. Im still not sure of its complete ignorance or complete suicidal self hatred

Refugees and immigrants are taken on for different reasons, Refugees are seeking refuge from something bad, immigrants are looking to move for their own economic self interest or other factors.

yea Clinton was a great alternative, retard

I hate namefags

none of this changes the fact that Germany has not benefited economically from taking in migrants at all, and in fact, have suffered economically for it. Theres also the fact that it has resulted in a horrible clash of culture that left wing defenders of migrants either outright ignore, or brush over as not that big a deal

I agree with the overall premise of this post although some of the conclusions sound rather far-fetched to me.

Not a stormfag, but I do hope that fascism make a comeback. I want at least one country in Europe to go straight state-worship and everything. It's be a good change from the increasingly-hypocritical EU and it's mandatory multi-state laws. Granted, many safety and quality-control organizations are immensely helpful, but dictating another country's foreign policy based on an economic union is just political garbage.

Europe and the USA are highly unlikely to ever become white ethnostates. Honestly, the biggest chance for them to become fascist is actually if their white populations are replaced by immigrants.

>fascism means having a white ethnostate

In this century I think we can expect a push for reconquista, and we will see a weakening of the American power economically and militarily through the big push to demonize the youth on top of drug use at large. The dynamic of a working class supporting the rest of society kind of falls apart when they're all strung out on heroin, or speak Spanish. America's been poisoned throughout with drugs and that shit is fucking corrosive to society. One starts wondering how much of this fentanyl is maliciously shipped?

>Was the rise of Fascism in Europe in the early 20th century solely due to economic factors?
Absolutely. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional.

It's certainly the main starting factor:
>few economic opportunities --> dissatisfaction with the current government and society
>dissatisfaction with current society --> society is currently decadent and about to collapse
>society is about to collapse --> immediate reform is necessary
>the current government cannot reform immediately --> liberalism isn't a viable ideology, political violence is necessary

However, nationalism is an equally important component:
>refusing to abandon nationalist beliefs --> communism and internationalist socialism aren't viable ideologies
>previous defeat in wars --> revanchism and belligerence toward perceived foreign enemies
>reform must violently happen + rejection of liberalism + rejection of socialism = the 'Third Way', i.e., fascism

Fascism basically came out of trying to reconcile intense nationalist beliefs with the distinctly internationalist ideology of communism.

Europe was chock full of white ethnostates for most of history and still has some remaining today

>some
You mean the majority.

>Race? It is a feeling, not a reality. Ninety-five per cent, at least. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today.… National pride has no need of the delirium of race.
>Said by Mussolini.
Really activates your almonds.

>[citation needed]

Well, maybe the majority of Eastern European countries.

Unfortunately, countries in Western Europe have allowed for so much migration so as to lose their status of truly white ethnostates as their nonwhite populations may near or even exceed 10% in the coming decades.

Also unfortunately, without a holocaust-tier removal of nonwhites, these minority populations will never go away

How's your essay question going sweetie?

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>economic benefit as a result of unsustainable population growth and destruction of thousands of years of culture is worthwhile!
>Keep that economy growing, goyim!

One of these days LARPing will not be fun anymore for you

No, there was also heavy social factors resulting from the end of WW1, Neichean philosophy and the rise of communism. Ultimately fascism is about survival, strength and stability, so people tend to flock to it when things are shitty.

Nice correlation there... oh wait!

>I sat on my ass every day other than election day
>If something happened I would continue to sit on my ass.

Great comment, keyboard warrior

Well, those crime organizations are indeed conected with terrorists organizations (especialy with the xiite ones) wich are conected with shadow governaments of the east side, so, it is not crazy to think of a least a oportunist move being made by enemies.

Reminder that none of you are European and you will never afford to go to Europe to see how incredibly minuscule the refugee ""crisis"" really is. You're a poor, stupid American posting anonymously because you're worthless and your words hold no weight if paired with your identity.

ah... People have been talking for ages about how great civilizations are at a point where they will completely collapse.

Unfortunately, it never occurs explosively. I'd love to see a collapse the size of WW2 to take place in my lifetime. Wouldn't matter if I died I just want to experience an enormous historical event.

30% by 2030 is all I need to hear euro boy

shiite crime organisations are pretty low level and operate family based mostly for economic reasons and to gain power locally.

