Being a murse

Yo Veeky Forums I'm a low level nurses assistant, just under a CNA (maybe we're called orderlies but idk) I essentially watch patients for 12 hours straight and make about 20k a year doing it.

I was wondering for all the male nurses here,
>is it rewarding?
>Do you make a comfortable amount of money?
>Can you stay Veeky Forums doing it?
>Any tips on becoming one?
>Pros and Cons of Being one?
>Are most murses gay?

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being a Veeky Forums person in the medical field is hot af senpai
just marry a doctor or some other medfag and you'll be fine

Do you think 20k a year is a lot? Because I think it's not much higher than minimum wage.

I said I'm under a CNA bruh of course it's not a lot, it's above minimum wage however. I make about 11 dollars an hour depending on the day I work and working 72 hours a pay period (2 weeks) I make roughly 20k before income taxes.

Minimum wage (raised to 9.10 two days ago) given the same perameters in this state would yield 17k after taxes.

A CNA (I'm taking the course in twenty days) makes 13.46 starting out at my work, 14.46 at nights, which is about 27k a year before taxes. Not bad for someone who isn't even 20 yet no?

If you are working 12 hour days 5 days a week i think it's less than mimimum wage.

17k a year before taxes* it would be 14k a year after taxes which is barely above the federal poverty line and hardly livable in a place where your car is your lifeline

>nurse
unless you're a CRNA you're a cuck
have fun taking orders from people kek
meanwhile I'm going to be a pharmacist and get to live life on easy mode and still get to wear a white coat

3 days a week dude, nothing like having 4 day weekends.

20k/120 hours a pay period/26 yearly paychecks= 6.41 an hour

If I worked that I'd be making 6.41 an hour which is not only ridiculous, it's illegal. You think I'd wipe sick people ass for that? God no.

Have fun not finding a job bitch boy, you really think a glorified pill counter / drug dictionary is in high demand?

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Who's the real cuck now? Who cares if I take orders when I actually have demand for my job, high school teachers are more likely for employment than you.

Britbong murse here

>rewarding
In a way, making people better feels good. Fighting middle managers, idiot relatives and shift patterns feel bad
>Comfortable amount of money
Close to top of band 5 and I feel like I can't spend it fast enough, but desu it's shit wages for a degree/professional, OT is great way to earn though, a few bank shifts paid for Christmas and New Years. In other parts of the world I understand that nurses receive better compensation. NHS pension is ok though
>Can you stay fit
If you find the time to go to the gym and resist the biscuits and chocolates ever on ward then yes. There are 2 types of nurses, fit nurses and fatties with nothing inbetween
>tips
Do what ever is required to qualify in your country, any work experience helps
>Pros n cons
Too long to list really, ultimately it depends on your personality whether you find it rewarding or not.
>Murses gay?
Only a few murses where I qualified and the trust that I work, I think one I know is gay, more lesbo nurses desu. Occupational therapists are usually gay in my experience.

I would never be a murse because I have pride.

You're unironically doing bitch work.

You make less than Subway employees in my state.

It's "not bad for someone who isn't even 20," it's the bare minimum.

>tfw no murse bf

Do you live in New Yawk Or California? The cost of living in the midwest is a lot lower. Especially in my city.

that's fucking terrible money dude. I was on 30k a year when I was 16. But, my country actually has a liveable minimum wage.

I am an AIN and work work in 2 private hospitals. I have only 6 months left before I finish my diploma. I don't mind the work but its not something you can do forever. Being a male nurse is pretty awesome because you work pretty well with other men. The con is that you have to listen to women's shit allll the goddamn time.

I will do my nursing degree in about 12 months time because the money and conditions are better as an RN. But I'm single and don't have kids so anyone who says nurses don't make good money is full of shit.

My brother is 12 months post grad and making 65k a year. But in Australia we get taxes out the ass and most of his wage go to tax. Goddamn socialism.
But I like my job and my future to come.

>20k
Low but ok...

