TEST general

Hello men. Anyone planning doing a light test cycle in the future? like 125-250mg just to feel out what it's like? Mental and recovery effects is what I find most interesting.
Exactly what is it you gotta do? Separate the sticks of the 250mg for a six to eight week period and then use PCT substances like to weeks after to avoid gyno and loss of gains?

Please help me clarify somethings and as I wrote above I'm not planning doing it today because I've obviously have a lot of study to do...

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>copying my pic

what the fuck man

fuck you

No fuck YOU

nah

planning on doing 500mg a week cycle for like 12-14 weeks once I move out and then PCT.
Not cycling is dumb if u ever want to go on a vacation to another country, you won't be able to bring your steroids.

>Not cycling is dumb if u ever want to go on a vacation to another country, you won't be able to bring your steroids.

just double up before hand, or take Test-U

What effect would doubling up or taking test- u have, how long would you be able to go on vacation

I don't know nigger I'm not a fucking scientist. Taking higher dose should be fine for a week or whatever, you won't die if you don't pin every 3 days you ape.

And test-U is in pill form but hard to find

What is the diffrence of Test E, C, U etc?

yehhhh looks like cycling is better if u want to have a life aside from roiding

enjoy losing all your gains lol

Enanthate and cypionate are effectively the same, don't worry about it.

test-u is rare so it also doesn't matter

What are you on and are you going to be on it forever?

Just 300 test-e right now

Not sure where I'm going to go from here im a beginner

tren or bust breh

What is it like m8

Im looking to do a cycle to help gains and mostly my mental health
Problem is i can get my PCT working, thinking nolva alone but unsure if this is enough

Pretty good dude

I suggest not waiting. Don't listen to retarded faggots saying "U need to be at least 25 with 6 years of lifting experience and win at least 4 amateur bodybuilding competitions natty before you can begin". It's retarded.

Everyone benefits from it massively, just don't run too high of a dose as a beginner, not only does it increase the chance of issues but it's totally unneeded as a beginner. You'll make great gains even on 250mg test, no need to run 3grams total of like 6 different compounds.

Hey I just started a test E/tren A cycle a month ago. Within 3 weeks the Tren was too much for me, I was on about 50mg EOD which is considered a light dose. but I got turned off from reading up more on the sides and the potential for some serious liver damage and other health related problems so I decided to stop but stay on the Test E plus. Tren also gave me hotflashes and made me fucking angry which is another reason I jumped off it early.

My sex drive is through the fucking roof at 500mg/week of test hough but I've been experiencing other sides. I've been getting really fucking itchy skin, usually around my injection sites. I injected test in my delt and I got some sort of skin irritation/itch it was kind of warm to the touch and spread a bit down my arm, looked a lot like a rash. Faded after a few days and the itch stopped. I then decided to do quad injections instead and I haven't developed any redness or irritation (unless I start scratching) but my skin is fucking itchy. It's almost like a painful itch, sort of feels like that itch you get from sunburn. It comes and goes, at its worse before sleep. I was thinking it might be hair growth because it seems to be around my body where there is hair but I dont know.

At first I thought it was the Tren Ace but I've been off it now for a week. I'm now thinking it's the Test E I'm taking. I know it's from a legit source, reputable UG lab. I also experience a bit of tightness in my chest, sort of like a panic attack basically whenever I get a bit anxious now, which I never used to experience.

I've lowered the dose from 500mg down to 300 a week to see if it helps. It's fucked because I experienced less sides from Tren then I have from Test. My emotional state is a bit heightened on Test, basically feels like I actually feel my emotions more, more energetic etc and strength gains are great and I'm only on week 4 and there already has been some decent changes in my body, but these sides are horrible.

Sounds fucking amazing dude
What type of PCT have you got planned?
How long of a cycle are you going for?

how the fuck does any of that sound amazing you autist

With Test E I was thinking about cruising/blasting instead of dropping, if I don't though for PCT I'm going to be running Nova because last time I ran cycle I did Clomid and didn't like it.

For Cycle length I usually only go about 12-16 weeks, depends how I feel. I won't run Tren longer then 6 weeks because it's fucking dangerous, especially if you dose high and it will fuck with your head.

So now I have dropped the Tren after the first week (because fuck that, gains wise Test is all you need anyway, far less dangerous) but the itchyness and tightness around the chest shit is getting to me, so I've dropped it down to 300 to see what happens.