I can buy the part with being connected to shadow governance though. There could definitely be something in what you're saying.

I was talking with a UN operative once who was pretty high ranked in overseeing the distribution of Polio vaccines in Pakistan. There was some problems getting to certain territories as conservative/tribal territories are vary of Americans (bin laden and all that). The UN operatives would even have to close off entire streets and have snipers so they wouldn't get ambushed by tribal crime syndicates/taliban.
But through like 4 acquaintances the UN operative got in tact with taliban (tehrik faction) leader, and they came to the agreement that they would be allowed to distribute vaccines and be protected (militarily) by the taliban itself in exchange for some community work (building cricket fields [not schools wtf?]) and such.
Point is that terror/crime syndicates arent that organized, it's usually loosely connected shit that goes through some guy. So it's plausible that some shadow government is helping to push drugs into western countries for decadence. Really makes you wonder why even prescription pills and weed have been lazed with stuff like fentanyl

This is really the gist of all /pol/ack """fascists""", hell I'm not a fascist but I probably did more for "fascism" getting into drunken fights with some ANTIFA fags in San Diego than your average /pol/ack will ever do in their lives.

It's not just the refugee crisis you stupid faggot. It's immigration making 1/3 of western european countries muslim in the next generation. Go fuck yourself.

>virtuefagging

how embarrassing

Pshaw... right wing death squads are a meme. Liberal fair trial followed by imprisonment of the convicted to terms set based on the precedent of the Western legal tradition squads are where it's at. Even as you're being escorted to court by the body cam-wearing police squad, you won't be able to help feeling admiration for the men's firm adherence to human rights standards and insistence that you have your day before an impartially selected jury.

Don't post

I wouldn't even necessarily argue economy was the main factor. I think what happened in 20th century was a crisis of representative democracy with two opposite ways to resolve it emerging: one was a mass politicization of society to unite it under a single leadership (meaning fascism, National Socialism and various offshoots of both); another was stripping politics of power that was to bestowed on professional civil service and nominally non-goverment institutions (more or less modern Western government). Then WWII happened and fascism was crushed, and since thanks to a certain genocidal wannabe artist it became irrelevant as an alternative.

I would argue we are seeing another crisis and failure of representative democracy today and into the future.

I am not really sure where I stand on current politics out side of a few specific issue. But things do not seem good for the future

The only thing I ever get really assmad about these days are gun rights

>t. extreme pro 2A fag

Is it really such a bad thing though? I mean, if the immigrant and refugee system were to be magically solved tommorow, the current broken system would go on, leaving everyone dissatisfied and none of the other problems we have today fixed.

I think it's kind of the same shit no matter what system we have. There's gonna be growth, then decay, and finally collapse, followed by rebirth. There will be the illusion of the people being in charge, but a select few oligarchs will be the ones responsible for the majority of decision making.

Economical factors made fascist regimes rise to power, but what made them appear in the first place was the feeling that their countries had been wronged and weren't treated fairly. Germany didn't accept not being allowed to have colonies, like Britain, France and Russia. Italy also had an impression that their "sacrifice" in WW1 was unappreciated due to them not getting the territories they wanted, both inside and outside of Europe.

As you can see, in the end of the day, it's was all about the right of ruling over non-whites. Today they still want to this, but this time by flooding their own lands with non-whites.

>this is what he actually believes
wew man better than you being against us

Reddit.

Name a fascist movement that has any significant political representation in the west.

You'll die anyway

unironically the most autistic post i've seen on this site in months

What counts as the West?

the American Republican party

>it's just immigration/demographics
widen your scope pleb

Partly. Fascism and national socialism both came into power by currying favour with the conservatives through the squadristi/SA beating up socialist activists and breaking strikes.

>fascism is right wing

btfo

>Trump is god emperor! Praise Kek! xD
He hasnt realised that american politics are just made up of different Jewsh families wanting control.

oh, he knows

>if you don't like Jewish Puppet A you must like Jewish Puppet B xDDDDDD

This.

USA, Canada, and Europe.

Please for the love of all things good elaborate on this.

>Please for the love of all things good elaborate on this.
You're actually replying in a serious manner in the most low effort troll in the thread?