/Fraud/ Steroid General

DELET THIS

Good job on the OP.

Dose? Don't you feel good?

I wasn't really expecting much out of it in terms of physical changes/effects. But I love how deeply I sleep and improved appetite.

>pic related is how i feel when I take MemeK at night

Will be on TRT within a week so that'll be what I'm counting on for physical changes.

Why are you bleeding yourself? Hematocrit too high?

My BP is high as shit right now, attempting to lower it by any means possible. I am doing a double red bloodcell donation tomorrow.

>reversed prolactin gyno with letro

have to go to a doctor soon and get blood drawn, dont want them to see signs of roid use in my fucked up RBC and hematocrit.

do you think removing ~18oz of blood is enough to get my rbc and hematocrit back down into range? i dont know how elevated it was beforehand

It will probably be too low

yeah but no one is going to say im on gear because my rbc is too low

hi guys, how you doing?

I take 15mg every morning. I feel like I should be taking twice that. Also I lift at night, should I take it at a different time too?

i need blood help

She may order more tests if it's weirdly low

Sort of a noob question, but sort of not. Obviously if you want the info I'll give it anyways.

>28
>4 months now, but 3 years prior
>18%

I lifted for years before having a massive leg injury(broke the femur in about 15 spots). I basically had to do nothing for about 6 months while dicking about recovering, and then dicked about for another year or so before trying to get back into the gym. I have lost an insane amount of strength, and I'm trying to get it back.

What I'm curious about is I know that new lifters should never use gear because they will fuck up tendons because they haven't developed. Can that atrophy or weaken as well, and if so would it still be ok to do a single cycle to catch back up. I have no desire to life in roid town permanently, but I can't stand how much strength I lost.

>she

as if

go ahead if you want, don't go ahead if you don't want to.

it's your choice on the end, being on gear is fucking great

also

>cycling

Idk why I thought you said it was grill

Well I want to, but I obviously don't want to just rip my bicep off or whatever. As demonized as AAS are, I know that tendon issues are actually a legitimate problem. I didn't know if anyone knew about disuse and them becoming weak or if it was like "you work them and then they are good for a long time."

The tendon thing is just a meme, bpc and a bit of gh will sort out any shit you might run into

I know GH, but what's BPC?

bpc 157

peptide

Bpc 157 upregulates GH receptors in tendons, I think they roughly double, so running them together can help you avoid the cost and sides of gh while still strengthening tendons on cycle

i have no idea why else I would get gyno from tren though, I can do 500mg test without AI no problem but 250mg tren on 4th week is giving me gyno, my nips arent lactating either

if i was just on accutane for 6 months at 80 mg per day, will i have any acne problems normally associated with running test? i have extra that id be willing to use on cycle, but if its pointless id rather not.

my acne went away forever even with gear use from running 20mg for 3-4 months

lol

tfw down 15lbs in a week from dnp +keto

dnp in the winter is fucking god tier

pic unrelated

>tfw driving around with the windows down when it cold enough to snow
i was freezing a week ago when the temp was 10 degrees higher and not on dnp.

Can i safely work out today even if i am still feeling light headed and shit?

No

do you even work out at all anymore

just been maintaining and not giving a fuck so only full body twice-three times a week at maintenance or slightly below maintenance calories

never got full again after dnp since im still starving to death

don't want to touch a surplus calorie if i'm not on gear (only on a 100mg cruise right now)

did you make this

yes

when the blood went from dripping to squirting was when i was clenching my fist. when i did that it would just squirt out like fuck.

also
>tfw i am starving myself for the rest of the day to stay at maintenance after eating all that fucking junk

ree

Milksteak over hard with a side of your finest jellybeans

Raw

>Slept with girls who said afterwards "yeah, sure i got chlamydia, but you didn't ask before so i assumed you didn't care" which isn't...cool

Jerr you're fucking right girls are scary

Why the fuck didn't you just donate blood you sperg

cuz i didn't feel like going through the extreme hassle, plus it's fun doing shit like this myself

hey i was the guy wondering about blood tests for the paramedic job. Could you help me out?

damn, that's hardcore.
never leave us glands fag, even when the glands get so swollen and cancer you in the hospital, continue shitposting.

that is a one up to when trendick did it in the shower.

Wtf. It's literally more of a hassle to bleed yourself.

Did you do this at your parents place? Looks like you made a damn mess

there were a few drops of blood on the floor of my room, that's it. just wiped it up. i'm careful with whatever i do

yeah sure with what

fuaaaaaark

>finished ~12 week's worth of work in a day
>gotta eat though

better living through chemistry

how does one eat on adderall

>tfw blood pressure is 160/100
>Still not doing cardio
>Not going into cruise
>Not gonna take meds

Do your worst IDGAF

i wouldn't stop blasting either but i wouldnt be a lazy obeast and do some fucking cardio

honestly u are probably gonna have high BP anyway from being obeast

Fucking skelly manlets think they can talk shit.

