Hey guys. I want to share my story as a beacon of light for all depressed autistic virgins here.
> i was a standard failed normie, friends but no success with girls > after the zyzz phase i thought i was enlightened > I coped very hard I used a heavy steroid stack of tren A, masteron and sust > got huge and shredded as f. I thought it would help me get laid > it didnt unfortunately. I sarged a lot did a lot of cold approaches but my success rate was zero (low on tinder as well, some swiped me (i used a body pic as 1st) but after seeing my face stopped replying). > i tried negging and shit but nothing > then i was very depressed > on my lowest of lows i threatened a teacher which got me kicked out of school > wanted to sudoku desu. no money no girls and kicked out of school. the depression made me stop going to the gym even though i was still cruising on roids > after researching threads on SH and other facial aesthetics sites i found, it's called www.analyzemyface.com where doctors could analyze your face and tell you whats wrong with it
> i got the gold and they shat all over my face telling me i have a "hyperdivergent and maxillofacial growth pattern with sagittal retroposition" and that i would need a CCW bimax advancement with chin surgery. i folowed up asked them where the fuck can i get it. and how long it takes. > it made me depressed hearing whats wrong with me but hopeful and in the end SAVED me because it gave me a plan what to do. > so i made an appointment with a maxfac doc as they recommended > on the same time being in long term therapy because severe depression dystemia and suicidal ideation i mentioned that my jaws are fucked up. > the therapist and psychiatrist both wrote expert opinions describing how i need this surgery after explaining it to them > the NHS / health care covered my entire surgery and even ALLOWED me to go abroad to a specific doctor that was suggested to me because only he could treat it the way it was suggested > he did the surgeries first because the occlusion was good (not perfect), usually they do it with long braces treatment but sometimes it's not needed. but because of my history, it wasn't reasonable for my case. > this was 2 months ago -- people dont see my as swollen anymore (i heal fast), everyone treats me better, my entire family, friends, strangers. i had 2 tinder dates that went well, 1 from coldapproaching and i'm regularly meeting up with one girl. i am sure that she will become my gf soon (my first gf). i made it. i could not be happier. this changed my life. i wish i had known about this before. slowly my depression is going away, i feel like i am ALIVE for the first time in my life. TL;DR: autistic virgin got fit first, didn't help, got jaw surgery and fixed his life.
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Angel Carter
it was just your confidence :) girls love that
Austin Robinson
Congrats dude, children gonna be ugly though. Being ugly doesn't mean your life has to be shit though, you focused too much on things in your life that require aesthetics.
Lucas Campbell
so post pictures of it
Zachary Johnson
a lot of problems with the lower third comes from environmental issues, mouth breathing eating soft food
Christian Butler
Post your face fgt
Carson Taylor
Can we get some progress pics user? I'm asking because I'm in a very similar situation I'm also from the UK and getting double jaw surgery in the next year or two. My facial aesthetics are decent ATM but I know they can be much better, I have an underbite.
Blake Flores
Post face
Ayden Rogers
Post jaws
Liam King
I don't want children so I'm happy!
alright guys. here is a before/after consider im NOT FAT. i was in shape on the left and had great sixpack.
Luke Gonzalez
Epic result.
Connor Robinson
>dont want children might as well kys faggot
Jaxson Murphy
Nice. Cost? My jaw is already good but I'd be pissed if I had an incel jaw like that. Any scars or is it done inside the mouth?
Jason Nguyen
thanks. i'm so extremely happy that i got this facial analysis done.. probably the best decision in my life. the rest went fast after that!
i think it was about 15000, but it was covered by NHS. no scars just inside the mouth. life is brutal with a jaw like tht
Jackson Martin
recessed chins arent genetic. Im not saying everyone has a model jaw naturally, but a healthy normal looking jaw is what every human usually has, and its the modern times melting down our faces and giving us crooked teeth.
Easton Allen
also post body
James Brown
How did her entire face get so much prettier after only jaw surgery?
Christopher Rivera
I'm pretty sure she had lefort iii, google it
Dylan Anderson
Only pic I have from that time period ! I was slightly more shredded after that time And still had that face
Andrew Thompson
the maxilla bone affects your entire face and your jaw. And your jaw affects your entire face too.
Changes in eye shape, nose shape, forehead shape and obviously jaw/chin shape = all maxilla bone dependent.
Easton Hernandez
This Have children, jaw genes dont work like that its largly environmental and you carry hundreds of dif jaw genes theyre unlucky to roll a shit one
Dylan Diaz
>tren >for this
Robert Lee
there are no shit jaw genes. All shit jaws are envinronmental. Not that chad jaws are natural, but a normal healthy jaw is something every human has in his "genes".
Everything that looks fucked up and recessed is due to envinronmental effects, including OP's incel jaw pic.
Henry Garcia
That's amazing.
Asher Mitchell
>tfw 5'6 instead of 6'1/4'' because of nurture
Isaac Brooks
I quess you are right so i agree with u
Logan Collins
i know you are joking but even height can be envinronmental. 200 years ago everyone was a manlet, 200 years later everyone grows to a giant. and genetics dont change in 200 years, not even a tiny bit.