I was thinking it could be something in the oil that might be causing an allergic reaction but I've never had allergy issues before and I'm clean as fuck with the injections. I just don't know why I'm so fucking itchy.

Strength increase is just insane, and it's to the point where my girlfriend is tired of fucking me. We will fuck like 2 times and I will need to wait for her to leave and jerk off again - feels like being 15 again basically.

I was thinking about visiting a doctor to see what's up with the sides but not into getting grilled about steroids and having that shit put on my medical file.

>I suggest not waiting
>Don't listen to retarded faggots saying "U need to be at least 25"
>Everyone benefits from it massively
>just don't run too high of a dose

>im a beginner

great tips faggot. How long you've been on gear as of now? Did you ever stopped taking it? You know that you might get disgusting ance after you stop pinning? Most of the side effects happen after you get off gear so your tips are fucking worthless

>you will make gains on steroids
no fucking shit sherlock

If any of you is interested in pinning your butt i suggest asking people who have years of experiance. So you won't end up limping like a zombie for 4 weeks after pinning test prop into your quad.

Pic rel is me after my first cycle of 250mg test E eod

>Tren also gave me hotflashes
>made me fucking angry
>I've been getting really fucking itchy skin
>I got some sort of skin irritation/itch
>looked a lot like a rash
>my skin is fucking itchy
>almost like a painful itch
>It comes and goes, at its worse before sleep
> I also experience a bit of tightness in my chest, sort of like a panic attack
>these sides are horrible

>SOUNDS FUCKING AMAZING DUDE

what in the fuck

It's actually easy as fuck. I'm blasting and cruising for the past 4 years and I've had no issues with going to other countries.

Here is the fool proof way to keep test levels high without taking any risk and without having to pin a long ass ester before you leave.

>Buy testogel (it comes in daily dose sachets)
>squeeze sachets into empty travel size shampoo tube
>put in toiletry back in luggage along with other identical tubes that do have your shampoo etc
>arrive at destination
>rub it on yourself
>done

Used this method a few times now.

>I don't know nigger I'm not a fucking scientist.
Roiders, when will they learn?

>taking tren
>reading up more on sides and health problems

I did the same thing. I read about the sides before tren... But reading about them while on tren? Totally different story. I freaked the fuck out and didn't sleep for 3 nights in a row and ended up phoning an ambulance because I kept feeling my heart stop.

They said literally was nothing wrong with me though except slightly high BP.

The next day (again after no sleep) I went to the store and started poking holes in the packaged sausages and mushing them with my thumb until I got caught. Must've mushed about 20+ packs of sausages. I seriously have no idea why but the urge was uncontrollable. I tapered off after that series of incidents.

sounds risky and illegal

Nothing happens after you get off gear unless you refuse to pct

Do you really think they open up everyones luggage and test all of the mini shampoo and conditioner bottles? Literally 60%+ of all passengers have them.

It's not protocol to test any luggage items that aren't powder or organic. Nothing suspicious about it at all.

I get where ur coming from, but they do go through an xray thing and I can see the carrying of drugs at an airport having a harsh punishment

you realise you're gonna have to keep doing cycles because everything you gain over your natural limit will be lost if you stop

But the majority of all luggage going through the x-ray will have the same bottles with the exact same looking liquid.

By protocol they need to have reason to suspect before opening your luggage. Then if they do open your luggage they need to have reason to suspect to test anything for drugs.

Nobody going to test a shampoo bottle with shampoo constancy liquid in it for testosterone dude.

The people there get paid an hourly rate just like the rest of us. They ain't going to risk looking like a stupid time waster to their supervisor by holding up everyone with shampoo lol they would get fired

yes, but then again I can just go off cycle and have 0% risk

That's also true.

Yeah I feel you bro, the sausages thing is fucking weird though lol. Tren does fuck with your head, actually causes some irreversible changes in your brain chemistry as well but most AAS do.

Tren is used in cattle though and a lot of the effects of it aren't really fully understood. I read up a lot about it even prior to cycle so I understood a lot of the risks, just when you're on it the paranoia increases so you start looking at the risks more and start thinking "fuck this" the biggest problem though is basically the danger to reward balance. Yeah it's a powerful steroid, the most powerful one you can get pretty much, it's fucking godly, however, the damage it can do to your organs and brain is not worth it (in my opinion) One guy I know nearly completely fucked his liver just by the end of just week 4. His dosages were a bit high, but still, if you can fuck your liver within 4 weeks running this shit even on mildly high dosages you know it's serious shit.

