what country could 1v1 the ottoman empire at its peak military power?
What country could 1v1 the ottoman empire at its peak military power?
Alexander Cooper
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Ryan Carter
on a side note how did the ottoman get so powerful in such a short amount of time?
Mason Cook
Achaemenid Persia under Cyrus
Mongol Khaganate under Kublai
British Empire under Victoria
Russian Empire under Nikolai II
Ethan Smith
Nikolai II's Russia couldn't even beat the fucking Bolsheviks
Isaiah Wright
Are you retarded?
Kevin Mitchell
Sobieski's Poland. They obliterated elite Ottoman units at Khotyn
Also, same thing happened 52 years earlier.
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Henry Ramirez
>Short amount of time.
They've been building up power since the 1300s.
Gabriel White
Strategic central position, power vacuum caused by collapse of the byzantines, adapting new technologies and strategies early on, general period of political instability and chaos allowed them to expand quickly without much in the way of opposition.
Brody Hughes
The Ottomans were very much a product of the crossroads between Asia, Arabia and the Mediterranean. Turkic horse archers, Gazi religious warriors/mercenaries and later a standing army of Jannisaries gave the Ottomans a lot of options and apparently allowed them to swing above their weight.
This combined with the era of "gunpowder empires", whereby states needed to be large enough to support effective artillery and firearms to survive, and naval power allowed the Ottomans to bring a lot of smaller polities into the fold.
Cameron Rivera
See the reason the ottomans become as strong and expanded as they did wasnt because of some sort of "elite" ottoman soldiers, it was because of their superior logistics and utilization of manpower, which is why you have those meme balkan battles by balkanite historian where hundreds of men defeated millions of turks yet the ottomans literally cant stop advancing deeper into europe all the way to vienna while allegedly lossing millions of men
Nolan Cook
>defects to losing side
what did moldavia mean by this
Gavin Jones
Because the ottoman actually won the war in the end
Nathan Allen
It took me more than a minute to visualize the map.
Ethan Anderson
Spain.
Samuel Mitchell
I think he meant powers that existed in 1566
Blake Brown
Ming China
Zachary Richardson
>Iberia+Italian states is one country now
Jaxson Scott
Under Charles V Spain was the most powerful empire.
Daniel Wilson
Canada in current year
Thomas Hall
>Anatolia,Jordan,Syria,Palestine ,Egypt,N.Africa and the balkans are 1 country
Samuel White
Are you actually retarded?
Spain didn't own Venice, Genoa, Tuscany, or Savoy, so they were all seperate countries.
The Ottomans ruled Turkey, Jordan, Syria, Palestine, Egypt, NA, and the Balkans under the same banner, hence it was all one country.
Kayden Watson
>Nicholai II
>Beating anyone and/or anything at all
Ethan Clark
The spaniards and italians got trashed pretty hard by barbarossa though.
John Price
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Asher Evans
>post-mongol northeast slavs who somehow even bothered with cold uninhabited shitholes
Anthony Lee
Ming empire
Leo Carter
France or Spain of the same period if they bordered the Ottomans and didn't have any other power to contend with.
Bentley Kelly
That's incredibly creative naming.
Nolan Jackson
This+1
Ayden Carter
this. holy warriors flocked to the early ottoman beylik bc it was on the byzzie frontier, janissary corps early adoption of gunpowder helped a lot, their entire empire was geared towards being an infidel-killing war machine (which led to a lot of problems down the road btw)
Brody Morris
big slavic boys aka poland and russia
balkanshit dont count though
Caleb Richardson
The HRE defeated Mehmed IV at Vienna in 1683, at the time when the Ottomans were at their territorial peak, it also included Poland-Lithuania in the war so not exactly a 1v1.
Russia was really the only one nation who could go toe-to-toe with the Ottomans at their height and win, exemplified by Peter the Great's victory over them in Crimea/Azov prior to the Great Northern War.
Grayson Morales
the Ottomans weren't just fighting the Portuguese at the time doe, still pretty cool how the Portuguese did so much shit in the otherside of the world while only having a population of 1 million
Jose Mitchell
>Spain
>1v1
Every war Spain had with the Ottomans, Spain brought along its european friends and asked the Pope for a meme Holy League to be convened.
Jacob Richardson
>HRE
>France
Nathaniel Cooper
Turkish peak was at 1540/50
Cooper Jenkins
For concurrent states around during the Ottomans’ peak? The only two polities which consistently competed with them were the Hapsburg empire and Safavid Persia.
Hypothetically Russia may have held its own as well. France night do okay, but I don’t know how good their naval power in the med was at the time.
Weren’t the Mughals around by this time? I think they’d do pretty well.
Andrew Ramirez
>Tsardom of Russia
>Habsburg Empire
>Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth
>Cossack Hetmanate
>toe to toe