>clapistani dollars
Holy shit thats literally poverty.... £16k
My mum earns that working part time at a beareau de change.

Sorry bout your life breh.

Yeah nothing more noble than working at a Wal-Mart Pharmacy telling diabetics to take their $1000 water pills, fuck I think telephone salesmen are more appreciated and reliably quick than a pharmacist.

The point is that you're not in such a great position as you evidently think you are.

I'd be embarrassed to make 20k, no matter my age and no matter if I lived in Shit Stains, Iowa.

>A female doctor marrying a male nurse

>he doesn't know male nurses are all gayfags

lmaooooo

20k at age 19, having education payed for by employer to make 27k by the end of next year

Potential to make 55k+ in less than 5 years from now, not a bad position since my rent is 400 a month

>embarrassed to make 20k, yep definitely big city prick you are. Cost of Living dramatically effects local wages sure 20k for you may mean total financial destitution, but for me it means self sufficiency and the ability to party and live comfortably without much financial foresight.

pic related

>this salt
kek
>not realizing that pharmacists can do other things besides working in a retail pharmacy
top kek

You're UNDER a CNA? Jesus, I can't even imagine what that's like. CNA's are treated like shit already.

Medfag here enroute to become a doctor. I'm not an RN but my mother is and I've looked into it myself. Become an RN. It's pretty easy in comparison to a lot of the other work out there. It's a low level of education and none of the education is too hard. The hardest classes you'll take are Microbiology and Anatomy & Physiology. It makes decent money (around 70k) and is stable and universal as a job.

You can absolutely stay Veeky Forums while working and while becoming one.

Tips are just to do well in school and pay attention. For the schooling, some of it may seem pointless, but it's all to help you better understand your job, and is very applicable.

Pros:
>good money
>pretty easy to become one
>you can continue schooling to become a Nurse Practitioner (which is essentially a doctor)
>not as stressful as being an ER doctor

Cons:
>you'll get annoyed at how little the doctor does and how much more he gets paid
>you'll have to work with annoying coworkers and medical assistants who think they know more than they really do
>doctors get priority over you; if the doctor you work with doesn't like you, even at a personal level, you're gonna have a rough time. so learn to get along with people, especially the doctors
>everyone will think you're gay

Are most nurses gay? No but you are you dumb faggot. No but there's actually a lot of sweet puss around when going for nursing just because of how many females there are. And they're generally more open and less introverted making it even easier to score.

Have fun counting pills dude

>3% (slower than average)
>So are you

>tfw Au.D.

>No but you are you dumb faggot
Yeah I know, I wanna score with sweet murse buss so what?

>Have fun counting pills dude
For six digits right out of school, I will.
And then I'll become a pharmacy manager and make even more.

OP here
>UNDER A CNA?
Yeah, we're referred to as sitters commonly, though that's not my title, as for being treated like shit, not so much except by patients. My expectation are low and I do the toileting like CNA's for brownie points and respect.

The people who give the most hell are the drunk dicks in inpatient care that are being combative, because they're out of their head from withdrawal. Forget AA just shack up people in a room for 12 hours with someone with quart mania and that'll set them straight. ER dicks aren't that much fun either.

>3%
>Out of school

Eat a dick you blindly overconfident piece of shit, enjoy the debt too you may make six figures but no way in hell is a pharmacy gonna hire a little dickseed with no work experience waving his small degree around like his even smaller cock

But if by some chance in hell you, a 4channing vainglorious incel makes it to that point, tell me when I can refill my vicodin you obama crony fuck

>is it rewarding?
If you like helping people then yes

>Do you make a comfortable amount of money?

CNA's are borderline minimum wage employees where I'm at. (11.50/hr for overnights)

>Can you stay Veeky Forums doing it?
Definitely

State University is an ideal place to get your learning in.

>Pros and Cons of Being one?
>Pros

PLENTY of overtime available.

