Is he in hell?

Is he in hell?

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Nobody is in hell because hell is merely a metaphor and does not exist as a place

It's a state of existence. It does exist. And Columbus wouldn't be in it.

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Right, of course he wouldn't because he's fucking dead

>Fed babies to animals
>Not in hell

>Columbus fed babies to animals

>he killed millions

>“Such inhumanities and barbarisms were committed in my sight as no age can parallel. My eyes have seen these acts so foreign to human nature that now I tremble as I write.”

Your Conservative propaganda lied to you. Columbus was a piece of shit.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legend
Lay off this shit. This isn't your circle jerk.

That's a big number over there. Sauce for this guy slaughter millions by his own hand?

well, Hell is a post Judgement Day thing.
man that must be some crappy service.

he was just greedy

>While those who defend the existence of the Black Legend acknowledge that there is much documented evidence of atrocities by all European nations during the conquest of the Americas, and the Inquisition represented a period of cruel excess; they suggest foreign authors lay this legacy on the Spanish without balance and as a somehow intrinsic element of Spanish character. Its proponents claim that the Black Legend originated in the 16th century, a time of strong rivalry between European colonial powers, and served as anti-Spanish and anti-Catholic propaganda.

Dumb Coloumbusfag

Nigga, people who were with Columbus literally wrote about what he did. Stop being obtuse.

Show me a reliable source that Columbus "fed babies to animals." You are honestly retarded if you believe this.

>Political rivals never have any reason to paint their opponents in a poor light

>Countless evidence that Columbus committed atrocities. Columbus himself even wrote about how cruel he was
>Dumb faggots still say he dindu nuffin

How retarded do you have to be? rapidcityjournal.com/lifestyles/people/top-atrocities-committed-by-christopher-columbus/collection_76ebb2b8-f63d-11e3-a137-001a4bcf887a.html#5

>/rapidcityjournal.com/lifestyles/people/top-atrocities-committed-by-christopher-columbus

This is your idea of a reliable source? Stop humiliating yourself.

>While I was in the boat, I captured a very beautiful Carib woman, whom the said Lord Admiral gave to me. When I had taken her to my cabin she was naked—as was their custom. I was filled with a desire to take my pleasure with her and attempted to satisfy my desire. She was unwilling, and so treated me with her nails that I wished I had never begun. But—to cut a long story short—I then took a piece of rope and whipped her soundly, and she let forth such incredible screams that you would not have believed your ears. Eventually we came to such terms, I assure you, that you would have thought that she had been brought up in a school for whores.

>"H-He dindu nuffin! Muh elementary school teachings!"

where is the citation?

www2.fiu.edu/~cookn/cuneo1.pdf

>his discovery converted millions of heathens to Catholicism
he is in heaven and he lives in a house right next to jesus

Millions of people watch porn, including i'd imagine yourself, and don't care in the slightest that many of the girls they watch are coerced into doing it. Yet this is suppose to induce moral outrage? The cognitive dissonance of the average sjw is truly a wonder.

"A Spaniard who was out hunting deer or rabbits realized that his dogs were hungry and not finding anything they could hunt, took a little boy from his mother, cut his arms and legs into chunks with his knife and distributed them among his dogs."

abolishcolumbusday.com/bartolome-de-las-casas.html

A far cry from "he fed babies to animals" my boy.
>tfw she only gets kinky once you break out the whip
Whores will be whores.

>sjw

Oh you're a dumb inbred /pol/fag. In case they didn't teach you basic reading comprehension down in the South, he basically said he raped her.

>abolishcolumbusday.com
truly not a biased and partisan source at all. Well done, chap.

>forced sex is bad, except I fap to it on a regular basis
Yeah ok. You are SEETHING at this. As for myself, I really am not that horrified.

>"L-Look at the name of the site! It's obvious fake news! Nevermind the fact they directly cited excerpts from a book written by a guy who was there!"

>The absolute state of Columbusniggers

If you're going to say you lack the basic understanding of consent, I'm going to assume you're baiting because nobody can be this stupid.

It is generally agreed by actual historian (so not COLOMBUSIZEVIL.ORG) that Las Casas exaggerated and made things up. You may as well take everything Columbus said in his own journals as 100% accurate.

>Things that never happened

I guess Spain literally arresting the man for acts of Barbarism against his subjects is fake news too?

Columbus ruled like a tyrant. He was like this to both Amerindians and Spaniards. But people who accuse him of "genocide" and make up bullshit like Columbus "fed babies to animals"are retarded and indoctrinated by Judeo-Protestant propaganda that happens to lend itself to shitskins.

Stop arguing with these faggots. First hand accounts of Columbus are strewn out across the world and these faggots still want to plug their ears and pretend he was a saint. You can’t reason with these people.

