How much physically stronger are biological human men than their female counterparts?

>Please provide sources.

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> type male and female strength difference into google.

> immediately met with research papers just through google search that answer this question exactly.

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10 watts

source: wikipedia

That's a question with way too many variables to give a straight answer, m8. Something as simple as hormonal variances or height difference between 2 different men alone can yield different strength levels, if we're talking about leveling off near natty limit.

I want to see Veeky Forumsness make a cogent argument; not overly impressed thus far.

So, a battery pack?

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On average then.

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Based on what, though? Wilks score? And are we talking average untrained strength?

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Women cannot naturally pack on as much muscle as a male with the same height/frame. Furthermore, women tend to have smaller frames than men of the same height. Finally, women are not able to exert as much force on maximal efforts as men with the same muscle mass

About 10 times stronger.

T'es levels in women go from .3 to 1 unit of "I forgot it's name, test in per ml of blood" while men go from 10 to 30 units.

Men have stronger nervous systems, quicker reflexes, and bigger muscle mass plus faster recovery. So at the same weight, men are still stronger than women.

Bump.

I've read an article about a study which said that while there's a difference it isn't as huge with one exception: hand-power: 90% of men has stronger hands then 95% of women

This is obviously not true

Nothing says that T concentration is directly correlated with strength. I'm not saying they're not correlated, but it's not as simple as 10xT being 10xstrength

Straight-up BS, just watch a shitty show like Broken Skull Challenge and even physically fit women struggle with half too three quarters the weight that the men get and most women that get to the Skull Buster don't even get halfway, are normally stopped on thing like the Commando Crawl and those that finish in 'good time' set a time akin to a 'lesser' male.

Probably T and good genes.

>while there's a difference it isn't as huge

Yes it is.

Preach!

No the study noted that according to their data they found a correlation between gender and hand-strength
DON'T LIE TO ME FUCCBOI
LEARN TO READ

Why is the man here pictured without a beard or pubic hair.

remember that these are all roided-up she-beasts, so this by no means reflects the natural or average gender difference.

it's a simplified representation for extraterrestrials, can't make shit too complicated.

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So, it is true to say that the majority of all men are stronger than the majority of all women, bar some extraordinary cases?

>women have to be 90 pounds heavier to be comparable to the lowest weightclass in the olympics

JUST AS STRONG

Just check leddit fit pal. Women can do just as much as men.

I just checked, there's a thread about a tiny woman firefighter filled with sjw's.

In grip strength at least - and probably by most other measures of strength. Then again, 'most' of the population can't run 1 mile without collapsing or squat lmao1pl8 so it's not exactly an impressive metric.

Imagine if they had the male pictured with a big schlong, aliens would be flocking us right now.

Fucking CIS scum! There are no differences! Gender is a myth!

>:^D The Post

10%
>mfw it wasnt 5%
+-10% for overall olympic events except weightlifting and trhowing stuff.
>source oly records
The biggest gap in male and female records is in javelin throw and it has to do with something about evolution and men using its dick has counterweight like a trebuchet.
>scholar.harvard.edu/ntroach/evolution-throwing
>americankinesiology.org/AcuCustom/Sitename/Documents/DocumentItem/TAP_25_EnhancingHumanPerformanceInSport_08.pdf
Cus feminist came down saying
>#throwlikeagurl #alwaysagurl

Wilks is specifically created to advantage females.

Would make more sense to look at turtles in either WL or PL (IPF).

Why are men so much stronger?

Because God created man in his image, while females are only a degenerated derivative of man, a half-man.

So hence half the strength and intellect?

Yes.

Men are imbued with divine nature, grace, strength and beauty, while females are in many ways a separate species.

>pic related

Ten times stronger? Are you saying that if a girl pick up something with one hand weighing 10kg a man of similar training to her can pick up 100kg with one hand?

Average what? Average untrained? Average elite? Average advanced? Average intermediate? Average paraplegic?

It's not that big, it's actually about twice as strong based on the world records for men and women. Also upper body is a bigger difference than lower body.

> believing in intelligent design
> smarter or better than literally anyone
> pick one

You realize natural selection is just your version of Christfags' Holy Spirit, right?

>hey atheist how did this absurdly complex organ that is the human eye just come about via iterative mutation when most of the parts are useless/detrimental without all or most of the others?
>m-m-muh nachrul selekshun! u dond understand it!!! e-educade self shidlord!

twice as strong upper body (or maybe it was 75% stronger, I forgot)
50% stronger lower body

pic related is me, should I just kms ?

well, my tranny roommate says there are no differences between men and women.

no differences at all, just genitals.

Ican't recall where I saw it but there is an interview of a woman fighter describing how overpowering her trans opponent was

that person is full of shit

>male saying hi
>female being submissive and not doing anything

what a sexist plaque

Holy shit please be bait.

Yes

even the stronger girls you see in a gym are going to be doing weight average guys start off with (upper body wise at least)

Men were hunting, fighting, scouting, building

women were collecting berries and tending to children

what do you think happened

the gender disparity is even worse in other primates

>hurr durr human eye
>muh irreducible complexity

Put your ignorance away pls.