>Cons

Most facilities are deliberately understaffed (hence the overtime) and you will almost always be working short.

Also, an LPN with a bug up her/his ass can have your license pulled quite easily and the accusations don't even have to be true because there is no due process(in Massachusetts, other states may very.) A common under-the-bus tactic is neglect because easy as hell to have someone set up.

>Are most nurses gay?

Depends on the facility.

Only 20k a year? I was a healthcare security officer watching psych patients 12 hours straight making at least 28-32k a year.

>this mad
o i am laffin
have fun being a literal scrub while I do no work for 6 figures kek

I don't work with patients who are admitted to psych that's a separate facility at my work which requires more training, however I do work with people who are under psych evaluations on their way there. I get paid less because of my job description which is basically just monitor somebody so they don't get hurt, I don't technically have to do anything else, but I do because I feel like a dick if my patient is bathing in their own piss.

Why aren't you in college?

I'm poor and the US education system is broken so I'm banking on my employer to scholarship me the way through. Otherwise I'm relying on the CNA wages to putt me through the rest while living a comfortable life without being mired in work and school.

I could work twenty four a week and make as much as a minimum wage full time worker, not a bad way to pay your way through school only working two days a week. I make a dollar more on weekends too

Murse here
It's a good job. I go home happy and go to work happy. Certain units require more walking than others, which counts as cardio. Staying fit can be difficult if you work nights, but if you can go to the gym after/before work, then no problem. Just meal prep.
I work at a county hospital, which doesn't pay as much, but I still live very comfy on that money.
If you wanna be a RN, learn how to study and take tests well. The prereqs are what eliminate and discourage a lot of people that want to go into nursing.
The pros: helping others, and learning. Hell, i have had beers paid for me when i go to a bar and people find out I'm a nurse
Cons: dealing with docs who are asshats. Dealing with family members who have done "research" or family members that think they know medicine because their spouse/brother/cat is a doctor.
Also, pro/con is moving fat patients, because it's a good work out, but also a hassle and the odor.
Also I've only met 1 gay male nurse

OP here, and in an effort to shit all over Veeky Forums conduct, I'd like to thank all of you for your serious, eloquent and honest answers. Past all the shitposting you were able to give me actual answers and It makes me proud that Veeky Forums isn't just full of neckbeards pretending that they are CEO's who are also trained in Gorilla warfare for the Navy SEALS

Seriously guys, thank you and thank anybody who posts something direct after this you make this website great :)

neck yourself you faggot

No prob. Good luck with your studies m8

Doing shit jobs like scrubbing toilets will earn you no respect unless your boss knows you're constantly the one doing them or you volunteer to doing them in front of the boss. Even then, it's bargaining leverage, not real respect. Use that scrub work as a way to score some easy shifts while you're starting school, or looking for a raise.

If your coworkers stick you with scrubbing shitters constantly, they don't respect you for going the extra mile, they think it's OK to stick you with bitch work because you're a bitch.

It's about becoming an asset, not a martyr.

toileting is not scrubbing shitters bruh Its wiping ass, which is something every CNA and nurse has to do on a near if not daily basis.

>toileting is not scrubbing shitters bruh Its wiping ass, which is something every CNA and nurse has to do on a near if not daily basis.
Breh we all have to wipe ass daily.

I was a nurse for 7 years in Texas, here is my experience.

>is it rewarding?
Depends a lot on where you work, I worked in ER and ICU and you really feel like what you do makes a palpable difference, especially when patients try to contact you after years just to say thanks.
>Do you make a comfortable amount of money?
I used to make 40$ hourly, it was ok.
>Can you stay Veeky Forums doing it?
You are supposed to, many nurses fall to vices just to keep up with stress, so you end up with overweight chain smoking nurses. I found lifting away the stress with the occasional drink much better.
>Any tips on becoming one?
Go to your local college
>Pros and Cons of Being one?
CONS:
-It's a female dominated area, so you have to learn to deal with them on a daily basis.
-Even if you can work under pressure and have nerves of steel this career will eventually get to you
-Nurses are also subject to malpractice lawsuits
-You have to juggle relationships between patients, medics, patient's relatives and other nurses.
-If you have some semblance of character get ready to be called doctor all the time.
PROS:
-You get to meet and know plenty of interesting people, you can get tons of useful connections this way.
-Relatively well paid
-If you are a guy there is plenty of chance to court.
-You learn plenty of useful skills, not just related to medicine.
-Despite most popular misconceptions there is a lot of opportunities for professional growth.
>Are most murses gay?
Honestly I have never met a gay male nurse but some people will assume that from you.