M8 I'll smother your shit with my sweaty folds while I beat up your little prostate

I told you

Thats dumb

I thought having a big heart was a good thing?

I'll probably do something about it soon enough Im starting to get headaches when I lay down. I'm just stubborn and lazy.

>Source on that image pls

Sup dewd?

goddamn nan you sure are popular

that looks disgusting damn, almost as big a hip ratio as half the faggots in cbt threads

I did some bw squats yesterday and my leg hurts today lol

>that looks disgusting damn
youtube.com/watch?v=7p23mA2VV0A

>that looks disgusting
Post a girl you think is a 10
Lmao cmon breh. Legs feed the wolf! I emailed you a pic.

clean that filthy ass room, rightnow

If I start my 15 year old son on AAS, would he die?

Fug dat. That's what Mexicans are for.
Ya definitely but not before he roid rage murdered you in your sleep.

so it's a win/win then
sweet.

How to tell if suppressed? Does suppression naturally go away over time?

Ralox on tren is a no go bud. Control AI, use prami or caber.

Why don't you lead by example and get huge and teach your son.
Bloodwork

24
3 years lifting with strict diet
Currently 15% bf bulking up from 9%

Thinking about ez lyfe joocin

i have 10% bf and thinking about starting gear soon
but my son watches anime and eats Cheetos

200mg test e/week
400mg tren e/week
50mg mk677/day
>my son watches anime and eats Cheetos
What do you do? Clearly you are doing a shit job of leading by example if you are actually in that good of shape.

Goals for working out?

he lives with his mother primarily, she doesn't care about anything but herself
I see him on weekends but between my work and his obsessions I don't have much time
feels bad, i failed as a dad.

I try to show him that eating healthy and exercising is a good thing but he doesn't listen to me anymore because his mommy said it was okay

kill her

>I try to show him that eating healthy and exercising is a good thing but he doesn't listen to me anymore
You need to get him into girls. Teach him good diet. Make dank grass fed ribeye steak and fresh green beans with garlic and almonds when he comes over. Teach him about good food that is also healthy. If you can get him to lift for 6 months then maybe put him on gear but I probably wouldn't.
Fucking lying skanks right?

Do it

Better experience than most newbies who roid

If you know how to change your diet to add/lose weight (and have the willpower to stick with it) you're way ahead of the gain

I've always read about people taking at least 25mg (Cap takes 50mg) before bed

Ask cap about the timing thing, he's the resident expert

IIRC there's something about GH being secreted more while you sleep, but I dose at night because it's so great for sleep. I feel so well rested when I wake up now. I don't think it aids my recovery as far as I can tell, but going from low T shitty sleep to this is great.

Jumped on gear after having taken MK for a while so it's not the gear that's the reason I'm sleeping better (though I'm sure it doesn't help)

Just stay safe, don't push yourself beyond a reasonable pace

I think the tendon meme comes from people feeling like they have super human strength and then adding insane amounts of weights to their lift (i.e., reckless programming)

>20mg for 3-4 months

Is this less than the usual dose?

the gear thing was a joke, didn't expect serious answers. I've been considering it for myself but until hes 25 i wouldn't start him on it
the food/girls thing is an idea I hadn't considered though

Maybe try not being supportive?

Like act all disdainful and shit. Make him work for your affection. Don't go overboard obviously, but don't be a pushover about it. You've tried the carrot so it's time for the stick.

My Dad always was "proud of you son" even though I was a total peice of shit as a kid. Im really lucky I managed to spontaneously grow the fuck up later on cause no one was pushing me to.

Iunno Im not a parent but I feel like you're just acting as a second mother if all you do is verbally encourage him to do better.

Lmao I forgot about that Indian guy. What a great pic.
The reason I dose before bed is because you want the gh during sleep/recovery but honestly the main reason is so I don't binge eat. I dose literally minutes before laying down. Even then I sometimes have to get up and eat some turkey lunch meat or something because I am ravenous and can't sleep lol.
Healthy fats are critical to not being a beta nu male cuck. Diet is and always will be 80% or more of the equation.
You pump his cucked ass full of red meat, monounsaturated fats, green veggies, and some heavy ass squats and he will grow a pair real quick.

>>Is this less than the usual dose?
its pretty much considered the minimum effective dose

>Healthy fats
>monounsaturated

you know everything except trans/saturated fat is perfectly fine, right?

he will stop visiting if I do that. it's not court mandated, he does it because mommy needs a break and i still care for my son
makes sense.

didn't expect parenting advice in /fraud/

m.youtube.com/watch?v=S4tHwulH5no
m.youtube.com/watch?v=PP9Ak5ub690
>didn't expect parenting advice in /fraud/
Then why did you ask? We do it all here breh.

