So my doc just called to give me general blood test results, and my test is low. They broke the news like they were telling me I have cancer.
I'm in my early 30s and have had a lot of success lifting in the past, right on the edge of 2/3/4/5 plates, but lately have been struggling and getting injured constantly. Also my libido is garbage.
I am booking an appointment with a urologist this week. What should I expect? Does insurance typically cover treatment? What's it like to do TRT?
>What's it like to do TRT? it's like /cheat/, but legal you will achieve Scooby's level even with a shitty routine
Logan Rogers
I feel like you should go to an endocrinologist instead
Ian Scott
I'm just following my doctor's advice... they told me urologist
Austin Myers
31 here. I still look good but I feel its almost time to get on that TRT. I have friends who are doing it who don't even really lift and they look much better and feel much better...
But from here on out OP. You will never feel as good without a shot.
Brandon Parker
>roiding for this
Bentley Watson
he's natty user
Isaiah Fisher
You dont get a /cheat/ level dose tho?
Zachary Martin
Read everything you can on this topic to understand your options before going to the specialist. A good start is Jay Cambell's "The definitive Testosterone replacement therapy manual'. Its a free PDF you have to sign up to his eMail. With that knowledge use your google foo.
When you talk to your insurance company make sure you never say this is about sexual dysfunction your junk is fine and was fine.
Jayden Murphy
user on TRT here. I was diagnosed with low T when I was 31. The range was 350-1200 and I was at 135. My advice. Get TWO blood tests that show low T. Do not start TRT until you get the fucking second blood test (most insurance won't cover unless there are two tests) Convince doc that shots are the way to go for you (but doc, I don't want to get my gf a beard). Convince doc that you or your So can do shots at home. Go to your pharmacy and ask about their gap program. Generally if you have insurance, and a medication that they won't cover, the pharmacy will give it to you at a discounted price. Mine is 4ml at 200mg/ml (4 week supply) and is 180 without insurance and 32 with the gap program. I got my doc to prescribe 200mg a week which is the max my place will do, even with that my test only goes up to ~700. It is cheaper to get test from illegal sources. There are many. If you look for source talk on reddit you can find some. Welcome to a world of gains son.
William Green
Also get your Estrogen checked, regularly.
David Ramirez
why should you not tell them anything about sex function?
James Robinson
>I have friends who are doing it who don't even really lift and they look much better
Ultimate body dysmorphia. There is no way someone who doesn't even really lift would look better than that.
Carter Thomas
few times a year do dry orals on top of your cruise and youre set
Jacob Morales
I'm 42 and been busting my ass for two years at the gym. I've gotten pretty good results... but I'm tempted to talk to my doc about getting on some test. How hard is it? At my age I'm sure it's taken a dip. Do I have to claim that I'm miserable and sickly?
OP here, thanks for all the info guys. I'd like to avoid TRT if I can, but the injuries and halts in progress lately have been destroying me.
I'm also recently single again and feel like I need some more test to help motivate me to get out there.
Nathaniel Fisher
I went in because I was having sleep issues from stress and just needed something to help with that downward spiral. She ordered standard blood work and was like "we may as well do a test check while we're at it".
In retrospect it makes lots of sense my test was low, I check the box on all the symptoms.
Jace Diaz
Many policies do no cover sexual function.
Tyler Scott
Why would you want to add the side effects of medication when you fine? Vanity?
Christian Parker
True
Jack Gray
I said don't reallllly lift. Very casual. And are getting nice results
Aiden Torres
>Why would you want to add the side effects of medication when you fine? Vanity? Mmmmm yes, mostly. And I would love to see a little more progress for my efforts. It's frustrating hitting the wall.
Joshua Fisher
how has your mood changed? anxiety, blood temperature, ambition, aggressiveness? Have you gotten laid more? anything noteworthy outside of gains that has changed since TRT?
Juan Campbell
How soon after your last workout was the blood taken? I've heard that your testosterone can drop, temporarily, for up to a few days after a hard workout.