good luck and godspeed user

>Honestly I have never met a gay male nurse

Absolute bullshit.

Murse here
>is it rewarding?
Depends

>Do you make a comfortable amount of money?
Define comfortable. I do feel like I should earn more compared to the responsiblity a nurse has. But money is not an issue to me so meh. Don't plan on getting rich though.

>Can you stay Veeky Forums doing it?
Yes. I think it will make my cutting easier since I walk a lot. Alsobeen able to up my calories since starting with a new job.

>Any tips on becoming one?
Prepare for graveyard shifts and whatnot. It can knock you out if you don't sleep properly. Get the habit of sleeping consistenly as a student from day 1. It's going to help you in your cIlinical trials and with your gains. It's always good to ask your self from day 1: Where do I want to work? What am I good at? What do I want with this job?

Being a nurse takes a lot of personal and mental foortitude and patience with not only the people you work with but also yourself. As a student, know what your responsiblities are.

>Pros and Cons of Being one?
Cons: lots of job opportunities just for being a male. Also a lot of fields to work in and specialize in afterwards. good opportunities to work overseas.

>Are most murses gay?
Probably not more than the average population I think.

I've been in the hospital a couple times for surgeries over the years, and I have a ton of respect for the work ethic of the nurses and PCAs.

I was in for 7 days at one point, and this PCA worked 6 of those days from 7 pm to 7 am, and when I asked her what she did on her day off, she told me she went to work another job. It was pretty fucking nuts.

Then again, I know another who works at a plastic surgeons office, and she has a lot more reasonable hours.

Fucking lmao. Could never work in a female dominated industry

I have never met any openly gay at least.

>tipping the nurse
Fucking America, I swear.

Every male nurse I have ever met has been a bro. Occasionally you get the guy that's been doing it for 40 years and is your standard rambling old fart, but that lifetime of caring for people has at least made them nice. You want a good job that's always in demand? be a nurse. You want an easy job? Don't be a nurse. You have to be smart enough to not kill people accidentally, and patient enough to not kill people on purpose. Healthcare is my life.

t. ER Tech/EMT/Army Medic/Med School student

I'm a mailman and I work 8-4:30 5 days a week. I make 60k a year and have a 40k a year pension waiting for me at 58.

NHS HCA reporting in

Progression from HCA to RN is damn near impossible here, applied for 3 universities and got instantly rejected despite working in ED, various outpatient units and wards for 3 years which is putting me off continuing.

How is the progression for you guys stateside?

Either go all the way and become a legit RN/RNP or find another profession man, you're gettin hosed

>is it rewarding

Yes, you're helping to heal the sick. But don't think you're some kind of savior, you're basically always going to be a doctor's whipping boy.

>do you make a comfortable amount of money

Yes, especially if you work nights or incentive shifts.

>Can you stay Veeky Forums

Obviously, it's the same as any other ~40 hour a week job.

>Any tips on becoming one

Yeah go to school and pass your tests

>pros and cons of being one

Pros:
Make $$$
3 12-hour shifts
Hospital staff are under constant stress so the entire thing turns into a free-for-all orgy, basically

Cons:
Disimpacting bowels
Have to do what the doctors say when they say it
Hospital staff are under constant stress (with the whole "keeping people from dying" thing)

>Are most murses gay

Yes

But how am I getting hosed? I'm making 20k a year and living the Kansas dream! After my employer gets my my certificate I'll make THREE whole dollars above minimum wage!

