WW2 was about resources

>WW2 was about resources

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thats not john green

It was. Hitler explicitly wanted that fertile soil in the Ukraine, and oil from the Caucasus.

>trust me, you can start a war for many many reasons other than ressources

>d-d-da Allies started da WW2, Heetler w-wanted peace XD

>the axis were the good guys
>hitler was forced to fight the war
>it's da joos

lol

Veeky Forums pseudohistorians please, leave history to actual historians WITH a degree

>Hitler is a trustworthy source on Hitler's motivations

>implying John Green has a degree in history

most wars aren't started for only one reason
ressources weren't the only reason for WW2
but ressources were a part in the planning of some aspects of the war for Hitler

>Poland was genociding ethnic Germans

lmao

>The germans lost at stalingrad

>nazism is not racist

Well mem ... wait you're right.

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>Nazis were not racist because they used Slavs and some black people as cannon fodder
>Now let me tell you about how the British were racist towards Irish and Indians

>they fought on the same side therefore they were cannon fodder

define racism

but the nazis were sure the most multicultural and diverse even only including european races

>WW2 was war of ideologies

Nigger that was only after the start of Operation Barbarossa when they realized they really fucked up bad and especially after the original Waffen-SS divisions began taking serious losses.

This, it was 4d chess

The Royal Army had like 400 ethnicities from Africa and Asia in its ranks and no one pretends that was some outpouring of multiculturalism

>The victorious side is always trustworthy on the losers

>The Nazis weren't planning on genociding Slavs because West Ukrainians, Czechs, and Slovaks were allowed in their military

>Nazis
>Genociding slavs
I see you learn history from Hollywood movies.

>haha don't worry slavbros we'll just be pushing you guys all the way out of your lands to make more room for us

He literally wrote a book about what he wanted to do

Post-modern literal theory were a mistake.

Kek, fucking Finland

>1/4 of Belarus's population just coincidentally went missing in the three years the Germans occupied it

>Slovakia and Croatia not included
Good job braintard

well it was
hitler's entire plan was to conquer russia and use its resources (both natural and manpower) to fuel a massive racial empire
hitler was very conscious of the united states and he admired its expansionism and living standards

Russia is fucking huge and largely empty. Plans for relocating some slavs after the war does not suggest genocide.

Not saying it doesn't exist, but is there any documentation of Germans actually planning any genocide or mass killings?

Stalin's fault 3bh

>Duh communists hab been commitin genocide fo 2 decades?

>Oh well, we gotta ally wit um to kill da germans because we can see in duh futah dey might do it too

>dis border dispute gotta tuhn into a wowd wah

>Plans for relocating some slavs after the war does not suggest genocide.

Forced relocation of large groups of people never pans out well for the people being relocated. Examples include: The Armenian Genocide, Trail of Tears, Expulsion of Germans from Eastern Europe after WW2, etc.

You can't jump high because I can't jump high.

Example of German plans for mass killing of slavs?

That's funny. The first country in WW2 to make a pact with the Communists was Germany.

What's funny about it?

>We're going to "relocate" them without killing them!
>Whoops, it turns out they don't want to leave.
>Dammit, our grand plan is foiled, there is nothing we can do!

Because Wehraboos try to make it sound like everything Hitler did was to fight the communists, and that Churchill was somehow pro-communism. The reality is far different.

>da joos ar my best fren

>who else gibs us da communism and duh pornography an du banks and gib my son a sex chanj wen he wus 5. o i almos fogot al duh afwican an awab immigant hu rapd my dawtr. im glad dat so many ar in my gubmnt hu hav dool citezinshp in anuduh cuntry too

Are you saying it's ok to ally with genocidal expansionist commies because Hitler did it first?

Funny..

Not even hitler was stupid enough to invade them.

So all you can do is make up a little story about what probably would have happened, according to you. Very good.
IS there any documented proof of these plans, or is just something people say could have happened?

Replace "Probably" with "Definitely." The idea that you can forcibly relocate millions of people peacefully is utter nonsense.

Wow, green! That means genocide! Everyone knows that.

>getting a history degree
Ironically, this is true brainlet behavior

Is there any documentation of the plan to kill all the slavs in that land?

Enough of you're time traveling future seeing.

Any relocation plan would inevitably require mass killing to make it actually work.

fpbp Guy's a hack

You are literally retarded.

Why would Hitler invade Finland? Finland was actively working with him against Russia. He had no reason to attack them.

