Do NOFAP

What the fuck, why NOFAP then?

You don't, it's a fucking meme.

your test never decreases lower than usual after fap. stop with this meme

Because people have been brainwashed by a sycophantic self loathing Christian homo who is afraid of his own sexuality and therefore started a crusade against all male sexuality for anything other than procreation.

Because fapping gives you a free shot of dopamine, literally the only thing you do anything in life for.

Normally productive people do what they do because their bodies are used to knowing that constant focus and effort on something produced a steady supply of dopamine, and are able to focus on long term goals thanks to that.

But obsessive masturbation trains your brain to know that there's an easier way.

Why study hours each day, for months, just to get a couple dozen nanograms of dopamine, when you can get a bigger amount, immediately, just by masturbating?

The aspects of NoFap like test increase, super powers, and whatever they might peddle, are bullshit. The only scientifically sound effect is this one, especially for chronic masturbators.

Habitual masturbation performed to combat boredom, or in stead of actual important stuff, trains a brain to lose pretty much all of it's ability to commit to long term goals, on a level deep enough that it fucking shows up on CAT scans.

Fapping habitually literally changes your brain on a physical level.

It's not a meme.

Anyone who has done the 90 days has given strong feedback as to its benefits.

Not entirely sure how controlling sexual energy is a bad thing.

It more has to do with the way dopamine rewarding works in the brain, it isn't a testosterone thing.
I stopped playing video games recently and had the same exact results as OP. I haven't had the urge to look at porn or fap in weeks.
I started playing overwatch again and I started jerking to porn daily again, 2 days ago.
I would also explain why NOPORN works. You're still fapping but you aren't getting the extra dopamine boost from the visual aid, porn.

I'm guessing that the urge to jerk to porn is your brain fiending for a dopamine fix more than it is about sexual urges, IMO.

Yeah, but it has nothing to do with test.
We have enough retards on here who think "Durrrr, test= penis, so cum = test lost!!"

>Your anecdotal experience and placebo effect prove NoFap
Please, stop being such a faggot and post some real studies.

You guys are (somewhat) right. You're exaggerating the effects of masturbation in the general population, to be sure, but hyperbole for effect is allowed.
If you're a chronic masturbator, the same way if you have any other psychological addiction (TV, video games, porn, weed, etc) and it is negatively impacting your life because all you can do in your free time is indulge this habit, especially to the point when you begin to indulge it during times you should be fulfilling responsibilities, then yeah, maybe you need to quit the habit cold turkey to break the cycle. This is what NoFap can be good for.
Other than that, if you just jerk off once before bed or a few times a week or whatever, it's a total meme.

I didn't say there was extra test.

What I am saying is that there are a lot of benefits that people seem to experience while doing nofap.

>if you just jerk off once before bed

If feel the need to do that every single day you're still a dopamine addled addict.
Masturbating more than 3-4 times per week is a high enough dose of dopamine to make the addiction kick in.

The addiction derived from videogames and other 'habits' isn't even comparable.
The only thing in the list of examples you made that's actually true is weed, because like masturbation is gives you a disproportionate amount of "fullfilment chemicals" without having to do anything for them.

Not him, but at least in the short term there is no discussion on the reality that fapping makes you weaker.

Not in some bullshit broscience "less test" way, but simply because directly after exaculation your system is flooded with serotonine, which makes you sluggish and sleepy.
It's why people say that fapping helps them sleep, or why the stereotype of the dude fucking then falling asleep right after exists.

But if you're the type fapping every day, during the day, it means that you have hours every single day in which you have no energy and are just craving for some rest, even if you don't feel physically tired.

Again, please post real studies.

Im pretty sure that made any sense in your head,

Shoulve kept it in it.

besthealthmag.ca/best-you/relationships/why-men-fall-asleep-after-sex/
livescience.com/32445-why-do-guys-get-sleepy-after-sex.html

Again, this is only in the short term, but it still affects your entire life if you're the kind of person that faps every day, or close to it.
It's why people who masturbate often tend to be very unaccomplished in their lives, there's never the energy to commit to anything.

>placebo
Placebo is when you are fucking told that X does Y -- it's not placebo when after reducing the amount of times you fap to just once per week, you suddenly notice your life picking up.

I masturbate at least 2 to 3 times a day and I can attest to the truthfulness of this.

Masturbation fucks your head up.