>that 38 year old chad with 180 kg grip strength

I see your lack of any coherent arguments and raise you my smug assurance that you are as uneducated and emotionally attached to your beliefs as the average 6,000-year christfag.
>we'll just act like we're so shocked that someone even still thinks this, like SCIENCE totally took care of it, someone told me that haha
>appeal to well-funded majority opinion is scientific and not at all imitating the Catholics
What is this, /r/fitness?

Denying evolution is like denying the germ theory of disease. It's hard to try to condense years of basic education into a 2000 word post, especially when you've already made it clear that you have zero intention of listening to any arguments made or reading any links. Believe whatever wrong bullshit you want. America is filled with idiots like you, you'll have company at least.

evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/home.php

Where exactly do you stand on the issue then? You seem to be pretty intent on criticizing both sides and not describing your position while demanding proof, as if that makes your argument in any way superior

A lot.
Source: getting out of my mommas basement

According to Rip, men should be able to OHP their body weight, but women should max out at about 2/3's body weight.

In a video, he argued that women don't really have true one rep maxes. The weight they can do, they can do for many reps.

Women are pretty weak overall.

The women's Olympic hockey team regularly gets beat by high school boys.

The Williams sisters challenged a low rank tennis guy (I think he was 200) and he kicked their ass. Best part? He didn't even try. I think he went for golf and alcohol that morning, lol.

10 times? What are men chimps now? Chimps are about 10 times stronger than humans. Is bubbles gonna punch a whole thru the universe? Pull a Saitama? You dumb gay. I bet you like feminine penis.

>Be big guy
>Have strong(er) girl fetish
>Do sessions with wrestlers
>Hard to find ones strong enough to be arousing

Wish I could turn into a small twink sometimes to enjoy the full experience

livescience.com/52998-women-combat-gender-differences.html
unz.com/gnxp/men-are-stronger-than-women-on-average/

As a woman, I fully believe women shouldn't be in combat and that it should be left to men and women should shut the fuck up about the issue. I also believe that women should NEVER pick fights with men under the assumption they won't get hit back because in this day and age a man will deck a bitches ass. I fully acknowledge that most men could pummel me into the ground at any point in time.

Tl;Dr: Men are in every way shape and form physically stronger than women and that's ok.

Please and i mean PLEASE acknowledge my dick

I think that's the funny duality of modern society. Even 50 years ago it was almost 100% accepted men were stronger, more capable, and that's why men shouldn't hit or touch women and women shouldn't pick fights with men.

Nowadays we have this idiotic, artificial sense of "well generally they're the same" on one hand, and yet maintain the "omfg you can't hit a girl" standard, even after a girl slaps or closed fist hits a dude. Even "feminists", just having their cake and eating it too. When the chips are down reality crashes back in though.

oh god sauce please

Yeah, ikr. I hate feminism and shit. I'd rather cook and clean and take care of my BF while he pays the bills than go out protest like some special snowflake cunt about nipple rights and a bullshit wage gap. I'm not sure why this whole thing got started with men and women are equal when we're clearly not. Not to say women are slave material but we have strengths and weaknesses and that's fine. Sexual Dimorphism. Feminism was fine with suffrage but not all this hypocritical, contradictory shit today.

We had a pretty rigid system in the 50's that didn't let women participate in things even if they were capable of it. Jobs mostly, I think it was fair to say that everyone deserved an equal chance at general aspects of life (barring the military and some public sectors like police).

Once they achieved that, they turned their attention to artificially and arbitrarily forcing an equal outcome under the unfounded assertion of categorical equality across the board (as opposed to equal rights).

We know why there is a "pay gap" for instance. Far more women are stay at home moms or work part time while men are still regarded as the general breadwinners. There's nothing wrong with that, it's all a matter of personal decision, but nu Feminists want to force everyone's hand into generating a concept of a totally equal society that simply doesn't coalesce with reality. Thus they're a joke

Good to hear you can see that

Yup, yup, yup. We're both humans should be treated as such, but shouldn't be more privileged or more prejudiced or whatever. Just equal.

I think a lot of this shit started in the 60's and 70's with second wave feminism. The liberalness of the 60's and 70's was a direct backlash towards the super conservative 50's and late 40's of the general American public. A lot of shit regarding social norms went topsy turvy in those years.

>As a woman, I fully believe women shouldn't be in combat and that it should be left to men and women should shut the fuck up about the issue

This is stupid. If a woman can meet the same standards as the men, what decent reason could there be to deny her that career path? I don't think military standards should be lowered for some gender quota shit, but if a woman can hack it with the guys then she should be free to get her legs blown off and get PTSD just like men.

Frankly I'd like it if more women went into the hard, male dominated workforces. Manual labor, military, police, mining, construction, etc. They already skate through life on easy mode while men trip over themselves to make women comfy and safe. Women should pull their own weight for once in history rather than being a bunch of delicate, dependent children.