>being a nursecuck
just be an EMT and drive around all day

Harsh man. What were your grades like leaving college? Maybe do an access course to prove you can keep up academically?

aren't male nurses paid a shitload because of their ridiculous hours and very low respect in a social/professional setting?

If being a cuck wasn't hard enough, those 80 hour weeks will definitely kill any semblance of masculinity/gains you have.

I fuck around 30 hours a week on nightshift in a grocery store and make like near 20k.

Here in the States you apply to a college, not just ask the ministry of beurocracy and hope they will allow it.
You pretty much take the ACT and as long as you score in the twenties you can get in at some crappy d2 school.

Why would a profession of low respect get paid "a shitload"?

Yeah you're actually making great money for under 20. Don't listen to insecure retards trying to make you feel bad.

Get your CNA asap and start getting some hands on experience while making good money.

Go to nursing school for a 2 year associate degree and get your RN to start working soon, then grab your bachelor's online.

It's rewarding, you make a great amount of money, pretty much middle class income with no children, that's like high class with children. It's a stand on your feet job so you'll stay fit if you don't eat like shit. Pros is that you'll be surrounded by women and you'll be swole, constant compliments and you get to fuck a few if you feel like it. Most nurses are straight in my experience.

Poor people can take out low-interest loans to go to college. It's fine if you don't want to do that, but please don't misrepresent the state of US education to foreogners, they have enough reasons to hate us.

>low respect in a social/professional setting

This is kinda true, before I got my degree I was tight with a few junior doctors, now they are a bit more distanced. HCAs tend to look up to me though.

Non medical staff don't really follow that hierarchy in social setting and I get respect, but you are always get the 'male nurse lol why didn't you become a doctor?'

Male nurses get fast promotions though.

>this rationalization

Whatever gets you through the day i guess

Lmao xray technicians is were its at m8

>80 hour weeks
>low respect

t. someone who has never been in a hospital

They've cracked down a shitton on forced OT for nurses in the last 10 years

And as far as respect goes, it's definitely not "very low." If you actually know what you're doing, you command respect from anyone that isn't an attending.

The worst you get is rednecks snickering about it when you introduce yourself but who cares, because you're being judged by people who blew themselves up with fireworks.

im sure your percieved social value as a male nurse is rock bottom compared to all the doctors/surgeons/therapists there.

I mean, you're no bathroom janitor or something, but you're def very low on the totem poll in the hospital setting.

>'male nurse lol why didn't you become a doctor?'

Well? It's a good question.

3 years in training with student loan paid and bursary vs 5 year degree out of my own pocket plus 8 year being a senior doctor's bum boy

That's just what being a nurse is, it has nothing to do with being a male nurse. By virtue of your job title, you've got to do grunt work. What I mean is that if you know your shit and act like a man, you'll probably be complete bros with the doctors.

That being said, you're definitely lower on the professional totem pole than any of the people you mentioned.

Another murse here. Disclaimer: Haven't been one for too long, and I'm strongly thinking about quitting for good because I don't like my job, so take my salt with a grain of salt.

>is it rewarding?
It can be. When it is, it feels great what you're doing. There are a sizeable chunk of people who truly appreciate what you do, and it feels extremely rewarding to help them get better. I work in observation though, so it's mostly getting the same chronic smokers back for their 17th heart cath and giving antibiotics to elderly women with UTIs, which doesn't feel quite as rewarding.

>Do you make a comfortable amount of money?
I have heard many different things on this. I'm about a year out of nursing school, working at a hospital, and I'm making about 48,500 without overtime (in Texas). According to some, there is high upward mobility in pay, and according to others, there isn't. From what I've seen thus far, it sounds like most of the upward mobility and money comes from going on to get your masters, because most of the nurses I work with get paid no more than I do (other than the $2.00 extra for being charge) despite some of them having been there for 5 or even 10 years. I don't know how being in a union state affects this.

