/plg/

Anyone have experience with GZCL training method? Thoughts?

Im tired.

Should i deadlift today? Its so heavy.

My back hurts.

I shouldnt deadlift today right?

How can I pinpoint what the issue is then?

Always was a rare pepe

Look at the picture in the post :)

>:)
fucking bi-polar this guy, i swear

Yeah it's pain in the front then
What do EXACTLY?

...

Right at the patella? Or above the knee?
Above the knee is quad tendinitis.
If it's right in the patella, it's probably patellofemoral pain syndrome. (pic)

How come the vast majority of powerlifting oriented programs, including sheiko, almost entirely neglect rows and pullups? Shouldn't you balance horizontal and vertical pushing and pulling?

>Someone who has experience has no advantage than someone who has no experience

t. trappy himself.

the fucking madman

Weight class meme'ing

>hurr durr as 6'4 lifter you have to be sub 120 class

The post you linked is quad tendinitis but I have patellofemoral pain syndrome and it doesn't say what to do for that help :(

Just learn to drive a car with someone who never drove before, trust me you dumb fuck

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Sorry, PPS is a more complicated issue.
Let me finish lunch and I'll get back to ya.

Fuck my life

load fast, pupper

Don't worry, it's a common issue and not that hard to recover from (literally just resting can do it, though it's obviously not the fastest approach).

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_disorder

look mom. i can google shit too

tee hee i play with my pee pee

>patellofemoral pain syndrome
I have had this for years to varying degrees of severity. Whenever there's a volume phase, time to peak, or just general overuse from physical activity, I rub diclofenac gel on it and pretend it's ok - then, it doesn't ache so, but I can still feel the ligaments' presence like a stiff rubber band.

I mean they might not drove a car or have driving licence, but they read a lot of car magazines and seen people drive before, stop bully tranny

OK that's good
I'll up my fish oil intake from 2 tablets to 8 a day and start foam rolling until you get back to me

Let's pretend we don't exist

Let's pretend we're in Antarctica

Maybe I'll never die I'll just keep growing younger and you'll grow younger too!

Hello guys?

Please tell me about how responsible it would be to have a rest day, how good rest days are, how you can only grow when you rest, etc.

CMON

>tfw trappy orbiter
>tfw getting annoyed at her obnoxiousness
w-was this part of her master plan?

Read the argument, pick the statements which I organized and numbered, and substantiate your fucking claims with logic.

This is so fun.

heres a new slam jam for you guys

youtube.com/watch?v=uints81YYMc

I recommend playing while reading my posts
YU WA SHA
>Yes, that's a fallacy. It's explaining the fallacy
nigga do you understand how I just displayed how you are making that fallacy

are you this dense

just admit youre drunk and we'll leave you alone

>Can you give it any scientific or logical backing?
I gave it logical backing, I will link to the post this are numbered and organized, their form is valid and sound

Its like I have you on a full front mount position with my knees pinning your arms down and I am on the brink of fracturing your skull and you exclaim "youre not even fighting"

Every day
ALL DAY

YOU CANT FUCKING STOP ME

Go and lift you sorry sack of shit

reddit is a better place to ask about that, seems consistently good from what I've heard.

Why does your back hurt?

Trappy
>hurr durr your post must be powerlifting related!!!!!!!!

>let me just attach soft core anime porn to all my posts

Seconding this.

She's been getting more and more obnoxious lately in everything.

ask trappy. i'm sure he's fucking googled that before

load fast pupper

some muscle groups recover in a 1-3 day range

your body can adapt and learn to recover faster* within limitations

motor learning happens when you sleep, and igf-1 is at its highest when you sleep, on top of your how CNS recovers when you sleep.

skip sleep for 3 days and try and pick up 70% daedlift and tell me how it feels

I can go into more detail but Im busy unloading on a faggot

>Read the argument, pick the statements which I organized and numbered, and substantiate your fucking claims with logic

Ok, but I'm still waiting for you to substantiate your claims.

I've always told you that you are idealising who I am.

>porn

It's by definition not porn.

Doing gods work

Gentle reminder to just ignore the baitposts.

In for best coach

What was the worst day of your guys life's

Mine was when DRUMPF was elected president

Failed all my sets I cried so much

If anybody else has tips about dealing with patellofemoral pain syndrome feel free to help
Sabre u here?

programmes, magazine, books, etc. that are regarded as emphasizing the sensuous or sensational aspects of a non-sexual subject and stimulating a compulsive interest in their audience:

Its porn

Kys

>Ok, but I'm still waiting for you to substantiate your claims.

You are a massive hypocrite. Pls stop.