I asked for roid advice as a joke. that said, I do appreciate it

>didn't expect parenting advice in /fraud/
we dont fuck around when it comes to familia

maga

polyunsaturated is still plenty easy to digest compared to saturated, yet you advocate the consumption of red meat

i guess if the aim is to persuade his tubby son into eating better beef is fine, but its no miracle food by any means

Wow you're such a fucking pushover. You're his fucking father. You have to have a fucking nutsack or your son is going to be a peice of shit. I know I said my dad was always supportive, but that's mostly because I didn't do sketchy shit and just did school and video games. He would've had my ass if I was acting like a real faggot.

Should have got it court mandated when you had the chance. Now you.have almost zero parental power.

Enjoy your numale faggot of a son, it's basically your fault. Really hope this is a bored troll or something.

You don't. Murders appetite. Similar to cocaine.

I was underweight as a kid until I got off it then I balooned and got skinny fat

>Wow you're such a fucking pushover. You're his fucking father. You have to have a fucking nutsack or your son is going to be a peice of shit.
this and

>Enjoy your numale faggot of a son, it's basically your fault. Really hope this is a bored troll or something.
this

>Lmao I forgot about that Indian guy. What a great pic.
This campaign was one of the wildest rides I've had the pleasure of being on

>so I don't binge eat
I do it after gym before bed so I DO binge eat. has always been hard for me to put food down so this helps a lot (ghrelin memetic and all)

I eat until I'm stuffed on 25mg, can't imagine what it's like @50

Do you notice any physical changes or anything from it? I haven't gotten water retention or anything like I've read online. Have had many variables to boost T lately so I'm not sure if it's directly contributing to gains

>food/girls thing

This is actually a pretty ingenious idea. With overbearing mothers some times guys are very hesitant to act masculine because they see that their mother is very averse to this stuff.

Speaking as someone who had that situation, fix it, quick! I know it is hard to impose your will while he's not living with you but try to make an effort. You matter more to him than he will ever let on. It is a thankless job being a male role model but doesn't mean you should give up at it.

Personally, I think the window in which masculine ideals and behavior patterns can be imprinted on a young mind is surprisingly narrow.

I 2nd whoever said to get big yourself to set an example.

>polyunsaturated is still plenty easy to digest compared to saturated, yet you advocate the consumption of red meat
>i guess if the aim is to persuade his tubby son into eating better beef is fine, but its no miracle food by any means
First off beef is fucking delicious. You want some polyunsaturated fats but mostly mono.
An ideal diet imho would be maybe some grass fed ribeye beef and broccoli stir fry in coconut oil twice a week and lean meat the rest of the week. Totally making that up but it instinctively feels good to me personally.
Or we can try to help instead of shitting on our neighbors.

helping a bro =/= helping a pussy ass bitch

you cant turn a pussy ass bitch into a man (except with tren, lel), you just let him know his fucking place

or inject his ass with tren

...

>This campaign was one of the wildest rides I've had the pleasure of being on
Lol dude so much fun. I don't think I will ever experience something like this again. I love my country from the bottom of my heart and I honestly could not be happier. I cannot wait for American exceptionalism to shine brighter than ever before.
>I do it after gym before bed so I DO binge eat.
Ya and this is great for "hardgainers" and whatever. The hunger is a good or bad thing depending on you and your goals lol.
>Do you notice any physical changes or anything from it? I haven't gotten water retention or anything like I've read online. Have had many variables to boost T lately so I'm not sure if it's directly contributing to gains
No water retention or anything. I love this stuff. Keeps me leanish and constantly feeling good. Also crushes hang overs and most drug abuse like nothing else.
So certain people don't deserve help?

He needs to hear this. You're not going to fix some lazy shithead by feeding him steak on Saturdays.

I'm not telling the man to act like a dick and beat his son or something. But to nut the fuck up and lay shit out.

Son you're fucking your health over acting like this. Your bones will be soft, you'll act like a fucking girl as your testosterone levels drop, and you'll just keep getting fatter unless you fix your shit. I'm your father and I love you, but you're destroying yourself and I won't support it.

Paraphrased

how does dosing in syringes actually work in regards to accuracy?

there are marks every 0.2ml on my syringes (BD brand), but the 0.0 mark starts a couple of milometers above the bottom of the syringe. how does that even make sense?

Probably accounting for the curve of the plunger

>>So certain people don't deserve help?
no one "deserves" shit.

it's just that in this case while you may want to "help" you can't change him, he is inherently and always will be a cuckold.

i thought that too but i have to draw it back a fairly significant amount to reach the 0 mark, then i saw jerry posting about how on average syringes overdraw by like 22% or something.