Hey Veeky Forums, I have a confession to make. Today I was that guy who critiques other people's form at the gym. I was squatting in turns with this young kid who was doing quarter squats with probably twice of his actual max. His knees were trembling and all the pressure was at his knees. I told him to deload and go for parallel. He was kinda grumpy and said "ok"
Does this violate proper gym conduct?
Ryan Cook
Nope. "Young kid." I think 99% of them want to be "educated" by someone more experienced.
I see tons of bad form with seated D-handle rows, kettlebell swings, side shoulder raises...
>most dudes at my gym are older, so I let it go
Elijah Hill
I'm quite often in a dillemma as to whether or not I should give people advice or not. I see so many people being retarded in the gym.
I always give people advice if they ask me, but I know that I would get annoyed if someone tried correcting me on my form (which obviously isn't needed of course ;^)...), and so I don't really give advise or correct people. If people are extremely retarded I just watch them and kek internally
Kevin Smith
Yeah, younger people sometimes ask for advice and I'm happy to help but this was the first time I initiated this conversation. Kinda felt like an asshole but this kid was hurting his knees and gains right before my eyes man.
Hudson Taylor
Fuck him. Let the iron do the culling.
Tyler Myers
you're mom wants to be "educated" by someone more experienced
Jason Ross
>giving unsolicited advice at a gym
forwhatpurpose.exe
Hunter Gray
I think it's fair enough. In general, the bigger/stronger you are, the more weight your advise carries (hue)
So I hope you at least squat 4 pl8s and deadlift 5 pl8s for reps
Nolan Roberts
>Let the iron do the culling That should be a battlecry in Warhammer 40k.
Juan Kelly
My squat is weak af actually. When people ask for advice it's usually at upper body days lol. I'm genetically built like a gymbro :(
Jordan Rivera
Me too, except my squat is pretty strong.
Wyatt Robinson
yep
Benjamin Brooks
As someone who's relatively new to lifting, I would welcome that.
James Lewis
no one want's to talk to you they want to work out and be left alone.
Hunter Lopez
If someone reacts poorly to advice, that's their own problem. If you can't take some constructive criticism then you shouldn't be lifting in public in the first place.
I've been lifting for 3+ years and someone at my gym recently complimented my form but suggested a tweak because he saw a slight hint of something that caused him an injury in the past. I was glad to talk with him and we ended up being bros who shoot the shit every now and then.
This is how normal gym interactions work for people who aren't egotistical faggots.
Eli Collins
unless the person with bad form is my friend i'm not saying shit.
people act like assholes if you try to give them advice, so let them snap their shit. they'll learn
Lucas Allen
>shoot the shit am I autistic for not liking casual experiences like this? I generally prefer group activities like working out or playing video games with multiple people, but talking about light casual things with strangers doesn't come naturally unless it is about the activity that we are currently doing talking about personal things is uncomfortable with strangers and it's annoying with people who you know and constantly whine about the same thing that would have been solved or avoided with the advice you had given then numerous times before.
Brandon Sanders
You're fine man. You were just trying to prevent an injury. If he is upset, that's his issue.
He could've just said "No I'm gonna keep quarter-squatting." and finished his routine without being upset at all.
Caleb Adams
I'm the guy you responded to; i usually avoid small talk as well, but it came naturally with this guy and he's someone i would probably be friends with outside the gym. When i said "shoot the shit" it's mostly cracking jokes or making fun of loud egolifters.
Jack Jenkins
don't give advice unless specifically asked. You have to remember that your average gym-goer cares more about their ego and their numbers than they do about doing things properly. Criticizing a guys form, especially if he is in a group or with his girl is a personal attack to him.
I once had a bad experience with this guy who insisted ATG was too deep for me and my girl to go, and he just wouldn't let up about it. by the end I simply told him he was wrong and squatted more than he did anyway.
Austin Reed
I've done this a few times, but I *always* start with, "Hey, would you mind if I gave some unsolicited advice?", which puts someone much less on the defensive. Acknowledge that you know you're being 'that guy'. They always say yes, and then you're not so much in the position of annoying them, and they're generally more receptive to what you have to say.
And obviously, dont try to fix their entire squat in one conversation; just give a few cues
Samuel Brooks
also, what says about groups is extremely true -- if it's two buddies, you might be able to give a tip or strike up a conversation, but if it's 3+ dudes, or a guy and his girl, do not bother, they'll be too defensive for the advice to penetrate.
a girl on her own is tough, because she's going to be defensive no matter what unless you're already friends
Parker Russell
>acknowledging womens existence when they are at the gym
shiggy
Jack Lewis
I think a good course of action is to do your own exercises with great form, make great gains, and by that lead with example. If someone does something dangerous it's best to tell them though.
Brandon Powell
Yes it does violate conduct. He clearly wanted to do it his way, you need to leave him to it. If people want advice, they'll ask somebody. Since he didn't, you probably just made him feel insecure, more insecure than he might already feel.
Never do this again.
Grayson Diaz
half-repping double or triple your actual max is not safe. he did him a favor.
Brayden Foster
I've been offered advice twice, and both times, I just responded with "ok" and kept doing things my way. They seemed a bit pissed, but they walked away and that was that. Fuck off OP.
Wyatt Rodriguez
I usually ask people in the form of a question. Like if I'm worried about their foot placement, toe angle or whatever I'll say "That's pretty a pretty wide/narrow squat, do you prefer that or?". This way I'm making casual conversation and giving them the option to ask for input, I'm not saying "you're doing it wrong" which nobody likes, and maybe he'll think about it and make adjustments on his own. That's as far as I'll go, I leave the rest to them.
I do lift in a smaller gym, I probably wouldn't bother if I went to a big, commercial one.
Samuel Watson
As if a girl ever did some thing halfway worth correcting at a gym
Henry Barnes
That would piss me off more than just giving advice, it sounds passive aggressive and bitchy.
Michael Bennett
No, you probably saved that kid from a free ticket to snapcity. Most of the people that are they when I workout are pretty good about most of what they do and have given me help when I started earlier this year, I really appreciated it
Dylan White
I saw a girl deadlifting and overextending/hyperextending at the low back at the top. I asked if I could give her a piece of advice, she said yes, then I told her to stop overextending. She followed my advice.
Josiah Green
Yeah, this is how advice should be offered. Most people (myself included) would be understandably unenthusiastic about someone who comes up to them out of the blue and says "You're doing this exercise wrong. I know because I just read a T Nation article about it." When you offer unsolicited advice, people can easily tell whether or not you're doing it out of a genuine desire to help.
Lucas Morgan
I would welcome it. If i do shit wrong and dont notice it, it would be neat if someone told me.
Cameron Edwards
Youre fucking autistic if this is how you live life.
Wyatt Ross
I saw two retards holding a single 25 plate each and walking around with it over their heads.