>Can you stay Veeky Forums doing it?
Yes, I see a LOT of really fit male nurses, and far less so on female ones. Any time food is brought to the unit for something, it will be something like candy or pizza or cake. You must resist the urge to shit all over your diet, even on stressful days. Most of the turbofatty nurses have McDonalds and a Dr. Pepper for lunch every day, and they don't exercise on their off days. Pack a healthy lunch and stick with it; that's the main thing.

>Any tips on becoming one?
At this point in time, hospitals and nursing are absolutely obsessed with customer service, but as an assistant, you probably know this already. The main tip I have is that if you don't know something, ask.

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Guess it depends on where you live. Here in Aus, you're paid pretty decently with fantastic benefits.

>very low respect
What does that even mean? That people spit on me when I comment that I'm a nurse? I don't turn heads in a conversation like a neurosurgeon does, but people don't automatically write me off because of my profession. Anyone who does probably isn't worth associating with anyway.

>being a cuck
Critical misunderstanding of the profession

>gainskiller
It is if you're a bitch.

yeah but females don't suffer from it, they slut around with the doctors and other higher value men no problem.

It's probably cause of the pay disparity though, doctors make like 200k a year, surgeons and other specialist I assume also six figures while male nurses prolly make like 30k I think?

It's not so drastic in every other social setting (joe blow in the office isn't THAT much worse off than his supervisor or middle management, same for bartenders/waiters vs managers/higher ranking chefs).

plus you're fucking surrounded by 6 figure professionals in a hospital settings, while in other work environments it's only the 1-3% that are really far above you.

My fiancée is an RPh in retail and makes ridiculous bank. We're talking pharmacy manager salary (look up median) and doesn't actually run the pharmacy. We also live in an area with a low cost of living, so the money goes even further.

She has to deal with with the angry public and asshole doctors constantly, so i hope you have thick skin. Outside of stress in dealing with the public, she really likes her job. Keep at it bruh

Meanwhile, i'm an engineer and literally make half her hourly rate lol. If i could go back and do it again, would go into pharmacy. Her classes (pharmacokinetics, pathophysiology, etc.) were super interesting. Math is way more simple than hydro engineering, but the amount of memorization is pretty insane.

Breddy gud for under 20, but gtfo asap. Get more training like another user mentioned, and use the experience as the hospital's bitch to your advantage.
t. medschoolfag

>male nurses prolly make like 30k

An RN? An RN makes like 70k a year.

why is op making 20k.

It reaaaallly varies by area and hospital.

There's 3 major systems around me, and the difference in pay just on the MS floors is about 20k. I can't even imagine what some specializations get.

Just become a nurse, dude.


Pays decent. Some of my clients make as much as 80k a year being trauma nurses. Most of the others make 50k minimum.


Long hours but lots of free days.


Also, something stupid like
>95% of nurses are female

And most are single... And desperate.

I went to one of their parties and it was damn near all eyes on me just for being fit and about a 7/10.

Study hard though.

Because he isn't an RN. He's two steps lower than one. Doesn't even require a degree for his job.

That's definitely true. I used to get play when I was just doing stock at a teaching hospital.

The only floor that had any abundance of men was PT, and that was all students except for the head.

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>Pros and Cons of Being one?
Pros:
Extremely rewarding at times
Solid money
Lots of flexibility on where you work and what you do
In high demand

Cons:
It's a customer service job: if you've worked retail, you get the same bullshit stuff from the same bullshit people (and expect to take a LOT of flak from patients for something a doctor couldn't be assed to do)
Also like retail, expect people to expect you to telepathically know information about them ("IDK what medication I take, but it's some blue and white pill" "what do you mean you don't know what it is")
As a male, expect to be called on for any and all heavy lifting. Time to test those functional deadlifts on that 450 pound fat lady who fell on the floor
A lot of doctors are just generally assholes; a lot of nurses are also assholes
Significantly higher potential for injury than a lot of other professions
Nursing school is highly competitive and very fast paced, and there is no safety net for those who can't keep up
Hospitals are a business- they can and will cut corners on staff. Your ratios are going to climb and they're going to make empty promises about how staffing will improve "soon"
Not that this is specific to nursing, but you will be blamed if anything happens, even if it's because you don't have the supplies or staff to do what you need

