What are you doing to maximize your natty test levels?

If I go donate blood (australian), does the blood test beforehand tell you your testosterone levels?

well, you probably are american so just pin some test and achieve this body in few months

No.

The blood test is only for potential bloodborn infections and similar, not a hormone panel.

THIS
You're basically paying for expensive urine, you're a fucking faggot OP. Stop taking Infowars seriously

Just go to GP and say you want to check your T levels.
Or if you're a pussy just ask for a blood test.

You can use Plastic containers and bottles, just make sure they're BPA and DEHP free

You do not need to pin?
So is that you in the pic?
If not why didn't you post your physique instead?

So after all this work, what is the result? Have your test levels improved? You did measure them, right? It would be a shame if you're doing all this bullshit without knowing if it's actually working.

>spending this much money on useless supps
Holy shit just buy test if you're this desperate.

Myabe it has more to do with an increasingly shitty diet and sedentary lifestyle than our fathers.

How often do you think our fathers (at a young age) played outside, compared to our gen who stayed in playing vidya?

THis is bro science bullshit and you know it, stop making excuses for your genetic shortcomings and lack of hard work

do stimulants stilll keep my natty status?

>dexamphetamine (legally)

No.

but why?

my hormones are still untouched. i just use it to keep my appetite in check during cuts.

>endorphins aren't hormones
>using medication to suppress your appetite is natty

Sorry user. Just go ahead and order some Tren already.

Checked trips

well i should, except im a pussy and would never do anything illegal.

those are for my adult ADHD, i just take a dose on the higher range of what i normally take.

that being said, if there was a legal alternative thats not too expensive, maybe.

>only 20 bucks for a months supply of dex

Aluminium has been linked with a range of diseases

>What are you doing to maximize your natty test levels?
>Any other ideas?
Eat more protein/meat, sleep more, work out harder/more than your already doing, have more sex and fap more.
>Fap only once a week
Fapping does not decrease testosterone and there's no reason to limit your faps
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation
>press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.1.6291
>anabolicmen.com/fats-and-testosterone/
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is.html

>the guy who has so little self control he has to copy and past the same links in every thread

Let people practice their will power you degenerate fuck

As for increasing test, eat a lot of fat. Fat is good for your horomones

actually think about whether or not you want to reverse those results. narrowminded and going against natural selection. this has been going on for a lot longer than 30 years.

>Let people practice their will power you degenerate fuck
The only thing you're practicing is how much you can believe a meme. What I said and posted increases test. Either deal with it and learn how to read or shut the fuck up.
>As for increasing test, eat a lot of fat. Fat is good for your horomones
I already covered that and more above

>10,000 IU vitamin D/day
>50mg zinc
>2000mg vitamin C
Why bother with such nonsense when you could just eat delicious beef liver and heart instead? Throw in some cabbage and other cruciferous veggies if you're worried about vitamin C. And get plenty of sunlight.

Test isn't what makes a man you moron. It's one hormone in your body and yeah it's responsible for many 'masculine' physical features as well as behaviors but you autists need to understand that your manhood is not contingent on this one lone hormone, it's based on how you live your life and make decisions, don't use 'much low/high test' as a scapegoat.

Also, is there any source for that claim

>do bro split
>5×12 for everything
>stair master cardio for gloots for sloots
>no porn jew
>no fap jew
>have an urge, get laid
>eat heavy, train hard

this. i think it's weird that nowadays when people think "manly" they imagine male models and bodybuilders.

>Either deal with it and learn how to read or shut the fuck up

Psh noteen personell kid

>Test isn't what makes a man you moron.
Yes, it litterally is what makes you a man.