Except you are making a conscious effort to not fap thinking things will improve and due to your attitude it does.

What's that called again?

>conscious effort
It became a conscious effort once I've started noticing the pattern, not the other way around.

Thanks for the links, but I don't see how can this be negative if you fap just before going to sleep, or if you'll recover briefly after.

I'm talking about studies that show real benefits of NoFap posted by some people here: confidence boost, better and stronger erections, increased testosterone in LT, ability to focus, etc.
Masturbation has been proven to be natural and healthy for years, if you manage to disprove it is going to be a real revolution.

>inb4 he fell for the Jew meme.

Yes, you definitely did fall for the Jewish tricks.

So when you started NoFap you had never heard of its alleged benefits. So why did you start Nofap?

There's an entire site and a slew of scientists whose only work is trying to show you this.

yourbrainonporn.com/

Increased test is bullshit, it's broscience that you must be clinically retarded to believe.
And all the other effects are caused by the brain getting a normal amount of dopamine.
Fap addicts are like crackwhores. They can do absolutely nothing in life because they need their high.

Also
>Masturbation has been proven to be natural and healthy for years,

Dude are you fucking serious
The amount of masturbation considered "healthy" by those few pseudo-studies that say it helps your dick and your prostate is like twice a week.
And even then, it doesn't say masturbation, it says "ejaculation, ideally sex"

>Calls serum Testosterone 'free test'
>calls free test 'active test'

Youre as bigger tard as he is faggot

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Think of it like taking a bath, you get clean, fresh and smell good, but if you start taking showers religiously your skin and scalp lose their natural oils, they become dry, and you could get dandruff.

Masturbating 2-3 times a week is cool, 2-3 times a day isn't, you waste time looking for porn, you waste time fapping, you waste time resting.

The "bliss" after masturbating makes you timid, you don't crave pussy as much, you don't feel like doing anything worth while or want to interact with anyone, you become docile.

The goal of living as a male is to fuck as many females as you can and spread your diseased genes whatever way or cost, but why do anything that betters your chances or improves your life and gets you closer to your goals if you can just open up a web page and see the raunchiest shit you'll never even get to experience in your lifetime and masturbate furiously to it.

NoFap is bullshit. You're just placeboing yourself, you fucking idiot. Of course, I should have expected as much from a moron who actually tried NoFap.

Also as user pointed out the dopamine balance in your brain gets fucked, you get used to the high, it's like telling a fat person how fucked up their body and their life is and why they should work on losing weight and getting fit, they'll just listen to you then go eat a bowl of ice cream followed by a chocolate cake, their bodies and heads are already fucked.

Being a fap addict is not the same as being a normal person with a normal masturbatory/sexual habit.
While I agree that cutting out fapping to people who are really obssessed with it (3 or more times per day every day), I disagree it's going to help at all to any person who is not an addict.

Ejaculation is the healthy thing, yes, but if you're not having sex, masturbation is a healthy alternative.

Yourbrainonporn is far from being a relying source, it's nothing but bro-science site promoted by a married couple with no medical background.

Christ, you are one dense motherfucker. There were times when I would be busy with certain things, so naturally would have no time for fapping. I used to have a lot of highs and lows in my life (especially when it came to gym: one day I would be repping 140 kg as if it's nothing, while the other I would be getting exhausted after a couple of sets with 120), so one day I just outright asked myself: what's wrong? One day was no different from the other, yet I kept experiencing those swings, until it fucking hit me: all the "lows" in my life coincided with me starting to jerk off almost every day.
I began making conscious effort to avoid fapping afterwards, and even though I'm far from being done (I sometimes still give in), I've noticed huge improvements to overall life quality.

I agree with you, but you're going against NoFap aswell.
Let's keep masturbation within a normal and healthy range.

Can someone help shed some light on why haven't I been at all horny after losing my virginity? It's literally been 2 weeks and I haven't felt the urge to touch my cock once. Also I think about killing myself more than usual.

The problem is that everyone vastly overestimates how many times is "healthy.

Like this guy , who under a guise of being moderate, probably thinks that fapping every day is not an addiction "because at least it's not 2-3 times a day".

Which is as retarded as saying "I may smoke a crack rock every other day, but I'm not an addict, a REAL addict smokes every day!"

Addiction is relative to the addict.

Should you completely abstain for as long as possible? Or fap evrry 7 days to reset the cycle?

