Should i masturbate before or after my daily workout? Will it affect muh gains?

Should i masturbate before or after my daily workout? Will it affect muh gains?

Also does nofap make any difference to gains?

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chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html
chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788
raypeatforum.com/community/threads/masturbation-downregulates-certain-androgenic-receptors-in-the-brain-and-upregulates-certain-estro.6998/
zju.edu.cn/jzus/2003/0302/030219.pdf
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241
reuniting.info/download/pdf/01_Endocrine_Response.pdf
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19435656
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

after. depending on how much before workout you do it you'll be tired

this wikihow is hilarious

>Ask your partner, “Is now a good time to watch pornography?”

Before. Masturbating to climax reduces peak testosterone for 2-3 hours afterwards, if you lift without masturbating before hand you have that test boost and are basically cheating.

I masturbate no more than once a week, a normally on sunday nights.

I enjoy putting all the sexual energy into working and working out during the week, and when it is at it's maximum, during the weekend, to make my pee pee get somewhere new

Considering getting a fleshlight. I have death grip syndrome pretty bad, should I go for it lads?

During your workout.

is wikihow for real

>Should i masturbate before or after my daily workout?
Either's fine as long as it's not directly before. If you get up then right then go work out save it for later
>Will it affect muh gains?
No
>Also does nofap make any difference to gains?
No
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
>answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation

Absolutely

1.Never ideally. It's not helping you with your gains and when done in excess it actually hurts them. Hurts every aspect of your life actually. Trust me.

2.Yes it does. Lot more focus drive and energy. Your test levels increase and stay elevated as long as you go without fapping. Your body becomes far more sensitive to your own naturally produced test and lowers estrogen production and the bodies ability to use estrogen.

If you go without that vice for one single year and aren't going on a heavy cut or overtraining then you'll see ridiculous fucking gains.

Fuck off nofap faggot

I used to fap right before and after every work out.

are flashlights noticeably better than hand-fapping?

i mean fleshlights

If you have to see in the dark, yes

im also interested in this answer

Fuck off fapping shill.

This is almost fully accurate, but it does affect your gains in the sense that if you abstain for 7 days there's a sharp spike in testosterone, 147% normal levels i believe. The prime time is to spank it then, as you can ride the high back down to normal levels. If you abstain for 8 days, the levels go down to normal anyway.

To add to this, nofap is retarted in the sense past 7 days it has NO benefit besides placebo.

>7 days of nofap

>Usual time to hit the gym is just as the schools end
>Its filled with a bunch of attractive under-18s
>most machines face the back of the treadmills
I can't risk getting a mega boner when the gym is full of 16 year old grills and I'm 25.

Do it for the gainz, my friend. Or tape it to your thigh.

They are much better but a hassle to use. Best is if you prop it between two pillows and hipthrust like youre actually fucking

Actually there is a second study that says that your testosterone will raise and stay raised as long as you abstain
And a further study that states that your body will begin to become more attuned to your own testosterone resulting in gains

Link? I'd love to read it.

I don't mean to brag but my dick is too big to not be noticed through my shorts if it's erect, looks like nofap ain't an option.

I hate this poster so fucking much

I feel ya my dude, mind over matter. Try suppressing a random erection from time to time, control your lust.

post the study

I really don't know why but when I lack motivation I masturbate before going to the gym and it helps me get motivated, anyone have an explanation for that?

Nofap doesn't make a noticeable difference other than a placebo effect.

That said, first thing in the morning, I chug my preworkout, go to the gym, and by the time I get home I have my full on pre-workout stimulant boner. Like these things are seriously massive and sensitive it's pretty much the best.

I get home, and just fucking jack that big dong and it feels amazing

Just make sure you wash your hands before you do it because the gym is a dirty dirty place.

Anyone else get pre-workout boners?