Humanity is capable of the worst things imaginable but they can’t fathom Columbus being anything other than a shitty cartoon character from the first grade?

Funny how they’re all from /pol/ too.

>"I-It's all fake! Shitskins!"

Dumb /pol/ack. Low IQ wastes like you need to be hung.

>Comes to a place.
>95% of the natives die.
>The survivers live like absolute shit trough institutionalised oppression and destruction of their culture.

imagine la creatura behind these post.

Good argument, don't go out in the sun whiteboi, you can't handle it.

>"I wished to give a complete relation to your Highnesses, and also where a fort might be built…. However, I do not see it to be necessary, because these people are simple in weapons…. With fifty men I could subjugate them all and make them do everything that is required of them."
>"For I, with the force I have under me, which is not large, could march over all these islands without opposition. I have seen only three sailors land, without wishing to do harm, and a multitude of Indians fled before them. They have no arms, and are without warlike instincts; they all go naked, and are so timid that a thousand would not stand before three of our men. So that they are good to be ordered about, to work and sow, and do all that may be necessary, and to build towns, and they should be taught to go about clothed and to adopt our customs."

Stupid /pol/nigger

You haven't refuted anything or and your sources are embarrassingly poor.
"A spaniard" isn't Columbus. You moved the goalpost.
ad hoc
>but they can’t fathom Columbus being anything other than a shitty cartoon character from the first grade?
The ironic thing is that it's YOU who can't imagine him as anything besides a comic book super villain. I'm still waiting for that source Columbus fed babies to dogs.

Everyone is a nazi comic book villian to these pseudo-intellectual losers.

Sources have been posted all throughout the thread but you keep ignoring them. It's textbook /pol/. You people are good at playing dumb.

>You people are good at playing dumb.
Weird I get the exact same impression from Veeky Forums but they aren't playing.

Your sources are shit. Anyone can link COLOMBUSISEVIL.blogspot to reinforce their view. Look a this.
>Those who write about Bartolomé de las Casas (1485-1566) generally fall into his admirers and his detractors, benign descriptors for the divisions that the life of the “universal protector of the Indians” usually provokes. The four hundredth anniversary of his death was marked by a flurry of literature about him. At one end of the spectrum was Ramón Menéndez Pidal, the great Spanish philosopher historian, who labeled Las Casas a delusional paranoic in his biography of the Dominican priest, and at the other end Lewis Hanke, the equally prominent U.S. historian of Spain and its empire, led the admirers, seeing in Las Casas a champion of social justice and human rights.

>In the past twenty years, the flow of articles and books diminished somewhat from the outpouring in the mid-twentieth century--with one major exception, the fourteen volume Fray Bartolomé de las Casas: Obras completas (hereafter Obras completas) (1988-98)--but the friar’s life still arouses historical controversy over such issues as truth, justice, honor, greed, cupidity, and virtue, all set within a Christian milieu. Modern scholars have added their own lens to viewing Las Casas and his times, throwing agency, myths, imagination, race, and even gender into the equation as they try to figure out this remarkable man.
So this review, by an ACTUAL HISTORIAN named Lawrence A. Clayton, makes it clear enough that Las Casas is somewhat of a controversial figure, correct? So you using him as a source is fine, but i'm telling you he most likely exaggerated things. Now you implied Las Casas said Columbus fed babies to animals. Your quote didn't actually say that. What is said was a unnamed Spaniard did. Whether this happened or not, I don't know. But your original claim remains unfounded.

Are you saying whitedevildiditall.com isn't a reliable source?

Well he cut the tongue of a woman who talked bad about him.

>"T-This guy said its wrong! That means none of it happened despite the overwhelming evidence!"

No wonder you fucks love Nazis. Burning books would be a great hobby for you.

>Native Americans spend hundreds of years invading each other
I sleep
>Europeans invading the land of the natives and bringing in technology to end the America equivalent of the BronzeAge
FUCKING WHITE MALES REEEEEEEE

>everyone that say stuff i don't like is a nazi
Why is Veeky Forums such a closed-minded shithole?

>"T-This guy said its wrong! That means none of it happened despite the overwhelming evidence!"
That's not what I or he said at all. I don't think you know any evidence beyond huffpost and blogspots. What I do think is that you're too prideful to admit you have no reliable source claiming, specifically, that Columbus "fed babies to animals." You can tell me he raped a woman, or that he wanted to use Amerindians for labor, but you can't find a source for the one thing which was requested. Because it's a lie.

He didn’t call you a Nazi he said you love nazis and by how your writing you probably do

By how I am writing? Ah I see calling out liars makes someone a nazi. No wonder I keep getting called a nazi on Veeky Forums.

...

They are literally so brainwashed that the nazi spook haunts them.

ehhh

They guy who wrote that was one on colombus’s men who later became a priest

But user, whoredom is empowering.

