Why did the New Worlders make up such horrible autistic straight boarders?

Why did the New Worlders make up such horrible autistic straight boarders?

Not only in the Americas but in Africa.

It ignores geographical barriers that may develop cultural Differences etc.

Because they were entirely created as internal administrative limits and never existed as external borders between independent countries. There was no history behind, the US just came land grabbing and drew lines in its empire of dirt.

This. And there's no point in acting like there's much real, verifiable history behind the land either. That actually would be autistic.

We tried to make pretty borders but Lincoln was a jackass.

>it ignores geographical barriers that may develop cultural Differences
Behold, my 3,000-state solution for Africa

They could've done it right though

Step 1) Divide by basic linguistic groups (pic related)

Step 2) Divide further if religious barriers exist

Step 3) Divide further if major geographic barriers exist

Do Africans really care about borders unless it’s valuable land? Straight lines are totally acceptable if they are lines dividing deserts in two.

Did all that information (linguistic family groups and religious barriers) even fucking exist back then?

For example if you look at You can see 3 major colors. The blue part even had a war for independence once.

Recently the north pink part is having troubles because they are muslim hausa-fulani unlike the rest of Christian Nigeria

I expected the congo to be more diverse.

Behold, peak autism, reached by the french during the revolution.

They really were mad men

The US West of the Mississippi River was sparsely inhabited until the 19th century. The first thing we did was send out surveyors and geographers, and they divided land into geometric parcels.

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My Lord Jesus.

I guess thier autism was good in how they made the metric system.

Too bad the metric clock never took hold

better living through geometry

Standardization and regularization are good, but like anything they can be taken too far. There's a reason this remained on paper only.

unironically who cares if Africa reverts to thousands of tribal microstates? If it makes them happy I guess

So can any yuropoor tell me what major rivers are out west?

>these names
No thanks

I mean, as long as they set some sort of internal trade and boarder agreement it might work better than the current set up.

Like like a confederacy that dealt with trade issues and nothing else

Some of the borders are obsolete and current social and economic circumstances have changed. It would be great if on a national level at least administrative divisions could be made to be more malleable and capable of shifting and being redrawn according to socio-economic circumstances and needs.

I unironically would support this desu

and i thought the HRE was bad

>what major rivers are out west?
You don't necessarily need "major" rivers to create boundaries. In the East/South many boundaries are drawn along small rivers.
It's more about whatever makes geographic/cultural sense.
Mountains, canyons, forests, streams, lakes, language differences, ancestral boundaries, etc; these are all potential places to draw up borders.

Could be worse Americans... you could have a single province with 40% of the national population and a 10th of the territory.

Such is the strenght of Buenos Aires that in 1860 they seceded from the rest of the country, defeated all the other provinces combined, and strong-armed them into accepting their changes to the Constitution.

Imagine Texas seceding and defeating the rest of the Union combined and you get the idea.

Most of Africa's borders are patrician tier. You just need to have good taste.

But they could have at least tried to relate the borders to the geography of the land somehow

Using mountains and rivers or whatever would just look so much better, even if there wasn’t any History behind it at all

"How the States Got Their Shapes" is a pretty good pop history on the matter. The states outside of the original thirteen were supposed to be "equal" in size if not population, but there's also examples like Utah, which was cut down to size in order to control the Mormons.

Exactly. It's not a bad thing.
Otherwise you get what I was talking about here A "Federal" country where one state/province has 40% of the electorate. There are counties in BA with more people than entire Patagonian provinces.

>Using mountains and rivers or whatever would just look so much better

They do use rivers and mountains you fucking retard. The only exception is the Great Plains states who have straight borders because there are no significant geographical features to divide them.

>Africa kept this absurdly diverse tribal cultural make up while Europe blobbed into vaguely identifiable countries in just a century

how was Colonization so bad, again?

Of course not lol

Give it time and we might get there. California is 12% of the US population right now and still growing if I remember correctly.

>California is 12% of the US population right now and still growing if I remember correctly.

it's growing in numbers but it's economy is about to crack with a lot of the industry moving away due to regulations and cost, leaving only the agriculture outside the cities.

>Califaggotia
>defeating anybody in combat

That agriculture will stop once Arizona dams up the Colorado river.

We can only hope

Never hurts to be prepared for the absurd. History shows that the most absurd series of events is often the one that ends up playing out.

As things stand now though I beleive that a third of California's population is pretty conservative or something of that nature, so even if all of the people who want to secede stood up and tried to swat the rest of the US they would still have to contend with a lot of people in their own theoretical ranks standing against them.

not the one in the north, but that's the part that wants to break away and form Jefferson state.

>We can only hope

it's been a long time coming, with the utter ineptitude and bald faced corruption of the state government, their greed and hostile behavior to enterpreneurs and businesses, everything but giants like google and apple are leaving to greener pastures where their employees wont have to be paid three times their rates just to find housing and they won't be taxed to oblivion.

and with Hollywood being Hollywood, well, California is gonna have nothing left to it except ghettos, dirt and communists.

You must have a double digit IQ to think that a hypercapitalist industry like Hollywood is communist in any conceivable way

who talked about hollywood's ideas? while most of the actors and that community of "artists" are the definition of champagne socialists, the actual studios are as mercenary and ideologically disenfranchised as possible.

the problem they have is that people no longer want to watch their cheap stupid bullshit they're facing competition from other entertainment, mediums and conglomerates, they try and fail to get with the times and they're slowly dying.

Even if we were that powerful, California wouldn't want to do anything to the rest of the US. Most people I know would just want us to simply withdraw from US affairs. Also I doubt any secession would come from liberal partisanism considering liberal Californians have resoundingly rejected such a notion.

>That agriculture will stop once Arizona dams up the Colorado river.

>Doesn't realize that California agriculture doesn't just feed California and that those crops feed much of the US including Arizona
>Thinks Arizona could ever have the resources to pull off such large scale public works project.
>Doesn't realize that in order to keep California from having water from the Colorado, Arizona would have to deny water to half of their own state and all of Phoenix.
>Go through with it anyway using magic
>Only cost California 10%, not 100% of their water use like they had hoped because Arizonans can't read readily available statistics on water usage.
>It's not even LA's water
>Its hard at first but California just bucks up and pays for desalinization
>The momentary shock causes Californians to limit their use to the global average (half of US usage per person)
>Doesn't even need as much as it did
>California isn't much worse for wear. Just mad.
>Cuts off commercial traffic to Arizona, rerouted through Nevada
>Turns out California access to the Pacific Rim was what was keeping Arizona from being just another land locked patch of desert
>Economy collapses
>States upriver of Arizona realize that damming is now something they can do
>Utah and Colorado cut Arizona off of upstream water with dams that California was happy to help provide funds for
>Surely the Gila River can reliably provide for over 4 million people!
>It can not
>Is remembered for millennia as the stupidest fucking decision anyone has ever made