Powercleans for people who never stepped a foot into the gym

>powercleans for people who never stepped a foot into the gym
>Olympic weightlifters are not squatting correctly, they should squat low bar
>drink a gallon of milk per day

What is his fucking problem Veeky Forums?

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>powercleans for people who never stepped a foot into the gym
starting early is the best way to learn anything. you're not any better prepared to learn the power clean if you spend 6 months doing other shit, although he does require you to learn the deadlift correctly first.

>Olympic weightlifters are not squatting correctly, they should squat low bar
god forbid someone tries to do anything differently.

>drink a gallon of milk per day
good idea if you're in the target demographic, i.e. underweight, young male who starts lifting.

>What is his fucking problem Veeky Forums?
sounds like a pretty smart guy if you ask me

>powercleans for people who never stepped a foot into the gym

And this is the same guy who says DB bench is better but sticks with barbell because DB would be too hard.

>>powercleans for people who never stepped a foot into the gym

actually the first few weeks of SS don't have power cleans

>tips fedora

he doesn't say it's better, he just describes the DB version and lists some pros and cons, then explains why the barbell version is used.

Hes the mememaster.

>In fact, the dumbbell version of the exercise, which actually predates the barbell version due to its less specialized equipment requirements, is probably a better exercise for most purposes other than powerlifting competition

>What is his fucking problem Veeky Forums?
I dunno. Having read Starting Strength, all I can conclude is that it's misnamed, since it all seems to assume that you've done some remedial work beforehand, but I know for a fact that the DYELs of Veeky Forums haven't, then they fail at SS and claim SS is a meme. What you guys should be doing is a month of high reps (20-30) per set and low weight, plus classic floor exercises like plancks and glute bridges, and maybe pushups, plus some regular cardio, to kickstart the adaptation process BEFORE starting on Starting Strength. Then you'd have some aerobic and muscular endurance and be able to handle Starting Strength.

>guzzles the Veeky Forums kool-aid all day errday
Stay weak and fat

He's autistic, American and doesn't really know that much about strength training beyond the most rudimentary level (and even there there are legitimate grievances)

that's from an old version of the book. he has changed that in the 3rd version, which says says: "The dumbbell version of the exercise, which actually predates the barbell version due to its less specialized equipment requirements, involves a greater amount of instability, which is inherent in having two separate chunks of metal waving around in the air over your chest."

if you need to work on "aerobic and muscular endurance" before you do stuff like sitting down and getting back up, raising your arms above your head and picking something up from the floor then something is seriously wrong with the way you've lived your life.

rippetoe is a guy who has a lot of experience with training beginners and getting them strong fast for football or whatever

when he tries to extend this knowledge/authority to other things, you get some retardation

once you graduate from beginner programming, you should start listening to those who have actually trained intermediate and above lifters

Sheiko, Greg Nuckols, Chad Wesley Smith, etc

>if you need to work on "aerobic and muscular endurance" before you do stuff like sitting down and getting back up, raising your arms above your head and picking something up from the floor then something is seriously wrong with the way you've lived your life.
YOU JUST DESCRIBED 95% OF Veeky Forums, THAT'S MY POINT!

rip has trained plenty of intermediate and beyond lifters, way more than nukcols for example will ever do. you think he kicks people out of his gym once they graduate from the novice stage? you think he was above a novice lifter himself? your argument is retarded.

>thinks you can be a DYEL skellington who never picked up anything heavier than a gallon of milk in his entire life, walk into a gym, load up 3pl8 squat and 4pl8 DL, and bang out 5 sets of 10, no problem, no consequences
literal autism

no but you can start with a 20kg squat and 40kg deadlift, right?

>powercleans for people who never stepped a foot into the gym
The ways he teaches power cleans is odd to say the least
>>Olympic weightlifters are not squatting correctly, they should squat low bar
Don't know if he actually says this, but there's reason they don't, I don't blame him for saying this :) if he did

>your argument is retarded
Projection was never so strong

Rypptoe is king

>empty-bar squats and deadlifts
Think about where you are: Veeky Forums scoffs and ridicules mercilessly if you actually admit to doing this. Veeky Forums convinces the DYELs that know nothing other than what they read on Veeky Forums that they have to CONFORM to arbitrary 'standards' that have nothing to do with reality or practicality. Then they either fail, or they get injured, and likely you never hear about any of that because they know they'll be shamed for their failure, their fault or not. Likewise you try to recommend a rational, sane way for a total beginner to get started, and you're scoffed at and ridiculed mercilessly for that, too, because you're not conforming to the arbitrary troll-standards.

Don't you get it? So much of Veeky Forums 'culture' is driven by trolls and troll-memes that it's practically impossible for the DYELs skellingtons, who need to improve more than anyone else, to actually get started and make real progress. Then, convinced they're 'genetic failures' or that it's due to them being 'manlets', they turn to steroids.

>doing a full deadlift
>beginners
"No".

PULLS TO KNEES AND BLOCK PULLS FOR YOU

>powercleans for people who never stepped a foot into the gym
he's called "coach" for a reason
he teaches you
not his fault you're not reading the book

>Olympic weightlifters are not squatting correctly, they should squat low bar
so you ACTUALLY didn't read it?
SS does lowbar squats for strength conditioning, not weightlifting competitions

>drink a gallon of milk per day
only if you're a skeleton because he knows you'll overreport on what kinds of calories you're actually taking in
if you're skinny you don't know how to eat enough to grow, GOMAD fixes that

rip's idea of an intermediate program is the dogshit texas method

this alone invalidates all of his thoughts on intermediate and above programming

if you dont start with these weights, dont even bother

Actually Veeky Forums tells DYELs that know nothing to read the fucking sticky and do SS.

I did those things and now I'm strong.

If you can't handle such simple things, go to fucking reddit and join the rest of the untermenschen.

>rip's idea of an intermediate program is the dogshit texas method
you do realize texas method is not for the average intermediate joe?
it's only to be done by people with great genetics who intend to compete in sports

post current body pic with timestamp

The fuck? Squatting isn't part of a weightlifting competition, squatting in fact is the cornerstone of weightlfting strength conditioning along with the pulls and presses.

>cookie cutter routines for everyone
Not everyone lifts with the same objective in mind, and this is not even considering genetic inequities and individual strengths and weaknesses nurtured over time. If you're dedicated to any routine you will get stronger, but it doesn't mean it is the most effective. Modify routines inspired by others instead of running the same bullshit as everyone else and you'll see better results.