The greatest mistakes in history

We wouldn't be 50 years behind because of people like fdr and lbj.
So yes, it would be a trivial matter to grow a person with a modified pituitary gland with your exact physical preferences.

So, you're not wrong.

Hardly, you'd still be the same anti social awkward shut in.

>In a democratic society how can you possibly justify denial of suffrage to half the population based on an accident of birth?
see: >tl;dr
The same way that you don't permit non-citizens to vote. If one does not have an interest in freedom or the republic, they should not be allowed to vote.

>muh virginity
Oh please women are hated because their primitive brains combined with gaining influence in society means the slow destruction of it.

see:

Outstanding post

No not really. I'd have a submissive virginal wife to do with as I please.

>well you're sexually incompetent! So there!
Want to know how I know you're just an insecure woman?

All women are whores.

Not when there are fatal consequences to their whoring.

>If one does not have an interest in freedom or the republic
See this argument worked in 1800 when most Americans actually lived a republican lifestyle of small landowners and independent craftsmen. In this case, the man and the woman are part of a relatively independent economic unit whose interests are (ideally) uniform and whose spheres are clearly delineated by the natural course of their work.

This is not the case in 1900. The populist movement was the last gasp of the independent self-employed citizen fighting against the changing economic landscape into the mass-production factory system and the limited liability corporation business model. In the new economic system people are no longer independent craftsmen and landowners but equally interchangeable wage-earners dependent on the vicissitudes of the business cycle for their bread. In this system there is no clear delineation between mans and womens place because the factory system recognizes no difference between them.

You cannot marshal out republican arguments when the republican character of the country no longer exists.

>If one does not have an interest in freedom or the republic, they should not be allowed to vote
So on the one hand you're making the highly idealistic argument that citizenship should be a privilege with it's own significant obligations to always act in the interests of the republic rather than self interest, and not just something you get for being born in the right place. Yet then you just want to blanketly give that privilege to all men and no women? That's ridiculous and arbitrary, good citizenship is not decided by chromosomes.

>republicanism requires pseudo-feudalism
nani?

There were elements of coherence, but I don't think your explanation is valid.

Not just letting the Dixieshits peacefully secede, America we would have been far better off without them.

How? Arranged marriage wasn't a thing in the west that went away with suffrage, in the early 20th c. you still had to go out and find a woman who actually liked you.

They do hold the country down, but there's no telling how having a Continental rival would have changed history. A big part of America's success is due to it's geographic isolation. Imagine if the USA and CSA fought each other in ww1.

>the highly idealistic argument that citizenship should be a privilege with it's own significant obligations to always act in the interests of the republic rather than self interest
It's always in ones own self interest to vote themselves power, but it is in everyone's interest that no one is voted power. So yes, citizens have a responsibility to not be faggots.

>and not just something you get for being born in the right place.
If I had it my way, citizenship would require 3 generations of only citizen ancestors who were citizens for at least a decade before the birth of each child. (and a 51% time based residence requirement)

>Yet then you just want to blanketly give that privilege to all men and no women?
To do otherwise opens the system to abuse.

>That's ridiculous and arbitrary,
No one cares. Thermodynamics has it's roots in equally 'ridiculous and arbitrary' derivations and experiments, and yet it works.

>good citizenship is not decided by chromosomes.
And yet the brain is effected by those same chromosomes.

I'd argue the emancipation movements gave new life to a western civilization that was at the end of its glory.

There would be absolutely no reason to fight them unless they started shit. In fact they would have been economically dependent lapdogs anyway.

> Imagine if the USA and CSA fought each other in ww1.
Harry Turtledove pls

"better to have an interesting race to the bottom than to enjoy the stability of the peak for all of time"

>There would be absolutely no reason to fight them unless they started shit.
What, you mean like what actually happened?

The world won't stand still, you would do well to learn this. Nothing can last forever.

>If I had it my way, citizenship would require 3 generations of only citizen ancestors who were citizens for at least a decade before the birth of each child
What problems would this extreme imposition solve?

Nothing feudal about it.

Republicanism as an idea has always been predicated on a free and independent citizenry which is why you have writers from Cicero to Thoreau opining about the dangers of wage earning. Someone who depends directly on another for his livelihood is neither free or independent. Early America closely embodied this ideal where the vast majority of citizens were self-employed landowners or craftsmen and thus independent. A situation where family lived in a relatively insular economic unit whose interests coincided thus it makes sense voting by 'head of the household' rather than each adult. By the turn of the 20th century that character was gone and had been replaced by sprawling urban cities teeming with wage-earners in factories.

