Give me your opinions on the EU /pol/. Will it fail, or flourish?

I'm actually glad I fucked up on this post. Veeky Forums shares my view. The EU will fail.

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Massive potential of a highly demobilized superstate which is either pretending to be retarded so it can expand or just the current leadership is retarded due to bad luck (and obviously will change in the future)

Basically think of Napoleon or Hitler. Now instead of attacking Prussia or Poland, they directly start with those territories integrated. And without firing a single shot or having an army. Now imagine if they start having an army and projecting the same (and debatably far better) influence in the Middle East as it is right next to them, or even Russia.

In short, think of them as BTC during 2011. I know that this triggers a lot of /pol/acks and especially Americans but that's just how the world works. The USA is running at maximum potential and there's basically no room for further expansion, while the EU is running at some mediocre potential with everything being messy and disordered. Turns out, regardless of that, both have about the same economies.

I disagree with biz. Most people here love Trump and hail Le Pen and Petry. The EU is flawed, but if you don't lock yourself inside your conservative circlejerk, you'd understand it better. Also, if you're American, fuck off. You don't understand the need for political cohesion.

it will flourish when the britards finally leave and stop cockblocking eu politics like they did for ever.

Glad you're seeing beyond propaganda and basement warriors. The EU is fucking massive. If people measure it like a country, then it's barely 30 years old. Give it time.

If it was purely a trade agreement then I'd be fine with it. The superstate it has become though just proves it was Germany's shadow 4th Reich. Brexit made me happy.

Trump is quite the douchebag though, and that makes me wonder how he got so high.
I liked that he was elected as I was fed uo with political correctness and the un ability to deal with real problems that came with it, but he's been a massive orange disappointment since then, and the nupol teenage-like worship of his tweet burns didn't help.

Just to say Trump is not very Veeky Forumsfriendly.

Who gives a shit about EU, China is slowly taking over the god damn world.

>Who gives a shit about EU

Europeans

>trying to replace its population with people from the dumbest areas on the planet

Anyone who thinks Europe has any future is beyond retarded.

Could have been a super-state superpower, instead became a bureaucratic socialist nightmare. Falling apart desu

if they carved away the bureaucracy but like 90%, but kept the centralization of the laws it would have the mobility and the maneuverability to cuck the US and China.

The EU's biggest problem is since it's opt-in it's consensus. I forgot what the phrase is - but what's that thing when a committee compromise means you end up with a decision/outcome that NO one is happy with.

That's the EU.

Still, as an economic block, especially with free-trade it's a necessary evil. The political mechanism is what lets it down.
Having said that, expect it to run a more smoothly after Brexit

youtube.com/watch?v=doe7UOjZ7m4

EU will fail after the debt crisis paralyzes growth.

I disagree. A european, who studied IR at an elite college and have friends interning for top EU officials.

The EU will never be "a" country. The differences in culture/language between member states is to large to overcome.

Also don't forget that most/all innovation happens in the US. EU companies still have their head R&D in the US, and most companies true HQ's are located in the US.

China has been smart by protecting its internal economy. The EU always hampers on 'openness' and thus allows true innovation to occur within the US, while EU companies are often smaller copycats of US companies. Think of the 5 big tech companies pulling the S&P500. The EU has NO equivalent. China on the other hand is building all their own versions.

Tbh i don't think the EU will do either OP. Neither fail, nor Flourish. It won't fail, since gov's need the EU, to prevent individual member states from being cucked individually by larger nations.

At the same time its to disparate to really enforce a one EU policy without hard internal resistance from member states. Or the scope and size of its political unit / bureaucracy will decline, whilst still maintaining its economic freedoms.