De las Casas literally made shit up and pronative hispanists like Hugh Thomas don't take him as a valid source

It's pretty simple actually. America belongs to Amerindians the same as europe belongs to europeans. How is this hard to get?

De las Casas made shit up and not even the most rabid defenders of natives take him as a serious source. He was trying to decieve the king to give the church all the control over america,as it happened with the misiones, trying to depict the natives as dumb babies that needed the church's protection.

>America belongs to Amerindians
Where should the hundreds of millions of Mestizos go?

60% amerindians can stay.
The rest will become a burden, and will obviously be welcomed by the old-low birth rate populations of europe.

FACK DE NORTH!

So a 59% Metizo has to leave the land of his birth? Bit harsh, no? ALso

>so a
Irrelevant. Petty things like that matter can't defeat this principle. America belongs to Amerindians the same as europe belongs to europeans.

>America belongs to Amerindians
How can that be, when most Siberian-Americans died of disease so that Europeans could inherent their ancient land of Atlantis (America)? ?

>how can that be when
SeeDon't you agree?

He was a product of his time.

Oh yeah that Peruvian virgin that lives in Spain demanding everyone else to leave his shithole as he has alredy done. Lol

No human has rights to any land we all live on this earth together you bigot.

So you agree with european replacement?

No, I don't agree with driving "native" peoples away from their homes even tho everyone migrated since the becoming of time. I believe natives should not be bound to reserves and then replaced by ungrateful squats who claim to be them.

Also what is happening in europe is completely different from NA.

>Also what is happening in europe is completely different from NA.
Totally agree. What happened in the Americas was far worse.

Keep being intellectually dishonest I was trying to have a decent conversation but if this is just going to be a #fukwypipo thing then my time is wasted.

Go back to your ancestral land and leave Spain,maybe in Perú you won't remain a kissless virgin with the money that your mum makes sucking dick from old fat Spanish men lol.

Back to pol with your nazi friends, retard

Thanks for being so open minded, friend.

>What happened in the Americas was far worse.
Not true, at least the Amerindian fought bravely and died proud. The European man dies drinking soymilk and masturbating to tranny porn.

>Teach great lake of fire for 2000 years
>atheist: what a bunch of bs
>xtians: woops i meant it's just a metaphor
This is why christianity is dead

lefty/pol/ and /pol/ seem to be opposite sides of the same coin.

Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ died for our sins so we can all go to heaven
so we can sin as much as we want and get into heaven
you don't even have to accept him and you will still get in
that is how much he loved you

>Nobody is in hell because hell is merely a metaphor and does not exist as a place

No, hell is real.

youtube.com/watch?v=H7AvHOKFc9c

>he is in heaven and he lives in a house right next to jesus

I'm God, I despise Catholics, and protestants, and Muslims, and Jews and anyone else who human sacrifices to false gods (or real ones for that matter).

>completely different
Obviously. Muslims and black people are literally being welcomed in land. So that's not a problem.
500 years since your subhuman kind has infected America, and they still won't leave. America belongs to Amerindians the same as europe belongs to europeans. Deal with it.

>I love Perú wtf
>won't leave Spain
>Is a massive sperg that sees his mom and sister get railed by Spaniards all the time just like his ancestors
I would just kill myself if I were you

See

>every Yheologian and Christian who ever lived interpreted Hell the exact same way my pastor in bumfuck USA did during Sunday school
This is why we call fedoras retarded.

>America belongs to the Amerindians and Europe to Europeans!
>Flees to Spain to become a virgin NEET
Peak amerindian superiority

No but I am

He was Catholic.

So of course he is.

nobody here said natives killing natives wasn't wrong though

>Judeo-Protestant propaganda
oh that's a spicy one

Hasnt this exact same thread with pretty much the same replies and discussion been posted before?

Now that you agree with Amerindian superiority, isn't it obvious what will you post next?

More whitey hating threads and blantant racim towards whites by people of colour, communists and jews.

I won't even try to debunk 100million dead Native Americans. I will let you claim 1 billion deaths and Jews 60 million in Holocaust.

But you know what, i give absolutely 0 fucks about your people. I would much rather save the pigs from a slaughterhouse than you. Because pigs are far more noble than you sneaky pathetic rats.

Kek. This. All Catholics shall find their place in Hell.

Why does it have to be
A
Or C
Why not B. Columbus was a fucking tyrant end of story. He might be the devil in todays world but back then just another asshole

Heaven and Hell are both God's love. The question is, is he the kind of man who could accept it?

Because hatred for Columbus is racially based propaganda. I am white and i don't get butthurt over Turks praising some Sultan Mehmed for invading Southern Europe.

Columbus was above all a great explorer and conquerer.