Lost my virginity a year ago but it got soft before climax. Have had trouble ever since. Decided to do nofap. After 90 some days of no fap i hooked up with a woman and got a hard on by just kissing and ended up coming after 2 minutes then continued fucking for another 20 minutes.

Currently on day 15 of NoFap, and honestly I don't feel much different.

Probably because your arsehole is still sore

I'd say do it for as long as you can. If you are a chronic masturbator (i.e. fapping every other day or more), chances are, you won't last more than a week.
If you are still young, really consider your life goals now and start working towards them: fapping less makes you want to seek your goals, while seeking your goals makes you forget about instant gratification.

ha ha you got me good

Yes, I'm a dense motherfucker (I'm the user from the previous post but not the two other ones), do you know why? Because I also fell for NoFap, I also saw the benefits after two weeks of nofapping, my first month of NoFap felt amazing, I felt so full of energy, so clean, so attractive, so confident.
Even just fapping once a week was good, except for feeling bad and weak after the fap.

It all was great, it was as if I had discovered the Holy Grial. Until... my fourth long strike. It only took me 21 days, to start feeling the effects: anxiety, depression, lack of sex drive, no erections at all, baby dick. That's when I panicked and heard about the (in)famous flatline, that's when I decided to talk with a friend who is an urologist, and he told me that what I was doing wasn't healthy, that the penis tissue weakens with lack of use, which can lead to ED, and the penis starts becoming atrophied, also about the danger of not ejaculating.

I also measured my penis after I started masturbating again, it had gone from 15.5 - 16 cm to 14.5 - 15 cm. It's now back to 15.5 cm, but those were some terrifying days.

Why did it the first months worked for me? I can think of placebo effect and of briefly dating a girl with whom I was having regular sex at least twice a week.

;^)

Lol, that's me I'm the same guy. I don't fap twice a day, I'm more like 4 or 5 per week. But I don't find it that much for a horny teenager with a high sex drive who's not having sex.

Hm, did that doctor of yours happen to have last name ending with -berg?
Are you completely sure nothing else happened in your life that might have caused depression and anxiety?
Regardless, I'm looking forward to find out myself what happens.

It works for some people and it doesn't for others

Some people get way too fucking wound up without regular stimulation and release, but for some people it'll give them more drive and energy.

You should know how this works by now, guys, different strokes for different folks. Some guys need a few strokes, some guys need a lot of strokes, some guys don't need strokes at all.

It's common sense.

I tried no fap and I ended up just getting pissed off about everything and stressing out over stupid shit. I'm already high strung to begin with and I have plenty of motivation and energy to spare either way, so I don't need that shit. For people like me there's no noticeable benefit and the downsides are very apparent, however there will be people for whom there are very apparent benefits and the downsides aren't noticeable.

You can pretty much take that logic and apply it to anything that will mess with your body's hormone balance and production. There will be some people who have a better time with it than others.

That's my advice, don't believe what a stranger tells you on the internet. Look it out for yourself. Ask a doctor, that's important, if you want only those whose surnames end in -sson, -sen, -poulos, -ez, -ov, -enko, -ini, or whatever.

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>using easy to understand terms for the sake of comprehension
>puts quotation marks around them so it's obvious they're not the real terms
Yeah, go back to your lab, numbnuts, people with important jobs actually have to explain things in comprehensible ways to people who don't have time to learn the vernacular of every single field that affects their decisions.

That website isn't a "team of scientists" you mong.
It's two people who "review" each other's works and don't have any science background, but are self-proclaimed experts. They're the same self loathing Christians, like Dr. Kellogg and the puritans before him, who believe anything sexual that isn't reproduction is abhorrent.

>dopamine addled addict
Man that's wild, because I have raging erections with my girlfriend, I have a house, a car and a successful career, my finances are in good order and I have a nice physique.
Imagine if I wasn't "a dopamine addled addict", I'd probably be on my way to the Whitehouse right about now!
Get real you stupid fucks, NoFappers are losers because they're born losers, not because they jerk off too much.

Serious Question:

Does NoFap work if I have sex everyday? Or should I tell my gf to chill out for a bit?

>NoFappers are losers because they're born losers, not because they jerk off too much.
So much this.

guys, who cares if it's a placebo if it works?

sex and fapping are completely different in terms of the hormones released. Sex raises test, not lowers it like fapping.