Tren also runs a high risk of enlarging your heart. It wont fuck with your kidneys too much (seriously creatine is probably worse) but the damage liver/heart/mental wise makes it dangerous. Too many people dose high and run way too long. If you go easy on tren (say 50mg EOD) for maybe 4-6 weeks max you will probably be fine. It's really only when you start getting up past the 400mg for over say a month that you run a high risk of fucking yourself up.

Mental effects are basically just anger, anxiety, paranoia; makes you feel like everybody is fucking you over, out to get you etc horrible for relationships.

Like I said it's just the risk vs reward type thing. You don't see very many bodybuilders still alive into their 50's running Tren. Most of the smart ones stay the fuck away from it.

Test only is the safest you can run with minor sides and minor risk to health. If you are fine with TRT down the road then you can abuse it pretty hard without doing much harm.

Just remember that your have no idea what is in the vial you are buying. Secondly if you choose this depending on your age you are going to turn off your testicles and the feedback look that controls your nature hormone levels. Third you have no idea as to if they will turn back on post cycle. Forth you have to manage the side effects. Fifth if you choose this remember you might be doing injections weekly for the rest of your life.

Also the younger you are the more dangerous this is.

Please if anything else if you choose to do this see out medical help. Find a local Dr who works with people managing these risks and has experience. These Dr's will not prescribe for you, but they will help you minimize the long term damage.

>One guy I know nearly completely fucked his liver just by the end of just week 4.
no you are fucking retarded, why would you make shit up

Can I join in and fuck both of you?

He fucked his liver by taking orals not tren.

Anyway I think you're right the risk reward for tren should not be worth it to anyone. You can look amazing with just test and the right diet, maybe some bold or mast.

Your itchness and puffines is because the bacterial alcohol content of your UGL gear is too high, order a vial of injectable grapeseed oil to mix with it and lower the BA
BA content can vary wildly from UGL to UGL

All this tren hate
If you run test higher than tren you will have almost zero sides
I blasted tren e/test e for three months then dropped down to a cruise dosage of 100 test e and 100 tren PW for a year.
After that i blasted high deca/test until i was unexpectedly jailed for 4 months, now im waiting on my tren/test to arrive and literally cannot wait to start pinning again (lost 10lbs of gains)
In fact theres a doctor that prescribes tren/test trt:

professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/85449-dude-has-been-cruising-tren-3-years.html

'Unexpectedly jailed'
>commit crimes
>don't expect to suffer consequences
Classic tren

I went to mazatlan Mexico and back from Colorado USA and brought 500mg of test e along with my syringes. Nothing happened.

>Classic tren

Got picked up on a ten year old "state only" felony assault warrant, it went "nationwide extradition" because political season. The warrant was before i even knew what tren was.

>Anyone planning doing a light test cycle in the future? like 125-250mg just to feel out what it's like?
Unless you're EXTREMELY low test and in dire need of TRT 125-250 is going to do nothing for you.

>Exactly what is it you gotta do?
Read /r/steroids before making threads like these where you're obviously going to get retarded answers. You're already showing you have no idea what you're talking about.

>and then use PCT substances like to weeks after to avoid gyno and loss of gains?
Read up. You should only be taking estrogen inhibitors if you're A. Taking a lot of something that converts into estrogen or B. Responding in a way that suggests estrogen

>Please help me clarify somethings and as I wrote above I'm not planning doing it today because I've obviously have a lot of study to do...
Spend at least another few months reading up on studies and genuine information. You're clueless.

>Not cycling is dumb if u ever want to go on a vacation to another country, you won't be able to bring your steroids.
False. It's usually the most legal way to do it.

Also false and flat out nonsense.

Um fuck off???

>125mg of Test a week

Pretty sure if you are in your 20s that's like half the test you already produce, the side effects you are going to get is just low test.

Do 500mg, that's what most beginners run.

I don't even know how you would do 125mg.
First you would have to buy 100mg/ml (which guess what you're forever small if you get that shit because you'd have to push in 5ml every 5 days to get anywhere) Then you would have to do a ml and 1/4?

wtf man, just get test E 300mg/ml and pin every 4 days. 125mg is just a waste of a needle.

lmao is that what your PE teacher told you?

I've been on for a few yrs now. I go on vacation just fine. loading up the day of and being on that for 7 days is fine