Without test you will in fact have the hormone levels of a woman, lower then a womans in fact and begin to become more feminine.

do you look good though

Hot.

you have a very superficial understanding of edocrinology

Manhood and being male go hand in hand. 1/2 the autistic faggots on this board don't understand the basic fundamental concepts of being male, including you

>Psh noteen personell kid
Are you actually going to read what I posted or are you just going to shitpost and imply that I'm a fedora poster. Did you even read the post you're replying to or the one before it? Because he and you should do all of those things before talking shit

Ejaculating 1-3 times a day is actually more proven to increase testosterone levels. Any more than that and they start decreasing

After ejaculation testosterone is converted to dihydro testosterone (DHT). Masturbation does not increase testosterone before hand like having sex does. So yeah it will literally lower your test amount. Bonus fact! DHT is the hormone that causes male pattern baldness

You're seeing nofap from a merely physical reaction, do you even comprehend the self esteem boost you get from denying yourself a pleasure? Do you know how strong you feel when you can resist your own temptation? Do you understand how incredible it feels to have a sense of control in your life? Do you comprehend the sexual energy that accumulates in your body you can direct towards achieving goals instead of surfing for porn? Do you not fuck girls and feel like a kind when your dick is diamond hard and you pound that shit like a nigger in Europe? Bitch please take your bullshit links and copy and paste them up your boipucci

Ejaculating multiple times a day or week does the exact opposite.
As a matter of fact it lowers your test, lowers your bodies ability to use test, and increases your estrogen production.
The fuck?

>So yeah it will literally lower your test amount
Except it won't and you didn't read.
>So yeah it will literally lower your test amount. Bonus fact! DHT is the hormone that causes male pattern baldness
And again if you read and actually did the rest of what I said, that's a nonissue. And fapping's perfectly healthy and fine for you

whats ur bodyfat? if u have extremly much it can sink ur testo 50%talking about over 30%

Kid I did my bio chem degree on this stuff. Tell you what If you're ever round Trinity College Dublin I'll let you pull it off the library shelf myself.

It's funny that OP posted a blatant fake natty while insisting that you don't need to pin test to raise test.

Sure, kid.

>As a matter of fact it lowers your test, lowers your bodies ability to use test, and increases your estrogen production. The fuck?
It doesn't and I covered this.
>Kid I did my bio chem degree on this stuff. Tell you what If you're ever round Trinity College Dublin I'll let you pull it off the library shelf myself.
Sure and I'm also sure you can debunk everything I posted along with all the scientists, researchers and doctors that say that fapping's fine and I am ever around I'm not going to waste my time listening to your shitty explanation that I've already been over

Are you literally retarded or do you just not like reading research papers?
biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1477-7827-5-11.pdf
1-2 ejaculations in short order increases androgen receptor response, while 4 or more increase estrogen receptor response.
m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
No decrease in testosterone from ejaculating.
If you body stops using your testicles it doesn't simply allocate the testosterone elsewhere, it just stops producing it.
Increased periods of abstinence are associated with higher risks of cancer as well.

I thought 5000 IU vit D was the highest you should go in dull countries

1.Those male rats were having actual sex, not just jacking off. The hormone response form sex and jacking off are totally fucking different.

2.They measured the testosterone of a subject DURING and immediately after SEX. They didn't meaure them hours or even days after. RIGHT AFTER sex.

3.Fucking NO ONE knows what causes prostate cancer. There is a tenuous at best relationship between having sex ONCE A MONTH and lowered prostate cancer risk. That's it.

BUT it's been proven that constant masturbation lowers testosterone over a long period, and keeps it lowered.
That it downregulates androgen receptors
That it increases estrogen
That it shrinks your dick
That it speeds up the process of lowered sensation from your penis that circumcised men will eventually and inevitably have.

These are all facts.
I dare you to find one single piece of evidence against those.

>Those male rats were having actual sex, not just jacking off. The hormone response form sex and jacking off are totally fucking different.

I don't think we went through the evolutionary process of distinguishing between "Jack off ejaculation" and "sexual ejaculation". It's arousal -> ejaculation. Masturbation is a simulation.

retard

I didn't know how to properly masturbate to ejaculation until I was 20. Up until that point I was basically a beta herbivore male with a weak sex drive. After I learned I got a lot hornier in general and it improved my disposition. These No fap guys are beyond delusional.