In a modern mass-production factory system a man and his wife are not united in the same economic unit working for the success of the household but individuals each working separately in some factory or business for their own individual wages. In this system there is no good reason to exclude women from voting because they are interchangeable with men. Women no longer interact with society as one part of an economic household with united interests but an individual engaging individually for their own wages the same as men.

Neckbeards like OP were a mistake

I don't think there's a genuine, truly defensible way to say that women's suffrage was a mistake. But I can't help that women are greatly to blame for the worldwide swing to the left and the adoption of socialism throughout the world. Not in every situation obviously, but for most western democracies.
Idk if there's scientific proof that women tend to be more compassionate and empathetic with the plight of the poor and needy, but I can't help but think it's true.

>The world won't stand still
Yes, but we can make sure that we do.

>Nothing can last forever.
If you bother to think ahead it can. The problem that let leftism enter american politics is that the constitution is too permissive of violation.

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>Idk if there's scientific proof that women tend to be more compassionate and empathetic with the plight of the poor and needy
researchgate.net/profile/Simon_Baron-Cohen/publication/232430614_The_Essential_Difference_The_Truth_About_The_Male_And_Female_Brain/links/547cdb7a0cf2cfe203c1fde2/The-Essential-Difference-The-Truth-About-The-Male-And-Female-Brain.pdf

Idk about that, I think it has more to do with western European governments needing to do something to keep their people from overthrowing them in favor of communists. That was never a problem in America, which is why it has laughably poor social welfare and labor security. Back then people didn't yet know that communism doesn't work.

>the adoption of socialism throughout the world.
What the fuck are you talking about?

non-socialists states:
Republican states in america
Poland

Socialist states:
Basically everywhere else

All empires fall, that is a constant of history. To think you can be the exception is hubris in the extreme.

Women won't stay servile forever, what do you do in the face of devastating mass action?

>socialism is when da gubbment duz anyfing
Every single one of those states are capitalist as fuck.

the enlightenment

I think he meant things like universal healthcare and generous unemployment insurance, not proletarian dictatorships.

Why?

i like science and technology and all but the invasiveness and spiritual shallowness of modernity is honestly not worth it for me

>All empires fall, that is a constant of history.
Who cares? Empires fall because they try to get too much clay too fast or give the state enough power to cause it's collapse. Name a state that has fallen from inaction (military conquest doesn't count).

>To think you can be the exception is hubris in the extreme.
Or, it just means I'm content with permanent stability.

>what do you do in the face of devastating mass action?
Men have X and Y chromosomes. Artificial embryos can be made. Artificial wombs are about 10-15 years from being used on humans.
We ignore them because we can make as many child sex slaves as we want without them.

fpbp

More like you’d be the pussywhipped submissive husband.

>50 years behind because of people like fdr
ebin

I disagree completely. Although it hurts, reaching a point of existential crisis is not a bad thing, but rather a sign of our maturity as a species. There is no "divine spark" granting special value to a living mind. No object has any intrinsic value beyond what WE choose to assign to it.

at least 15 years of the depression were a direct result of FDR's actions. Add to that the efforts of LBJ and the nature of exponential growth, and you get about 50 years of economic and scientific progress killed.

So now we've gone from "suffrage was a mistake" to "we can and should exterminate all women"? You really shouldn't try to turn your deluded misanthropy into an ideology, it makes you look ridiculous.

So we're going to get rid of half of society, eh? And still somehow remain a democracy while we're at it too! Please explain how you're going to get people on board for that one.

Allowing lobbying groups to exist

If women had no voice there would be peace in our society. The eternal vagina needs conflict, it craves it as the deep thought and mediation silence induces is an unnatural thing and their minds just can't handle it, that's why they can't stop talking.

>>we can and should exterminate all women
>these women are getting uppity and demanding we ruin everything to appease them
>Fuck it, ignore them. Here is why we can ignore them with no ill results.

>Please explain how you're going to get people on board for that one.
It's simple. Child sex slaves.

also:
>but I don't want to have a sex slave who is a child
modified pituitary glands, problem solved.

You are right Woodrow Wilson was a terrible president.

that sounds tyering, like what are you reading

>The greatest mistakes in history

Instituting devil worship.

youtube.com/watch?v=0FAOUvR3IfI

Probably one of these. If not, then this one.

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Explain please

"the words of the constitution are meaningless, the words of the constitution are what we say they are."
The death of the republic.

>Shh...he's just sleeping!