When did you realise the best powerlifters in the world don't actually do bench, squats or deads in training...

Listen kid
You have been lifting for about a year and your beginner gains are slowing down and your starting to stop.
You are starting to research pro/advanced programs because you can squat the most at your local gym
Stop, although most people who have been weightlifting for around 5 years have gone through a westside phase.
YOU need to remember these are multi ply lifters.
This means that the lifters are permitted to wear squat suits and bench shirt, these where originally made to protect the lifter but got out of hand in the late 90s.
Squat suits today make the squat way more hip dominant than the raw squat making it a complacently different lift.
Similar can be said about the bench shirt.
Likey you are beginner or "advance novice"
so you will need to focus on raw lifting an programs apropreat for your skill level.
IF you truly want to do westside and multi ply lifing you will need to do Texas Method untill you can no longer lift heavy twice a week (2-3 years) then 5/3/1 with west-side like accessory's for a year, then you will be ready for west-side type program.

west side is just an excuse for lazy fat americans to not work hard and then claim they lost meets because the other guy cheated or the judges hate them.

Your quads and gluets are you primary movers in the squat, your hamstrings do a minor role in the squat.

give me a quick rundown on the west side meme

seems like faggot crossfit esque shit

Or if he's absolutely convinced about it, he can do something like WS4SB.

The conjugate approach is overall pretty good for general strength but it is not kind to the stupid, the poorly conditioned or the generally weak unless you've got a coach who can work around that.

youtu.be/nLVJTBZtiuw

It's a template for equipped powerlifting. Four main days a week training, two upper two lower. One day of each is dedicated to going heavy as fuck on a variation of the comp lift, one is dedicated to moving moderate weights fast as fuck on the closest variant you can do to the comp lift without gear (unlike the rest of their movements, these tend to be constants in the program). Then you do a ton of assistance work focused on your weak points afterwards. And you do GPP/restorative stuff on your off days.

The other element to it is a lot of exercise variation. Since you can't actually do the competition lifts every week, you have to find lifts that improve the stuff you need for the competition lifts (and with how powerful the equipment is, that generally won't be the raw lifts). They rotate between them a lot to control the stress and generally avoid having to beat themselves up on the same damn weight every week. Since they also do a lot of trial and error on new ideas, there's also a lot of deeply stupid movements that have been tried as well as plenty that work great for the purpose but just look stupid or are pretty useless for raw lifters.

It can be adapted to other forms of strength sports reasonably well (half of it is basically stolen from old soviet training ideas for oly guys) but it takes some work. And the further you are from a bunch of roided up equipped powerlifters the more work it tends to take.

It is not a meme.
It is a effective program for top teir lifters, especialy multi ply.
How ever it becomes a meme when it is use out side of it's use of geared lifting and team/field sport athletes.
In short westside is used by the gym noob looking for his next way to fuck up.
Even at that ws4sb is just ws without a bench shirt, i would get him to focus on the plain squat, bench and dead for 5 reps.

the guys in the video dont look like top tier lifters they look like memes that can't walk because their clothes are too stiff

seems to me like a bunch of super fat dudes who blatantly lie about how much weight they're actually lifting.

That would be the 'equipped' part. And yes, they are too damned stiff to do much except sort of waddle around in.

Least fun stuff I've ever worn. And that includes the Halloween gimp costume.

Because their cloths are too stiff, that is what muli ply suits do to you.
Their 300+lbs guys have some insane vertical jumps

equipped lifting to me is 100% unnecessary and retarded.

they look like shit, their lifts aren't acurately measureable feats of strength because who knows how much the suit is helping and at what points

and the thing that gets me the most is their benches. they look seriously dangerous once they get 1000lbs+ on the bar. it looks seriously dangerous and you cant even tell when theyre locked out

plus its obsolete to most people since the 1000lb bench has already been done

this is what i mean

youtube.com/watch?v=hSEaAMpyrSI

looks like hes about to die the whole time and the spotters always look like they theyre not gonna be able to help

All strength sports are unnecessary and retarded, with no real measurable tests of strength.

It's just a matter of picking your poison and doing whichever one you enjoy. They all carry a risk of fucking you up badly if things go sideways.

He tore his left pec in this im pretty sure.

nah nigga equipped lifting seems just completely unnecessary to me but its whatever

>with no real measurable tests of strength.

not true. raw powerlifting has its problems when it comes to bench arches, sumo deadlifts etc but its still much more impressive to the average person

yeah he did

And you just pointed out exactly why there's no measurable test of strength. They're all down to the rulesets involved and the skill of the lifters - both in technique and in exploiting the rules.

The average person doesn't know what either is, so I'm not sure their opinion matters on this point.

i hate this version of "weightlifting"

Imagine if swimmers in the olympics started wearing fins, imagine how ridiculed they would be.

For a while there, they did actually allow a specific sort of swimsuit that ended up changing things so much that the records had to be sectioned off once they brought the hammer down.

Which they did not because of public outcry (because hardly anyone cared) but because a large number of the poorer nations were pissed off that they would have had to spend thousands per swimmer to be competitive.

it ends up with more focus being put on better swimsuits and less on the actualy swimming

more money = better suit and if youre poor and a better swimmer then its just tough shit

thats why i hate equipped anything

It still is tough shit.

Talent's a hell of a thing to have but it won't make up for every other training advantage that money buys.

yeah but then youre spending the money on the swimmer and not a suit

Usually they're spending it on the training equipment. People are cheap compared to the other stuff.

Total world record from westside barbell

youtube.com/watch?v=xhPrqkc8MZ4

my god that squat depth

I'm not even trying to be snooty, but I wonder if these lifters even have the mobility to perform a full ATG squat

suit wont let them

that squat depth wasn't even a half squat

A lot of them can. Highbar squatting (and variants that are in sort of the same ballpark - SSB and manta squats, for example) are used pretty heavily as a secondary movement.

That's never going to happen in gear though.

>bench higher than deadlift

this is why westside is a fucking joke

Normal for equipped lifting. You get almost zero out of a deadlift suit (and since it provides the smallest part of the total, there's a tendency to ignore it and rely on carryover from the squat to keep it moving. Same reason raw deadlift specialists tend to ignore their squat or bench depending on which sucks more).

>that literally everything

You don't do the 3 lifts to avoid getting burned out, so you work to get PRs on a variety of different exercises week to week. I.e, instead of doing bench, you would rotate to get PRs in inclince bench, close grip bench, decline, wide grip, different bars, etc. There's also a speed day

lol'd