Hello, i think you missed the fact that i was tired my friend

That is a good question. I guess i tried too hard last deadlift session.
And then earlier today i had to move some heavy shit around and then it didn't feel too good.
It feels fine now though.

But deadlifting might be too taxing now for my poor lower back, especially if i try hard!

Good, good, gooood. I should sleep right?

Me: If you have never squatted before and use the objectively best information to teach a squat, someone who has squatted more than you will still have an advantage.

You: That's a fallacy.
Stopped reading there.

>I never claimed that, though.
>I never even claimed that you are right or wrong.

>yfw trappy's deadlift PR involvs lifting a goalpost
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts

can you explain the biomechanics of leg function when back peddaling?
I would think your quads would get tired being in a stretch position on your knees all day sucking dick, and now youre pushing backwards. Look out for patellar tendonitis.

I mean, I'm ignoring pretty much every bait.

Or are you talking about the people who want to argue about lateral raises or about training experience?

>sensuous or sensational aspects

So girls in regular clothing doing nothing in particular is now = porn because it gives you a boner?

lol

Either define what "sensuous or sensational aspects" mean, or accept that it's a non-definition.

>Me: If you have never squatted before and use the objectively best information to teach a squat, someone who has squatted more than you will still have an advantage.

>You: That's a fallacy

That's not the only thing you claimed. (even though you wish it was)

List every claim you want substantiated and provide a counter for how you contest it.

"I never said you are wrong"
"Im still waiting to substantiate your claims"

Gentle reminder to not tell trappy what to do

>If you have never squatted before and use the objectively best information to teach a squat, someone who has squatted more than you will still have an advantage.

How can you have advantage over something which is "objectively the best"?

That shit looks over complicated just to "add more reps" to a weight "you already do". Just another internet wonderprogram.

trappy is literally a bait himself

>know's he's fucked in the head
>takes pleasure in winning internet arguments
>just googles everything
>absolutely insistent in keeping up his 'online persona'

he's probably a fat fucking neckbeard irl

>List every claim you want substantiated

These
>1. Someone who does X once will have am advantage of experience over someone who has never done it
>2. someone who does X very well and has experience will do something better than someone who has only done X once
>3. + someone who has more experience will have an advantage over someone who has no experience

.

>and provide a counter for how you contest it.

Don't worry, I will. Once you substantiate your arguments.

>I mean, I'm ignoring pretty much every bait.
>Or are you talking about the people who want to argue about lateral raises or about training experience?

You responded to thisYou're doin pretty good tho, just keep it up.

You are actually insane. That was the Oxford dictionary definition. The worlds most regarded English dictionary.

Provocative pictures of bulges, scenes with a sexual nature, erotic clothing, erotic positions and erotic scantily dressed bodies is soft porn.

I can't define that. I didn't write that definition, it's from the best English dictionary there is.

get a load of this fag

this is literally you. you're literally jason blaha

yes, and eat.

muscles like calves and arms, usually smaller muscles that are not in the core, recover pretty quickly.

your lats recover quickly sometimes too, depending on the stress, so your erectors.

think of it like this
>how often do you use your chest?
>compared to calves and muscles that keep your posture up?
>muscles like calves and postural muscles have higher slow twitch ratios of muscle fibers because they cant just fatigue and give up
>ergo they recover better, but might be worse at force production comparatively

as always, ask for more details if you want them

You're such a cuck. Genuinely hope you kill yourself.

Everybody ignores you because nobody likes you lmao

Pull-ups are a bodyweight exercise, which doesn't work well for heavy powerlifters. Rows fall into Lat accessories, which some guys will pass if they're deadlifting and benching enough.

This Poutine you're a fucking freak desu lad. Thought you were one of the boys

Why is trappy so selfish? Why is it all had to revole around him?

Back up his argument then or point out how mine is bad, assuming youre calling me bait.

i've just lost all respect for poo-teeny

I think you should go train, especially if your program calls for it. Pop a caffeine pill and get to it.

If you like trappy you should genuinely kill yourself

I like Pooptine, he seems like a nice lad who would I would like to get a beer with.

Cuck

>tfw no programm

According to /plg/ one should only deadlift once a week.
But its only been 6 days.

But i don't squat.
So maybe i can deadlift more often than once a week.

But maybe not.

my deadlift form is fine with low weight (2pl8)

getting anywhere near my 5rm (3pl8) makes my hips rise too fast, and i basically good morning the bar with varying degrees of cat back

do i just stick to low weight until i have it right?
now matter how carefully i setup, it always happens

trappy is literally blaha, they're both mentally unhinged

blaha:
>constantly lies about who he was
>googled everything and became his own internet guru

trappy:
>think's he's a girl
>googled everything and became his own internet guru

I pointed out the conflict in your argument here: I understand that experience can be a good thing to look for when seeking advice, but just because you squat (as used in your example), doesn't mean you have all the knowledge at hand, and just because you don't squat doesn't mean you don't have a very technical and useful understanding of he movement.

