I've been to the gym since 6 month, 3 times a week and 2h everytime. I got almost no gains though. Because of it, I got my testosterone checked and apparently, it's pretty low. I can't ask my doctor to get testosterone injections, because it's illegal in France, except if you're a woman that wants to be a man.
Anyways, I wanted to know if there are ways to increase my testosterone level legally? Are there products that I can buy? I heard about something called "dianabol" It seems to be legal and buyable online. Should I go for it?
I'm sick of being skinny and hairless despite my efforts.
Here's what you do >go to doctor, say you wanna be a girl and get estrogen >do not take estrogen but get legally changed into a girl >go back to the doctor and come out as transtranssexual and tell him you're a man stuck in the body of a man who is legally a woman >legally change into a man >get test injections to unlock your true self
Thomas Gray
That could actually work
Logan Fisher
are you that french fag who accidentally posted in /pol/?
if you're close to switzerland i can hook u up with test, arimidex, pct, syringes aand needles.
Leo Cox
>How can I increase my testosterone legally? READ THE FUCKING STICKY LIFT EAT SLEEP STOP SUCKING COCKS CONSTANTLY /thread
Dylan Thomas
that doesn't do shit retard
only actual way is injecting it or maybe going through a long ass period of clomid therapy which 90% won't even work
Robert Gray
Yup, that's me. I'm in Paris unfortunately, but thanks for that.
That's already what I'm doing. Only eat vegetables, eggs, nuts and chicken 24/7, sleep 8h a night. I have absolutely no fat and I work out till my muscles are blasted
Samuel Powell
>namefag >tripfag >roidfag
Josiah Jenkins
LIFT MORE EAT MORE SLEEP MORE TRY HARDER TO NOT SUCK COCKS* /thread
*Note that faggot OP didn't deny he likes to suck cocks in the first place >found the problem
these are the people giving you fitness advice, and injecting chemicals to change their natural body chemistry which is advisable only for those who really know what they're doing (i.e. not this tripfag).
Ryan Sanchez
>roid rage: the post
Carter Miller
>retard asking how to increase testosterone >OH MAN DO ALL THIS SHIT THAT WONT DO SHIT >dude just administer testosterone itself >OMFG ROID RAGE AHHHHHH NO FOR SOME REASON THAT'S EVIL BUT WHAT I SAID ISN'T
Eli Moore
Ok, can you give me a link where I could learn everything there is to know about it, just by curiosity please?
Michael Sanchez
find me one study that shows it increases it by any significant amount
>inb4 hur going from 700ng/dl to 750ng/dl does jack shit omg
Gavin Ward
How long have you been lifting? Post stats.
Adam Martinez
>roid rage2: electric boogaloo calm your tits manlet
Kayden Adams
6 month straight. Don't have any stats. I was skinny as fuck when I began, and I have some abs and less skinny arms today, but that's it
Landon Gonzalez
t. drug addict defending his addiction
Ayden Hughes
Eating 2500 calories a day with 40/30/30 macros and getting 8 hours of sleep will increase testosterone 9001% vs. Eating 0 calories a day and 0 hours of sleep.
Connor Howard
that's what i thought
Connor Brown
>Don't have any stats WHAT ARE YOU LIFTING??????????
Luke Rivera
that is because the person eating 0 calories a day and getting 0 hours of sleep is dead
Lucas Foster
>I've been to the gym since 6 month, 3 times a week and 2h everytime. > I got almost no gains though. >, I wanted to know if there are ways to increase my testosterone level legally? >I heard about something called "dianabol" It seems to be legal and buyable online. Should I go for it?
you're a fucking idiot, don't ever show your fatshit dyel face here again till the 1st of january
Easton Thomas
Do I need to have stats?
No, I'm just a novice. Go fuck yourself if you're not able to help someone
Jaxson Rivera
>6 month, 3 times a week and 2h everytime. I got almost no gains though.
you're doing it wrong that's all folks
Connor Edwards
>ask what he's lifting >HURR I DUNNO
THIS THREAD IS OFFICIALLY BAIT. *** ABANDON THREAD ***
David Hernandez
I'm going to Paris this summer. Keep whining about low test on Veeky Forums if I'm hearing from you shortly before I'm going there I'll get you something.