I get mid-workout boners from the exertion sometimes, but i tend to suppress it.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788

raypeatforum.com/community/threads/masturbation-downregulates-certain-androgenic-receptors-in-the-brain-and-upregulates-certain-estro.6998/

This guy is onto some good shit, As for the 7+ day abstinence there are counter-studies that say it decreases after 7 days. Now, if you're like me and don't get sexual urges very often, go crazy with nofap. If you have to constantly repel the urges then the once weekly might be ideal. This would probably be the most beneficial until the community can come to a consensus.

>tfw lost on the 6th day

However, to counter 's first study, i found the PDF which states that it does infact decrease on the 8th day.


zju.edu.cn/jzus/2003/0302/030219.pdf

I love my workout boners; They always give me a pick me up during heavy sets.

It's nice having a home gym because I can enjoy waving my boner around freely.

Derp, i meant the second human study in the second link, a link for the lazy people:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241

As we can see, this means that the 7+ day abstinence may not be entirely true. Ima repost this pic from /pol/ which i found wisdom in, call me a fag if you must but it has truth to it.

Dude i love how the wind tickles my testicles

>this are the people giving you advice

I don't think so, I think it's "trolls trolling trolls" all over again.

come on nigga

use this

Neither. Fap max once a week and never use porn again. Maximum test gains.

This guy knows his shit.

*teleports behind u*

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Actually every single study outright states that your testosterone remains elevated for as long as you don't masturbate.
It also states that your body remains highly sensitive to your own test and lowers your ability to produce and use estrogen.

Care to show me some legit studies that state otherwise or that it has no effect what so ever.
And please don't post the thing with the men who have ED. That has been debunked a billion times over.

nigga did you even read the PDF? This is from the study YOU linked.

"After the peak on the 7th day, the level declined significantly on the eighth day"

As for the others, someone else can deal with those. I've done my fair share on this Siberian ice-fishing forum.

That's a bad shoop who the fuck makes these.

Did you fucking read MY studies you fucking retard?
The fact that it dropped from that peak does not mean that it dropped to what it was before.
The first fucking study I posted outright states that testosterone remains elvated by a SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT as long as you don't jack off.
Are you fucking retarded?

Absolutely not.

Effects of not ejaculating for a while is mostly psychological but it doesn't mean they're worthless.

I experienced higher energy and focus in the gym while training having not ejaculated for a few days. I haven't done the NoFap thing because I don't think it's useful.

I think excessive masturbation can possibly hurt gains indirectly because of lower motivation and energy but it's more of a psychological issue and not endocrinological.

Oh shit, I went back and reread what you wrote and I realized that you didn't even follow the link.


My link states that college aged men who abstained from jacking off had significantly elevated test as long as they abstained.

>you fucking retard
>fucking study
>Are you fucking retarded
Not him, but you're pretty rude, please try acting nicer thank.

"...where subjects didn't ejaculate for 3 weeks, is often cited as evidence that abstinence leads to increased testosterone. It doesn't. This sentence from the abstract is poorly worded and misleading: "although plasma testosterone was unaltered by orgasm, higher testosterone concentrations were observed following the period of abstinence". In the full study, testosterone levels are the same in both groups. Examine the testosterone graph C on page 379. Notice testosterone levels at the start of the film (10-minute mark) were identical in both groups. End of story. The confusing language in the abstract refers to testosterone differences while masturbating. While watching the erotic film and masturbating, T-levels dropped for the pre-abstinence masturbation session. After 21 days of abstinence, T-levels stayed closer to the 10 minute baseline during masturbation. The statement - "higher testosterone concentrations were observed following the period of abstinence" - means that testosterone levels did not fall as much during the stimulus: masturbation & porn viewing. The authors suggest anticipation of watching a porno (perhaps augmented by the anticipation of finally masturbating) caused testosterone to remain elevated throughout the viewing."


Here's a link to the full study: reuniting.info/download/pdf/01_Endocrine_Response.pdf

also why you gotta be r00d? Someone finally challenging this copypasta? Nothing wrong with a bit of constructive debate.

>Someone finally challenging this copypasta?
Good job, you convinced all these people to fuck their hands and your days are over now lmao

I do it before so I'm not horny as fuck when i see my gym crush

lmao, I'm on the side of them going out and actually getting a gf to fuck, since that is beneficial to mental, emotional and test gains. Unless shes a gainz goblin, at which point you throw her the fuck out.