Whether you consider 13 hours a day 3 days a week to be a pro or con is personal opinion. Personally I hate it: you don't have any time to do anything else that day, and if you go back to work in 10 hours, you only have time to try and sleep before the next shift.

>Are most murses gay?
I'm not, and most of them I see aren't, but I think there's a somewhat higher percentage of males who are gay in nursing than there are in the general populace.


Personally, I'm done with nursing. It's not rewarding enough for the stress.

How does Veeky Forums feel about physical therapists?

>11 dollars an hour depending on the day
holy fuck I make $14 an hour shitposting on Veeky Forums all day

your job blows

Work surgery and avoid most patient interaction. One patient at a time and they are asleep. Get access to all the female scrub techs who think scoring a nurse is a goal and avoid being surrounded by nurses who think they are too good for you and only go for doctors.

Be a travel nurse and make $1500-2000 a week after taxes. Only downside is moving every 13 weeks. But that allows you a new pool of girls with every move.

Surgery also isn't a 24 hour staffed unit so you can get to the gym easily. Just can't go if on call, but call can be avoided if working at a surgery center.

Overall being a surgery murse has been pretty sweet for me

He seems to be a low-level entry-level babysitter. Some guy they pay to sit there and make sure nobody keels over in the night.

It's gotta be at hospice or something too, because he's not angry enough for behavioral.

Emt here, you guys always look depressed in the pharmacy.
Sorry nothing interesting happens and you have to act superior.

>im sure
No, you're not at all, actually.

>decent pay
>Surrounded by cock hungry women 24/7
>Can travel nurse


Sounds perfect to me

>being an EMT over a nurse
We make shit money in America. If you really want to make a career of it, then get your medic.

Then go to PA or nursing school when you realize even medics get paid shit.

20 year retirement? there's a spot open in my little town for the carrier, applied for the exam

Advice over nursing/pa/med school?

I'm 32 with a change in career. Started out agriculture/animal science because had some childhood dream of vet science. Worked in a lab doing fuck all for a few years and interior painting on the side.

Now I need to act before I get too damn old to stop being a professional student

OP here

Thanks user this is a very well rounded reply.I'm interested in knowing a bit more. did you have a life long desire to be a nurse and worked in the field before studying nursing, or was it something that you studied first before gaining clinical experience? Did you just sort of fall into studying it as "I guess I'll do this" deal or did you plan ahead in life?

So far I like my job, but I've been at it for a brief time. How long have you been employed as a nurse?

>wiping old peoples asses for living
no thank you sir

Learn what FAFSA is and start an application. Easy free Associate's Degree.

Complete your BA/BS with subsidized loans and grants.

If you're smart about your education, you can pay off all your debt within 5 years of becoming a doctor, 3 years if you're good with money.

It depends on your degree. Sounds like you have science under your belt, but your science classes would have to be within the last decade to count (depends on the med school. Look into their specific prereqs) Med school would actually prefer you as a nontraditional student with life experience. They are starting to get away from their practice of only accepting 22 y/o Asian biology majors with 4.0 GPA's.

If you don't want the administrative headache of being a Doctor, just go PA. Same fucking job practically but with half the post-bacc work. Still respected, still saving lives, but you don't have a fancy title. And you don't have to specialize like doctors (Cardiology, Medicine, etc) so you can work for any Doctor in any field. Don't do nursing at your age. That's a level of bullshit that you have to have been introduced to at a young age. People are going to see you as a 30 something year old nurse and wonder why you only know as much as a fresh grad.

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