>That one150+ kg grip strength freak
>That one 10~ Kg grip strength beta nu-male

boob is photoshopped (look at the background)

try lifting some weights

>a tranny being wrong about something
surprise

The fact is, combat operatives, and especially special forces, are usually upper-tier men in terms of strength, mental fortitude, and endurance

How many women can match upper tier men? Almost none. I'd be willing to be there are almost no women barring physical XXY freaks of nature that can match Navy SEALs as only the top 5% of men can even make the cut (if that).

Women are weaker, women are not as mentally strong, and women have other needs that need to be addressed hygiene wise that make their combat readiness far less than ideal. Part of being a combat soldier is regularly carrying 80+ lbs. of weight every day, moving quickly, being able to drag or carry another soldier out of combat, and having minimal needs. A lot of these nuanced standards cannot be addressed in things like physical testing or general training.

On top of all of this is the subject of unit cohesion. Men are naturally competitive over women, as well as more protective. Essentially, a woman could be cancer for the mentality of a group of men. It isn't her fault, it's just nature. As we have no serious need for infantry in the modern age I think it's fair to say that we shouldn't waste resources or forego utmost efficiency in a vain pursuit to find that one exceptional woman that can at least "hang" with the rest of the men.

And they'll always reduce standards if you let them. It's happened in firefighting, police, the military, and it will inevitably happen in the military, it already has by some accounts.

I'm fine as a man being dealt the shittier card in terms of effort. We are given more strength, mental resilience, and ability than women (outside of childbirth), with that we have to be the first to bear the weight and toil of life. I wish more people would be realistic and stop chasing fantasy.

To fight other men.

Are you a muzzie?

Because you sound like one.

>According to Rip, men should be able to OHP their body weight
>tfw you're not a real man

Why aren't the weight classes the same? There is a 62kg class for men but it's 63kg for women.

can Brian Shaw OHP 420 pounds?

>145lb 5'7 manlet with a small frame to boot
>put up 150 max on le olde OHP

I leave out my height and weight when I say I press bw in survey threads.

a better question is, why aren't the equivalent weight classes even aligned on this shitty chart?

you also need to factor for outright athletic performance differences. In most sports strength is not as important as agility, speed, and grace. Go watch a woman's bball game.

I doubt Rip can OHP his bodyweight 2bh

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>go watch a bunch of ugly lesbians spend all their time passing the fucking ball back and forth
no

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I'm not talking about special forces. Even if only 10% of women can meet the standards, that 10 should be allowed to pursue that path. You're focusing on a very small portion of combat roles to justify arbitrarily keeping out qualified people. Most men can't meet special forces requirements either.

>muh hygiene

Menstration is easy to stop with modern birth control implants. Make it mandatory and their hygiene will be as much of an issue as men's.

>A lot of these nuanced standards cannot be addressed in things like physical testing or general training

Part of training is literally practicing the things you just said. If a woman can't hike with her pack then she won't make the grade. And if these couldn't be addressed in training or testing, then how can you know men can hack it? If standards and training that has been perfected over two centuries isn't sufficient for weeding out people who can't make the grade, then there is no way to keep out unqualified men either. Which makes all training and testing moot since it would fail at the one thing it's meant to do: prepare and select the best qualified.

>On top of all of this is the subject of unit cohesion. Men are naturally competitive over women, as well as more protective.

Is there any proof of this? Why hasn't the Israeli military imploded if this was even partially correct? I see this argument fielded a lot, but there's never any proof that reality matches with how you think it will happen, and examples there's hat disprove the claim. If this was true then integrated militaries would collapse.

>muh men have all the burden

You can go be a martyr for some dependasaurus if you want, but I hold women to a higher standard than delicate baby makers. I also believe in self determination as part of freedom. If a woman wants and has the ability to do something, she can and should. Just because most women can't doesn't mean the outliers should be relegated to being weak pieces of shit like other women.

How the fuck would we know, you stupid faggot? What kind of a dumb fucking question is that? Fuck you.

Someone's never got pussy.

Women aren't as smart as men eh? Must be why there's Ph.D holding women in law and medical and astrophysics while you're here shitposting on a softcore gay porn board guised as a fitness board.

Does he mean doing it strict though or doing it like back when it was a competition?

Weird that it peaks at late 30s

I'm pretty sure he would only mean strict.

I think push press numbers amount to ego lifting.

Now, the lean back press (which many in competition were doing) could be considered ok as long as you must end the lift full vertical with the bar over head.

Personally, I've found the lean back style to be harder than even a struck press (due to the increased torque on the arm created as you straiten out).

>no v taper
>no quads
>0 vascularity

0/10 species would not make contact with

on average 1.2 times stronger

>tfw female friend thinks there's no big difference in strength between men and women
>tfw she's 5'3 and you could easily kill her with your bare hands without breaking a sweat

Most women I know can't even do a single pullup, but they seem much more competitive when it comes to anything involving the posterior chain. Something about the upper body on female, particularly the back, shoulders and chest, is definitely not as strong.

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probably a fat autismo faggot that does nothing but jerk of all day