Mais tu devras payer, fils de pute. Ou si jamais, tu peux en commander toi même, sur la site que j'ai posté dans ton fil sur /pol/. Je vis près de la frontière allemande et comme j'avais peur de m'incarcerer, je les ai commandé à une adresse en Allemagne. Dès que le paquet est dans l'union europeenne tu n'as plus rien a craindre. Ca prenait a peu près 4 mois pour arriver, mais je n'ai eu aucun problème avec la douane.
excuse mon français, je suis germanophone.
Oliver Baker
so I guess eating and sleeping affect testosterone after all
nope i went to 2 specialists and got bloods and an MRI afterwards
the bloods show i have no systemic/autoimmune diseases or viruses causing it. the MRI upon initial inspection by a radiologist shows i have no cancer or anything.
so basically this is all confirming what i have been thinking, that it's an obstruction from mucus, caused by me being severely dehydrated on accutane
i have to wait for more thorough analysis of the MRI though. someone only looked at it briefly, and only without contrast. they are gonna look at it in depth later today
Cameron Kelly
dont start blasting untill you fix that shit,you look like a fucking pokemon. and as I remember you dont have much acne on your face,why do you use accutane
Benjamin Allen
well i never really had it bad on my face since i was like 15 years old, it's just that i had it on my chest and shoulders/back pretty bad, even as a natty.
pic related, part of my MRI
Luke Howard
Alright yes, I didn't get what you meant by "stats". I'm not fluent in English.
I'm doing a full-chest & arms program twice a week where I focus on my biceps, triceps, shoulders, pecs and abs + I exercise my legs on sundays.
I couldn't name you the exercises. I know they're all right.
Oh non, le thread est mort. Tu peux repost le lien en le masquant, ou un truc du genre s'il te plait?
Christian Hill
First time I hear from a French Veeky Forums bro Come lift with me, I'm a novice too (3 months, SL, cutting, nice results... then agian, no problems with test)
Anthony Cox
How much can you lift brah?
Jackson Cooper
bump
Liam Martin
So that's where all my fucking acorns went
Dylan Baker
u don't even know that you're low test
get blood tests first. you could just be doing EVERYTHING ELSE WRONG, which is very likely seeing as u dont even track stats
Dominic Rivera
Very basically, because I don't know the name of all the exercices I do: For my shoulders, I do the shit where you raise and lower them with 14kg in each hand.
For my arms, I do the shit where you drop your hand then you pull it to your shoulder. I do 10kg
For my abs, I use an assisted machine. I do 40kg.
I did a blood test. I have 1,91 ng/ml for my "testosterone biodisponible". Good luck to translate that. My doctor told me that was pretty fucking low
Jace Anderson
my balls are small though. I remember them bigger but now they seem to be smaller.
Levi Parker
>I don't know the name of all the exercises I do Sounds like you need to follow a plan, that's what you need.
Caleb Morris
He's not me (OP)
I'm followed by a trainer and I do have a plan, trust me. I just know the machines by the look, without knowing their elaborated fucking names.
Ian Brooks
butr my balls are getting smaller and i'm not cumming as much as i used to.
TL;DR eat properly, check for common deficiencies and supplement if necessary.
Josiah Cooper
> taking advice from someone who calls themselves "ChAoS & PAIN"
Isaiah Phillips
haha 1.91ng/ml total testosterone is the same as 191ng/dl
grats you have half the testosterone of the average 85-100 year old man
with those levels you are basically guaranteed some sort of medical intervention. try to get an appointment with an endocrinologist
James White
retards no amount of your broscience natty bullshit will fix testosterone levels of 191ng/dl. that is HALF the levels of the AVERAGE 85-100 year old man.
he needs to either suck it up and inject test, or go to an endocrinologist, who will make him go through some hefty testing to find the root cause of his hypogonadism if he cares about trying to "fix" it so that he doesn't have to inject test.
Nathan Butler
please tell me your experience with this. DOes this work?
Joseph Price
kek do you understand anything from this shit ? because I dont. are you still depressed,I remember your post about 'is this how cucks feel' shit,you sounded like you were about to an hero.
Chase Collins
Nice trolling, but that's actually pretty fucking true
Maybe I'm wrong then, I don't know. But my doctor told me I wouldn't be able to get jack shit.