Adam Wood
fucking shit op, seems like i need it myself
Henry Lee
>Roiding for this KYS FAGGOT
Tyler Cook
I'm not joking. I got a formula from a Dr and were to took your parents height and according to it I would have grown to 6'1/4'' BUT: >I was born too early and I weighed only 2.6kg >I was very nervous/anxious when I was a kid and a teenager = high cortisol, which have also been shown to prematurely close growth plates (I stopped growing at 16 MAYBE 17.) >I was had sleeping problems my whole life and when the year when I was 16 I probably averaged like 5-6h a night >I also didn't eat much protein as a child >I was very fat bordering to obese when I was 16-18, higher aromatization-> higher e2-> prematurely closed growth plates, not sure if e2 was so high that is prematurely closed growth plates but being fat is probably bad anyways
Kayden Collins
Grats, OP. You look much better now. I want one, too, but I don't know where to go for consultation. My teeth are crowded, so I also need braces. How old are you?
Lucas Thomas
well yep, everything you have listed there can affect height in a human.
also i think being in a deficit your entire life as a spooky skeleton is a bit worse for height gains than being fat.
sucks yeah, make sure your kids do everything right and grow up to be chads
Luis Myers
when my future wife is pregnant I will give sneak var and mk677 into her food desu gotta start before birth
Alexander Brooks
Honestly dude, it didn't look that bad before. You look genuinely happy in the after which I think really contributes to the aesthetic.
James Morris
Holy shit people are shilling on Veeky Forums now
Isaac Phillips
fuck of Dr. Mew you are a scam and no one takes you seriously
Logan Watson
>roiding for this
you dont even look ripped and youre at an angle lmao
Bentley Ross
I ate like shit growing up and my jaw is godlike, explain that faggot
Brayden Davis
did you mouthbreath?
Alexander Wood
incel jaws dont have much to do with food with what or how much you eat, user
actually it has nothing to do with food
Brayden Cruz
Nope, I thought all people had their tongues resting on the roofs of their mouths until I found out some of you faggots keep it resting on the bottom of your mouths. Tried putting it there and felt unnatural,
then what does it have to do with
Chase Sullivan
She could have been moonman
Daniel Ross
Mouthbreathing and slacking jaw is prolly reason number 1, with shitty body posture following as number 2.
You can have a shit posture and still a good jaw if you kept your mouth and jaw shut as a kid.
If you were mouth breathing for years in your puberty and childhood = fucked for life.
Also there are always exceptions obviously, as usual
Andrew Davis
also the tongue thingy yes. That alone saved you from incel jaw life
Also interesting that resting it on the roof is natural for you, never heard of that.
Brandon Adams
Fuaaark I'm gonna get that fucking surgery and fix my shit. I am not afraid of pain anymore.
Cooper Taylor
Yeah I guess I got lucky. Never mouth breathed and had good posture. Even as a chubby kid. But are you telling me most people don't have their tongue resting on the roofs of their mouths?
Thomas Foster
When I swallow my tongue sticks to the roof, is this the mew position?
Jack Scott
85% prolly rest their tongue on the bottom of their mouth brah.
this recessed chin/crooked teeth phenomen is not even 100 years old. One of the reasons why my grandparents/parents never needed braces and had healthy jaws. primitive brazilian tribes have perfect teeth and model like jaws.
Its the modern world turning us into compensating incels lmao
Elijah Reyes
this entire thread is a fuckin g advertisement, thats why youre not posting your face, thats why youre posting urls of sketchy websites that immediately want credit cards.
Dominic Lopez
Careful there buddy. Seems you're quite sensible on how you look and it may be dangerous for your mental health basing so much of your happiness on aesthetics. You reminded me of this movie:
Yet coping gymcels will still deny that FACE is the main thing that matters
Liam White
Yes, pretty much. Think of it like how you would make a click sound with the tongue. You suck the tongue up all along the roof of the mouth and then pull it away and that seal you've created makes a click or pop sound.
The mew position is having the tongue rested in that suck position 24/7. At first it feels like a lot of effort to suck the back half of the tongue up but after a short time it becomes very natural and comfortable.
Most people make the mistake of just touching the tip of the tongue to the roof just behind the front teeth. It must be stressed that the whole tongue needs to resting up and along the roof.
Jaxson Hall
Cheers. How long till I do it without effort? does feel weird.
Blake Flores
Which country do you live in? I can't imagine jaw surgery being covered by insurance in the USA.
Angel Russell
He said NHS so it would be UK. But he might just be a shill.
Aiden Wilson
Hard to say. Could be a few weeks, could be a few months.
For me, at first, my tongue ached at the back and there was a lot of excess saliva and it all required a lot of constant reinforcement and mental effort.
After a few weeks though it just felt normal. These days I don't even realise I'm doing it. I shut my mouth and my tongue automatically and effortlessly sucks itself up to the top of my mouth and rests there.