Nothing better than busting balls deep in some 16 year old fitness bunny's tight pink pussy. You should have gone for it.

I'm sorry actual science instead of pseudoscientific demonization of something normal and healthy hurts your feelings

If you actually fuck it, yes. If you're just using it to jerk off, then no.

>en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent
Depending on where you live they might be legal

that >nani always gets me

normal fapping is impossible for me now

They're pretty good

I'm kinda interested in the butthole fleshlights, at least until I'm big enough to confidently talk to women.

a-are they any good Veeky Forums?

My friend tried no fap once. He was noticeably more sexualy frustrated. Like this kid was mad and horny all the time. He said it was bullshit, but his game is shit so he couldn't get pussy.

He was trying the no fap meme.

So yeah, it's outright stating that abstinance does in fact increase your testosterone and your sensitivity to your own cues to release test.

reuniting.info/download/pdf/01_Endocrine_Response.pdf

They abstinence group absofucking LOUTLEY starts with higher base test. Look at the fucking graphs!

It states that the reason for the increased test is the anticipation of sex or orgasm, not because they abstained. Sure, it could be used to garner the excitement of orgasm, but if someone is very easily excited by the sight of a pussy they can have the exact same effect of someone who abstained for 3 weeks. The test gains are small as fuck, not to mention. You'd be way better off getting the 145.7% test increase weekly then abstaining and getting a small boost consistently.

>masturbating before working out
it's like you WANT to ruin your workout
actually
>masturbating anytime other than before bedtime
it's like you want to ruin your day

No faggot.
This is concrete proof.
They, unlike the group who didn't fucking abstain, started with an already high base of test and their test level AS YOU CAN SEE is elevated HIGHER then the group who didn't abstain.

You are fucking wrong and are DESPERATELY clinging to one fucking line. THE MIGHT BE MORE TURNED ON THEN THE OTHER GUYS SO THAT OBVIOUSLY MEANS THAT THEIR TEST IS NORMAL AND THEY JUST WANT TO FUCK!

Yes friend. They're test is high so when they see something sexual their test peaks even higher then the non abstiance group and climbs higher then the nonabstinance group before dropping but not as fast as the nonabstinance group.

You're interpreting it in a way that makes no fucking sense.
Fucks sake you don't even fully understand that men's test fluctuates throughout the day and that mens test peaking or raising HIGHER when seeing certain stimuli is exactly what men want.

Calm down for a sec, it's bad form to bust ya lid in a debate.

The point im trying to convey is that it is substantially better to get the 145.7% Spike of test after a week than it is to abstain and get a SMALL boost of test consistently. That small boost is minimal and best and if you are looking to make gains using the increased test then the spike would be wayy better. Just noporn and fap in the shower weekly.

Not to forget that the reason why i went to all this effort was to get the truth behind, since you nofap people tend to perpetuate the idea that it'll make you a test god, when in reality it gives a small boost.

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No that's fucking shit.
The constantly raised test from abstaining ON TOP of how the body begins to change once masturbation is off the table is the real deal.

Simply jacking off once a week for a single short term boost that won't even last 24 hours on top of losing the benefits from longterm masturbation is pointless.

Idiot.
And an invader zim pic? The fuck?

Unless you abstain for years, the amount of test is minimal a best (Assuming the test is compounding, which we have no proof of yet) It would be way better for someone who is in the prime of their life, building muscle to obtain that test NOW, as opposed to several years down the track.

if i fap on gym day, i edge for a bit before, hit the gym and come back really horny, then jack it off.

feels like masturbating but not cumming before gives me a test boost, i just feel so much hornier and aggresive, whereas coming leaves you relaxed.

If the test isn't compounding, which is a very likely circumstance, The advantages of abstaining becomes way less beneficial compared to a boost of testosterone to help pack on muscle mass.

I always fap before...like a few hours before

And only once a week

Wouldn't the ideal time to fap be right before bed, because it'll help with muscle recovery?