Don't base your counter argument on "how can you know, you've never done it" because it holds very little merit. I'm not even entirely certain what you two are even debating, as it's transformed into some pretty childish bickering.

Fuck I just turned gay

It's your setup, get gud

Aren't you the guy who always defends lol fed lifters who give shit advice with the retort that 'hurr they total twice as much as you I think they might know something'
And now you're arguing the opposite
Because you're a fucking retard cuckold

So my rule of thumb is that if your hips shoot up, you're setting your hips up too low to begin with and that will pull you out of position. Stay with the current weight, and next time get a buddy to film you, or prop your camera up on a box, while lifting so we can take a look and diagnose the problem better.

>joegramming

If you're gonna Joegram then, I think you should do whatever feels best. An idea may be to do some low weight variations, or pulls from blocks?

I do like beer.

>I've always told you that you are idealising who I am.
I-im sure you don't act like this with friends or in real life
This is just your internet persona

you just said you didnt disagree with me, and with 3+ arguments staring you in the face, you then say you will disagree with me once it is substantiated

do you know what inductive reasoning is? you link a lot of fallacies and youre really just doing the ol' deductive versus inductive

1. Your argument is inductive
2. inductive is not deductive
3. if your argument is not deductive, you are wrong

your stupidity makes me grow stronger

I will try and scour the earth for a study that either has
>children teaching adults
>someone who is blind teaching someone how to use a fire arm
>someone who has never driven a car teaching someone how to drive
>someone who is a virgin giving tips on sex

but I dont think anyone would get a grant for research for that BECAUSE ITS SO FUCKING RETARDED

Ill just link teaching efficacy studies

but its not accurate, because when a teacher teaches math, english... THEY HAVE DONE IT BEFORE

you fail to realize you can stand on the shoulders of giants but you cant claim yourself to be a giant on top of their shoulders?

you realize PT stands for physical therapist? this is an appeal to authority... but that is also inductive reasoning.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

I am so Dunn(ing kruger) with you

The point is, a powerlifting coach who doesn't lift, compete, have a gym, have a team is basically the worst coach you could listen to, especially if that person may be a 110lb boy who wishes he was a girl.

>tfw haven't read a single post of this argument

My deadlift is terribly shit, i deadlift below 4 pl8 as a 240 lbs lifter.

According to anything i have ever seen i should be able to slap 5kg onto the bar every fucking week easily.

Thinking about this i am actually mad now and i should go lift and try harder.
There are girls half my size lifting more lel

To vanish into oblivion
it's easy to do and I try to be but you know me

I come back when you want me to

DO YOU MISS ME , MISS MISERY
LIKE YOU SAY YOU DO?

Me to

orange cheeto doo doo head! i hate trumpettes!

Get on a program

>Aren't you the guy who always defends lol fed lifters

I think this may be shocking to you, but listening to all people, and evaluating their advice on an individual basis is a really good habit to have.

Don't deal in absolutes, friend. That's one way to shut yourself off from a lot of helpful advice.

I will reiterate

Experience != Knowledge
No Experience != No Knowledge

They are neither mutually inclusive, nor exclusive.

>but just because you squat (as used in your example), doesn't mean you have all the knowledge at hand, and just because you don't squat doesn't mean you don't have a very technical and useful understanding of he movement.

no, this is dumb. everyone knows first hand experience is better than second hand experience.

first hand experience has more depth. whereas second hand experience is "don't fall off the cliff"

WHAT THE FUCK is wrong with you
You're contradicting yourself with every post! Sheesh

Yeah but would I let blaha suck my donk?

Probably short arms. I was the same, finally fixed my deadlift with maxing.

Just add 2.5kg and max out once or twice a week, maybe do a back off set of 10 SGDL too.

Don't add more than 2.5kg at a time, you won't be able to. 2.5kg is the most you can add, but you'll rarely miss the rep.

If you fall the rep, just try again next week.

why am I replied to here.

never say a (you) so I skimmed by it

Its very easy if you think about it
(Nurburgring is a german race track)

Person A: Experience for X years, has driven nurburgring and has WON races there uses objectively best information and has TESTED IT
Person B: has never driven a car but wants to show you how to drive stick in rain conditions on Nurburgring with a 90% tint after huffing air cans for an hour and recieving several blows to the head with a cynder block having never driven a car, with the objective best information

who do you choose to teach you

shitposting aside

experience != objective best information

someone with experience + best info > someone who reads best info

I LOVE PAUL DOMINIQUE AND I DON'T CARE WHO KNOWS!