If you actually think that this isnt overtraining let me know. I don't have a problem doing this I love being in the gym and pushing myself to the limit but I also want to get maximum results.
Sebastian Anderson
How long have you been lifting OP?
Anthony Turner
for 1 year now but we have always been doing this.
my partner has lifted for 3 years
James Thomas
i think thats solid op, add rows and deadlifts though.
>so i guess youre actually slackers.
Oliver Rivera
Friendly reminder that less is more. You make your gains when you rest. 3-4 day full body or an U/L split is best for natty gains. I wouldn't say your overtraining, you'll know if you're overtraining very quickly, but you may be robbing yourself of your gains.
Ian Thompson
>deadlifts >back exercise
You know how I know you don't even have a 180kg deadlift?
Charles Campbell
its because i like my spine sorry
Joseph Gray
And why does that mean you can't have at least s mediocre deadlift?
Parker Gomez
I wouldn't really say that's over training that's a little less then I do on back days and I do it twice a week. But I'm also used to doing army pt in the morning then going to the gym later in the day and I don't do pt anymore so idk
Jason Nguyen
Oh man you're gonna need some roids for that ridiculous amount of volume, jesus christ. The bulgarians have nothing on you guys
Easton Ross
heres what i see
>missing any kind of lower rep set >multiple rows using machines, instead of 5 or so sets of barbell rows(you dont need a bunch of different forms of the same exercise, especially not in the same day) >no deadlifts >way too fucking many curls, add another set of chinups, and only do 2-3 sets of one form of curls if you think you need more work for biceps
Nathan Russell
its a pull, and most people label it a back exercise even though it works a lot of groups. fuck you, and the semantics you base your arguments on
Brayden Hall
It's prime movers are literally the glutes and hamstrings, it's secondary movers are the quadriceps. Stabilizer muscles are lats, traps, and spinal erectors. It is literally a lower body exercise and putting it with a "back" or "pull" day is indicative of whoever made that program being a total dumb fuck.
Henry Carter
>and putting it with a "back" or "pull" day is indicative of whoever made that program being a total dumb fuck. >putting deadlift in pull is being a total dumb fuck stop embarrassing yourself
Sebastian Cruz
Please, elaborate, why should deadlifts be considered a back exercise and not a lower body/leg exercise. They literally activate all of the same muscles as a squat.
Carson Richardson
im not putting that shit on leg day. i feel lethargic as fuck after either squats or deads, im not doing them together
Anthony Thomas
>thinking pull = back holy shit you are dumb or a top quality bait, but i doubt you are that smart
Nathaniel Murphy
You're doing a lot of bullshit.
I can't tell if trolling or serious because I keep seeing posts like this pop up.
How much progress have you made in one year?
That's a lot of volume. Really is. Congrats. The problem is that you probably aren't tracking your weights for all of this and aren't increasing the weight.
Or, maybe you are tracking it- but you're barely increasing the weight and it's only on a few exercises. Reduce it to two pull motions.
You can either do one primary and one auxiliary or two primaries. Make it a point to drive up the weight of one every workout.
Do something like bent over rows and chin ups.
Bent over rows 6*5 add 5 lbs every workout. Chin ups 3*f. Add one rep to each set every workout. You're probably asking here because your results are dogshit.
Your results will continue to be dogshit unless you continuously improve your metrics, and the best way to do that is to measure them and not have so much volume that you can't increase them.
I wonder how people have such bad progress from going to the gym and then see shit like this and realize that people only have a plan and not a system. It does lower-body but has a locked out pull. It's like working the last part of the pull Range of motion. Think of it as a partial for an upright row.
Jackson Myers
What the fuck does it mean then you dingus?
>not deadlifting twice per week and squatting twice per week
Pathetic.
James Anderson
>not deadlifting twice per week and squatting twice per week that was never implied. no one could have implied anything about my routine other than i dont squat and deadlift on the same day
Brody Wright
pull means exercises where you pull the weight you turbomongoloid the fuck do you think it means?
Joseph Bell
>bar starts further from your center of mass >pull it closer to center of mass
Tyler Garcia
>what action you're doing matters >not the muscles worked or the actions the muscles are taking
You are literally retarded.
Logan Sullivan
>Back >No deadlift The fuck
Jaxon Gutierrez
>muscles function by pulling on themselves, which also pulls the bone sthey are connected to so you're saying every exercise is a pull? good to know, that means you were still wrong about a deadlift not being a pull
Lucas Cruz
professional goalpost moving right there
then criticize push/pull as a whole, not miscategorize deadlift as anything other than a genuine pull. you are still a turbomongoloid, turbomongoloid.
Thomas Martin
How DO you know if you're overtraining? I'm a one year noob vet with a similar ppl routine, pls help.
Camden Kelly
why are you so concerned with overtraining? do you have AIDS?
Tyler Clark
how often do you train? if you take a few extra days off and you come back stronger than usual, you are likely overtraining. its a lot harder to tell if you're doing too much in a single workout afaik, but focusing on compound lifts, and doing 2-3 isolation exercises on various muscles that need work is usually more than enough to gain consistently, and is practically the basis for any beginner to intermediate routine
Jackson Butler
Dat Rob Liefeld spine.
Lucas Moore
Solid OP.
Add heavy deadlifts to the top and weighted back extensions after... then lighter high rep deadlifts to the end.
I always like to start off with lower back and then hit upper, mix in some bicep curls, and finish with light deadlifts. I have seen some pretty decent gains following this routine.
Also standing lat pulldowns are the shit
Joseph Brooks
>DEADLIFTS ARE FOR FUCKING LEG DAY Veeky Forums YOU STUPID FUCKS
David Evans
You're not overtraining but add deadlifts
Daniel Rogers
either your squats or deads are going to suffer if you do that. thats probably the #1 reason deadlifts are widely accepted as a back day exercise, or because its a pull. fuck off faggot.
Luis Turner
>not having a deadlift day
Aiden Ramirez
t. DYEL with no work capacity
Also
>having a leg day >having a pull day >having a push day