Germany would have crushed Finland, and that's not meant to be an insult to Finns.

It's literally impossible to forcibly relocate millions of people without killing most of them in the process. It cannot be done. Even if you consciously tried to avoid killing, it would inevitably happen.

>not getting a degree in something else, but accumulating so many history classes that you take for easy As to boost your GPA (because history is easy and fun to you and not work) that you end up having enough history classes to double-major and still graduate in the year you were going to anyway

why do the dutch keep saying they have the most SS guys when even we belgians have more... the eternal hollander...

>americans were the good guys in any war

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger_Plan
>1.) The war can only be continued if the entire Wehrmacht is fed from Russia in the third year of the war.
>2.) If we take what we need out of the country, there can be no doubt that tens of millions of people will die of starvation
Read Wages of Destruction brainlet

>Bulleev me, it wudda happened.

So there is no proof. Got it.

>Wages of Destruction
Not this shit again.

The proof is a clear historical precedent that forced relocation ALWAYS results in mass death. Even "peaceful" relocations tend tend to be far from bloodless when all is said and done. But when you're talking about literally millions of people, the killing becomes an absolute certainty. People can't just disappear.

Oh sorry, I forgot, anything produced without the supervision of Herr Goebbels is clearly a lie

>German economy was a lie, there was no miracle, they would totally COLLAPSE in two years if not for WW2 trust me goy
I'm at the point where I treat everything an Anglo wrote as toilet paper.

God, I hope someone strangles the life out of you.

>Spending all your money on weapons that you don't export is a viable long term economy

Germany was a net exporter you goof.

They never recovered to Weimar levels

In 1935, 8% of Germany's GDP was devoted to armaments production and other military expenditures. By 1938, this ballooned to 17%. Only a brainlet would consider this to be a sustainable course.

Weimar Germany was a net importer, the trade balance was so shit Hjalmar Schacht aimed to fix that before anything else.

Nice context you troglodyte.

Depended on the year, in 1924-25 and 1927-28 they were a net importer but in 1926 and 1929-32 they either broke even or were a net exporter.

Dosen't really matter when they owe 12 billion in promissory notes to their own bank

Where are you getting that from? Tooze I assume? Because it's wrong.

By 1960 103% of the economy would be armaments.

His sources are W. G. Hoffmann, Das Wachstum der deutschen Wirtscbaft (Berlin,
1965), 816-28; and A. Ritschl, 'Die deutsche Zahlungsbilanz 1936-1941', VfZ 39
(1991), 123. If you've got anything to counter it I'm all ears.

>jews are a trustworthy source on Hitler's motivations

>Hitler is a trustworthy source on the Jews motivations

Not including the asians, indians, and africans.

It wouldn't be genocide in the technical sense (but there would definitely be mass deaths) but it's almost literally no better since you're forced to abandon your homelands or assimilate to foreigners.

Tell ya what, i'd believe internal German documents from while they were confident they'd win over post war stories from people who need Hitler to have been as evil as possible.

WWII is the only time jews have run into problems

>It wouldn't be genocide in the technical sense

Yes, it absolutely would be. The definition of genocide used by the UN explicitly includes forced relocations of large groups of people, specifically to stop this kind of bickering.

I didn't believe until now, the left really cant meme.

Read Overy, read literally any other nazi historian. they'll tell you the same shit as tooze

>read Theresa Wobblybottom she'll tell you the same thing as Angus Turtlecock and Nigel Gayshire

>the allies and their actions had no part in the formation of the nazis!

>implying
Literally every country there was either a dominion (Essentially indepdendent legislatively), or a crown colony, also, gibraltar is 100% british.

Why is anything written by an Anglo automatically bad?

>The Treaty of Versailles still applied was harsh

>Mein Kampf is meant to be taken literally.

Because it doesn't agree with his views.

>largely empty
Did you consider the reason for that?
No one can survive properly there?

/pol/ hates the truth.

Left: German
Right: Anglos

>be rommel
>get a division or 2 with about 200 tanks max
>constantly outnumbered 2:1 at least
>britbongs just shit out more and more and more tanks, doesnt matter how many you destroy its replaced in a week
>meanwhile your tankers sink, your get reinforcement once in half a year

yea totally not about resources

The brainlet is saying the war started over resources, not that they didn't effect the outcome

>americans LARPing as nazis

Almost half of Belarus' population was Jewish

what is mefo bills