>I dare you to find one single piece of evidence against those.
Fucking wrong asshole, you need to show the evidence proving those, not just spouting off Chinese and Christian antimasturbation propoganda.
Also not using your dick shrinks it. If you so to use it you literally lose it.

>BUT it's been proven that constant masturbation lowers testosterone over a long period, and keeps it lowered.
>That it downregulates androgen receptors
>That it increases estrogen
>That it shrinks your dick
>That it speeds up the process of lowered sensation from your penis that circumcised men will eventually and inevitably have.

Prove it.

none of that is going to do shit you gigantic pussy. Its amazing how you are willing to completely change your way of life because you're too scared of a needle

>That it shrinks your dick
>Prove it.
you just want to see his dick

It's been proven that the body knows the difference between jacking off and fucking.

The only people who think otherwise are fucking retarded.

Secondly you were just a weak pussy and jacking off will not make you less of a pussy or better person. IF that bullshit annecdote was even real in the first place.

You people have been stating over and over again that daily masturbation is healthy without a single shred of actual evidence of any kind. You've also been hoping that people wouldn't call you on it or be too stupid to read the studies that you post.
You are wrong.

Masturbation is not in any way a net positive for anyone except women who'll go fucking insane without popping their cork every once in a while.
Simple as that.

>It's been proven that the body knows the difference between jacking off and fucking.

where

>Secondly you were just a weak pussy and jacking off will not make you less of a pussy or better person. IF that bullshit annecdote was even real in the first place.

It is, how is it even controversial to say that you need regular (not necessarily daily) ejaculation as a healthy adult male? Your body's entire existence is predicated on the spread of your genetic material you stupid faggot. If that isn't happening it is a failed process.

Mental retardation: the post.

>You people have been stating over and over again that daily masturbation is healthy without a single shred of actual evidence of any kind.
>This level of projection
>You've also been hoping that people wouldn't call you on it or be too stupid to read the studies that you post.
It's clear now you haven't read anything anyone's posted if your going to continue this
>You are wrong.
More projection the only one who's wrong and needs to back themselves up is you
>Masturbation is not in any way a net positive for anyone
Except what what I and others have posted, science, and research has proven it is
>Simple as that.
It absolutely isn't and you have no idea what you're talking about

within the normal human ranges (marginal) testosteron has no effect on hypertrophy whatsoever.

only if ur actually deficient (bottom 1 or 2% of the population) upping your test will make a difference, but you should get a doctor to check it out and actually prescribe something(clomid,trt etc.) instead of taking vitamins.

nothing op listed is going to give you extra gains due to it upping your test levels. you dont need all those bullshit supplements or fucking organic soap for the porpuse of gains

how about you do some actual biological research instead of forcing yourself into some dumb useless routine/diet

Is that 8pack or 6

Tribulus
DHEA
Zinc
ZMA
Plenty of sleep

Physically I'm seeing results nothing crazy but mentally I feel way more mature when I'm boosting test

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i take sarms

If you do not have below average test levels than doing all of this will do NOTHING. In order to have test as a hormone have any of this crazy muscle building effect you need cycle dosages, like 200x of that of an average male.

>What are you doing to maximize your natty test levels?
I just pin 300mg/wk and claim natty.

Giving up masturbation has been shown to raise testosterone levels by a marked amount.
It also increases the bodies androgen receptors.
You will in fact get major gainz JUST by giving up the fapping habit and exercising more.

The only people who say otherwise have something to sell you.

Stop taking memes serious.

Even in studies that have shown an increase, it is marked as "insignificant" increase in testosterone which means no difference.

>The only people who say otherwise have something to sell you.
That's right, we have found a way to make people pay us money so they can jack off

You are broscience incarnate

....

There are multiple scientifically backed studies that say that you are full of shit.

Spinach and quinoa naturally have an anabolic steroid in them.

>ITT: how much damage to your body in order to barely boost testosterone

>drinking coffee means you're not natty
>smoking a cig means you're not natty

I don't think you know what "natty" refers to famalam

Post one.

placebo still has a real effect