>healthy relationship
>fap addiction
Holy fuck, you are retarded.

Placebo is cool, I guess? For the short time it works and for the limitations it has. Anyway, I wouldn't be against Nofap if it wasn't an unhealthy practice that can derive into so many other problems.

Why don't you chose to believe that brushing your teeth increases your test levels?

I'm sorry, but that's just not true, we're gonna need a source for that statement.

>Anyway, I wouldn't be against Nofap if it wasn't an unhealthy practice that can derive into so many other problems.

Jesus those are some crazy hoops you're jumping through there to justify your own weakness. Not fapping is now some terminal disease?

>Do nofap and noporn
>Have better sex with girlfriend
>No more brain fog
>More motivated at work
>Notice girls mirin in general
>More outgoing and talking/socializing is easier for me

Doesn't matter if it's placebo I'm loving it

It affects your chakra. Why do you think monks nofap?

Fucking idiot. There's nothing that can raise your test levels by a clinically significant level. NoFap is just a fucking placebo and the only reason you guys feel improvement is because you were all fucking addicts with low self-esteem and you desperately need something to believe in.

After all the deliberations and previous nofap experiences, I'm gonna go cold turkey today.

I need time to learn how to play the guitar or at least to play video games goddammit.

Do your own research my brotha, you don't have to believe me.

Not fapping can lead to physical ED.
Doctors recommend masturbation "about every day".

>Anyway, I wouldn't be against Nofap if it wasn't an unhealthy practice that can derive into so many other problems.

lmao

>Doctors recommend masturbation "about every day".
Holy fuck, I'm really gonna need a source for that.

>I thought NOFAP was bullshit
It is.
>once i stop i notice i have so much more energy and i'm way more aggressive in the gym.
>unnecessarily sexually frustrate yourself
>get aggressive
>This is surprising
>but not jacking off raises it.
No it doesn't
No it doesn't you dumb nigger
>Nofap is legit.
It's a pseudoscientific meme that demonizes something perfectly healthy and natural
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
>answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation

(((doctors)))

shoo shoo gains goblin

I don't know about what docs recommend but fapping everyday's fine for you

>gains goblin
>Not reading

What the fuck?

>What the fuck?
Is actual science that isn't memes too confusing for you

It is but that's not the point, you are accusing others of broscience yet you are posting broscience with a touch of science so yeah wtf?

NoFap is total bullshit, but NoPorn is legit. Break the chains of the xxx-rated jew.

Thank you, senpai

>being this addicted to porn

>stroking your tiny weewee for 10mins drains your energy so much that it effects your lifting
How much of a low-energy beta fag are you?

What about amateur porn ?

>tfw you want to nofap but your gf is a semen demon

Go for a month, then you can talk.

There are no Jewish doctors where I live. The ethnic composition of Newfoundland is almost entirely English, Irish and French.

>start falling for girl
>dont feel like fapping or porn anymore
>go through manic fits of euphoria and depression
>cant focus on career or lifting
>sleep 3 hrs a night
>cant even enjoy the benefits of nofap
>she might not even like me back

someone come and end me

It's called noFAP not noSEX you fucking retard.

Did for a month, ruined my libido. A year after and it still has not recoverd. Fuck you nofap faggots for killing my benis and relationship.

wet dreams are ok tho, it's essentially your body saying "the tanks full but we're still making semen so we gotta make room"

If you get this triggered by people making a positive change to their life, maybe it's time you stopped watching porn.

The reality is, nofap has something going for it that spending less time JO'ing is a good thing if substitute in something positive or productive instead. Less time spent watching porn is also likely just overall good for psyche.

That said, purposely trying your hardest not to jerk off for weeks on end is not going to do shit but stress you out more unless you're getting box on a semi regular basis. Like others have said, don't just go and jerk off every time you feel the urge to, but once a week or two is good stuff. Release a little stress, live your life, shoot your shot.

>It's an user thinks he can watch porn without masturbating episode

You're obviously trolling.

1 month in my dick and balls grew slightly in size, was super sensitive to touch, my libido was heightened, muscle tone increased, and I had more stamina.

When I finally came it was like a hose, was almost bright white, and strangely enough, the smell was really strong.

It works. Jizzing decreases the hormones in your body, makes you less manly.

The cool thing is that it awards your self-control with confidence. The longer you go the stronger you get.