It feels really good.

2 problems, though. Prep and cleaning. You need to warm it up because when it's hot and wet it feels fucking great. Also you need lube, it's too sticky to not use it.

Cleaning sucks. Semen sticks to everything, especially warm, moist silicon. You need to turn it inside out and wipe it dry to really clean it, otherwise it acquires a rancid smell.

The amount of test is compounding because that's kind of how it fucking works.

Lastly, the boost is nothing compared to simply not jacking off.

Also, that kind of logic is what leads people into believing that taking ball destroying manhood ending amounts of gear and "cruising" is a good idea.

>warm it up
>wet it
won't fucking it with lots of lube in a hot shower do the job?

>The amount of test is compounding because that's kind of how it fucking works.
Except that's not how it works at all because when you don't use your duck for a while it stops on you and is exactly why idoits who fall for the no fap meme retardedly complain about flatlining in every no fap thread. Your testosterone production doesn't compound or go somewhere else, it stops You either use or you loose it

This man is correct.

Always after for me. I build up huge testosterone after.

life hacks

There was a guy I went to college with that got busted for sleeping with 14-17 year olds. He went on misc and Veeky Forums.
Did they let you out early for good behavior?

>Except that's not how it works at all because when you don't use your duck for a while it stops on you and is exactly why idoits who fall for the no fap meme retardedly complain about flatlining in every no fap thread. Your testosterone production doesn't compound or go somewhere else, it stops You either use or you loose it

That is without the dumbest fucking thing I've ever fucking read ever.
There is no fucking thing in your entire body or in human genetics that says "if you don't jack off a lot your dick will cease to function" you scare mongering porn shilling fap addicted retard.

You don't lost test when you masterbate. It also doesn't compound. You fell for the meme. You fell for it hard.

Please provide evidence to disprove.
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
>answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation

Your test does drop, we have concrete proof.
The compund thing, I'm saying the body slowly gets used to the higher levels of test and higher peaks of test that happens throughout the day.

You should REALLY link to the actual prostate study. And while you're at it, you should fucking read it.

It sort of hints at masturbation ONCE A MONTH MIGHT help with prostate health but they honestly don't fucking know. THEY GUESS.
Actual sex does help and even boosts test. Jacking off? The opposite.

But we do know that excessive masturbation HARMS the prostate you fucking retard. It causes inflamation!

Loss of nutrients? Has almost fucking nothing to do with what we are discussing. You just tossed that shit in there for some reason.

>Your test does drop, we have concrete proof.
Link please.

>But we do know that excessive masturbation HARMS the prostate you fucking retard. It causes inflamation!
Link please

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To tell you the truth, I've not been able to find anyone who talks about lowered test.

But there are dozens of articles saying that not jacking off increases test for as long as you abstain, that fucking boosts test, and that masturbation lowers test, your ability to utilize test and increases your estrogen sensitivity.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19435656

>Your test does drop, we have concrete proof.
It doesn't and you don't
>You should REALLY link to the actual prostate study.
I did. I linke THE definitive prostate study out now with a ten year follow up.
>And while you're at it, you should fucking read it.
I also did. You're the one who needs to read it if you're really going to continue down this line of argumentation
>It sort of hints at masturbation ONCE A MONTH MIGHT help with prostate health but they honestly don't fucking know.
Except they do
>THEY GUESS.
They demonsratably didn't.
>Actual sex does help and even boosts test. Jacking off? The opposite.
>Not reading
>But we do know that excessive masturbation HARMS the prostate you fucking retard. It causes inflamation!
>Not reading again
>Loss of nutrients? Has almost fucking nothing to do with what we are discussing. You just tossed that shit in there for some reason.
That's always in the greentext I post for when the claim comes up that fapping saps you of vital nutrients when it does no such thing. Also you seem to think that user I are the same person. We're not. I'm the one who posted it first

For me nofap does the complete opposite of increasing my concentration. Well it actually does, aexcept I AM CONCENTRATED ON THINKING ABOUT FAPPING. Can't get any school work done before I fap.