Jackson Cook
That can't be right. He doesn't even make it above the bottom 5th percentile. It must be a disorder that the doctor didn't even bother with. You need to go back in OP
Owen Johnson
Steak'n'sleep
Also cortisol lowers test so cut caffeine if youre overdoing it
Hunter Rodriguez
Wait, on my sheet it says that the average person has between 0,78 and 3,46 ng/ml
Carter Powell
because this is an actual medical issue.
OP did they test your LH and FSH hormones also?
no but a radiologist said it shows there is no tumors, diseases, viruses, etc.. according to the MRI + bloods. this all just is confirming what i strongly believe, that it's obstructed from mucus.
even if you can't get actual testosterone they will obviously try to diagnose why you have half the testosterone of a 100 year old man. did they test your LH and FSH too?
you either have primary hypogonadism, which means your balls themselves are the source of the problem, or secondary hypogonadism, which means the problem is with your pituitary gland or hypothalamus. if you have secondary, your LH and FSH will be low. if you have normal LH and FSH but low testosterone, it's most likely primary.
Logan Flores
>I'm followed by a trainer
Trainers make money by selling middle-aged fatasses workouts that make them feel tired.
Read the wiki and pick a strength-based beginner program. It shouldn't take a skinny beginner 2 hours in the gym, especially running a dump split like you are.
Daniel Powell
can you post a pic of the sheet with your name and stuff edited out, you might not be talking about the same reading as i am.
Christian Mitchell
Yeah I see now, bioavailable is not the same as free testosterone. You have normal amounts of bioavailable test.
Gabriel Watson
>testosterone biodisponible". Good luck to translate that.
Free testosterone
Jace Hall
also the reference ranges for testosterone are garbage. they include even the low end ranges of old ass men
that would be an impossible amount of free testosterone. free test is usually 2-2.5% or something like that of total testosterone. that would give him total testosterone of 10,000ng/dl, even steroid users don't have that much unless they are running like 3 grams of test a week, which is insane
David Edwards
Sounds like a bad motherfucker to me Not sure how he's not making sick gains. Maybe a superhuman amount of myostatin
so that table says it effected serum testosterone by an average of 16.6%, nice. that means if you have completely average testosterone for a
Matthew Jackson
o wait that said it raised SHBG not even total test. so his free test going by an average of free test = ~2.25% of total test, would go from 4.2975 to 5.010885 assuming a perfect correlation of SHBG to free test ratio
which is, again, bad even for old ass men
Hudson Parker
This. Also, ditch the machines, learn how the exercises work (I wouldn't be surprised if you weren't doing it incorrectly.) You honestly sound like the kind of faggot who'd get milked because they don't know any better; change that.
Gabriel Edwards
Naw man you're just getting the terms mixed up. 2.25% of his bioavailable (biodisponible) testosterone is not the level of free testosterone. He's good >Testosterone is present in the blood as "free" testosterone (less than 4%) or bound testosterone (~98%). The latter may be loosely bound to albumin (about one-third), the main protein in the fluid portion of the blood, or bound to a specific binding protein called sex hormone binding globulin or SHBG (about two-thirds). The percentages in the three fractions varies greatly. The binding between testosterone and albumin is not very strong and is easily reversed, so the term bioavailable testosterone (BAT) refers to the sum of free testosterone plus albumin-bound testosterone.
Hunter King
don't drink or smoke lift, eat, sleep have more sex if possible try no fap take a multi vitamin
Adrian Clark
>so the term bioavailable testosterone (BAT) refers to the sum of free testosterone plus albumin-bound testosterone.
aka total testosterone, aka exactly what i am talking about
lol. what's your point
Justin Perez
bioavailable testosterone = free testosterone + albumin bound testosterone total testosterone = free testosterone + albumin bound testosterone + SHBG bound testosterone in general, albumin bound testosterone = 1/2 SHBG bound testosterone, but it varies so 2.25% of bioavailable would be very roughly half as much as 2.25% of total testosterone, but it's not exact at all because of the variance between albumin and SHBG bound testosterone. so that's why they directly test for bioavailable testosterone, which as here is at a normal level of 1.91 ng/mL
Julian Reed
oh never even heard of that measurement before wtf
i just looked it up and found something saying it was the same thing as total, so i just though france called it something different
so he is normal test LOL, just doing everything else wrong