Luke Brown
>there are people that roid just to get on levels like 700ng/dl while you roid and get up to 2400ng/dl
I feel sorry for you dyel faggots
Landon Torres
Should I get TRT? >20yo >low libido >low motivation >trouble getting sleep >constantly tired >hitting the wall at gym (I train 5 times a week and eat well) >depressed It has been like this for almost 2 years now. Even my younger brother has passed me in all lifts with same training and food. I have heard that doctors in my country dont give TRT too easily but I maybe could get test elsewhere.
Lincoln Perez
>29 >434 >Men's clinic wouldn't do anything because insurance won't cover it. >Go to local clinic >Doesn't even ask for results, gives me 400 Test C >tells me to come back in 2 weeks
Sounds good.
Easton Butler
Do you know if it will affect your fertility?? I want to have children someday.
Luis Taylor
It does affect fertility:
When artificial testosterone is introduced into the body, the pituitary gland in the brain senses its presence and shuts off the supply of hormones that stimulate the testicles to make their own testosterone and sperm. The brain cannot differentiate natural testosterone from synthetic, so it shuts down its own sperm-making mechanisms.
Aiden Carter
I'm in the same boat. I'm 23 and have 120ish test. Most docs try everything else before putting you on test this young, but if that's the actual issue, there's nothing else you can do. Just get your blood taken, anyway. You never know.
William Barnes
OP here... this has me heavily leaning against it then. I also only slept a few hours each night leading up to the test. Like I said above, it's the reason I saw the doctor in the first place... stress/sleep issues. I wasn't going in for test.
Maybe I need a second test while I'm well rested. I was just repping out bench at 235 and feeling strong an hour ago at the gym, so I'm having trouble with the diagnosis now.
Daniel Perez
Penev et al. for example. Where the researchers gathered up a group of healthy men to test their testosterone levels first thing in the morning when they had just woken up. They also gave these men a wrist band that showed how long each guy had slept…
…The results showed that the guys who had slept for 4 hours, had testosterone levels howering around 200-300 ng/dl.
Compare that to the guys who slept for 8 hours, they had their levels at around 500-700 ng/dl.
The results showed that the more you sleep, the more testosterone your body produces. It’s just that simple.
It gets even more drastic if you go sleepless for a period of time even after a full nights sleep.
Asher Martin
Yes, but it can be mitigated by the Dr. Although its a risk.
Chase Parker
This is a huge relief. Thanks for the info.
Andrew King
Oh also sleep has "less" of an effect as you get older or at least there is conflicting reports. No one to my knowledge has tracked the affect of sleeping meds on testosterone.
Landon Cook
If at all possible don't start testosterone unless you plan to do it forever. Its not a decision to be taken lightly.
Adam Evans
>how has your mood changed? I am happy. I did not realize how depressed I was. All my friends and family said that they noticed a significant positive change in my mood.
>anxiety Less anxiety. I am agoraphobic, but with TRT I don't have panic attacks nearly as much. Friends and family have also noticed a difference in this.
>blood temperature Umm.. normal? My cholesterol went up to 275, but with eating right I got it down to 200.
>ambition No change. I was abmbitious before and after.
>aggressiveness Much higher. I loose my shit easier but I can keep my anger in check because I'm an adult who can walk away.
Have you otten laid more? >Married. I want sex more now. So yes.
>anything noteworthy outside of gains that has changed since TRT? Body acne, deep cystic body acne. Like one are two of em a week. I worked out a lot before TRT, but with it I am progressing much faster. It is a gateway drug for sure. It's like, why do 200mg a week when I can do 400, or 600. What happens if I add Deca? Primo? It just gets better and bigger gains. People are more accepting when I tell them I take steroids when I explain my story of low T. Everyone, even parents are like "yeah man, just do then and get huge, why the fuck not?". TRT is the best thing that has ever happened to me, it completely changed my life for the better. My only regret is that I didn't get checked out sooner.
Good luck user.
Ethan Morris
I literally just got off the phone with my doctor 10 minutes ago, talking about my blood test and how I have low testosterone. I was at 338. It fucking floored me because sexually, i feel ive been fine, but i have noticed my memory and physical fitness have gotten worse. this sucks