Random feels thread. Get it off your chest. Whatever bugs you. Get it out...

Random feels thread. Get it off your chest. Whatever bugs you. Get it out. If you've got motivation issues because of depression, get in here.

that pic should read ask not for a gf but for the aesthetics/ ability to get a gf.

also my feel is being a redhead manlet, but having a (i think?) pretty good face and DYEL, but improving body. also no autism, thanks improv.

My depression has killed my appetite and i find it near impossible to bulk because of it. To make it worse, the only way i can stave away the depression is with my running high, which means a lot of running, which in turn means I have thick legs but no arms.
How do I make up for my small arms and eat enough calories?

I hope working out can give me at least an inch increase in height

I feel like I'm not bulking enough

Been on a good cut using PSMF by lyle m. Shits fine and i feel good but felt kind of wanting to cheat today so i bought an 8 piece kfc bucket, ate like 7 then felt sick, ate 8 and started puking back in the bucket. So far my puke has filled half the pucket in pure diet coke/chewed kfc chicken


I think its cause my portions have been so small idk why i thought i could down 8 pieces at once


Not sure what to do know OR how to dispose of this bucket of kfc puke

Really been lazing it off recently, watched too many movies etc. I really need to pick up the slack and do something with my life.

Time to start living with discipline.

i can just never catch a break, the last 2 years have been mostly shit, its a long one and might just sound like autistic screeching but thats because ive never old anyone before. It all started with my senior year of high school. But you know what I got in to where I wanted to go so badly that I worked for to get into.Tell my parents that I got in and its the happiest day of my life they say congrats and say nothing till two weeks later. Thats when they say that they feel I dont deserve to go to my dream college, after I've been telling everyone I got in and im so happy to go there with my best friend and gf that time. try to fight it but it does not work out, my parents say i can go to a smaller school that I applied two because I thought might as well aply to two just in case. that was one of the most misrable times. I also bought so much merch of that college and then was made fun of by "friends" on how i was never smart enough and that i just lied to say I got in there. and bascilly all down hill from there. I went to that other school and hated it but i don't think after that i could go anywhere and like it. Spend all that time there just drinking and not giving a fuck, I know its self destructive but Ive basically gone of the deep end at that point. turned into a bottle a night drinker. get arrested for underage plus more, story for a different time, and then eventually get the boot from that college. doing some community college now but its just missing out on what could have been. plus my best friend from then has been in one to many wymyns study classes and turned into a hard core feminist protester for pay, idk what happened to gf. but i just feel so alone on a Saturday night where I should be out with the bros getting girls and having a good time to now where i have basically become a neet. also i just cant get over that feeling of working hard for 4 years and achieving my goal but the very people who would normally have my back take that away

plus lifting is the only thing keeping me sane but even that is starting to get maddening.

eat caloric dense meals

I have cripling depression...

my ex gf is moving on. we dated off and on for 5 or 6 years. I've fucked some random hoes since we broke up last but I always think of her..

feels bad man. talking about it always helps a little bit

What are good caloric dense meals to eat? Also, how do I adjust my workout so my arms can catch up?

>never got a response back

I know it was a long ass message, but still.

Though in the end I am glad I actually said what I felt instead of bottling it up like I usually do.

ha loser

Also feeling a little bit lost in life in general. I busted my ass in college to get my dream job (I have it), finally get financially secure (make more money now than both of my parents combined), and I have a nice body with good looks, and I should be satisfied.

However, I'm definitely >tfwnogf. I live in rural Oklahoma where the only pickings are single moms and meth heads. Can't stop thinking about my ex.

>tfw you realize you're as old as the "adults" in your nip cartoons

If your stomach got smaller consider doing IF. I'm eating about 500-600g chicken breast in one meal and it's fine.

If you want to stick with few small meals a day then consider using competitive eating training techniques to keep stomach at a normal size. Basic 'exercise' is to drink a gallon of water every now and then. Make sure to read it up before any attempts. Remember to add shitload of salt to your PSMF.

>never got a response back

>me: hey ___, it's ___ from the park yesterday
>her: hey ___! how are you?
>me: I'm good, what's up?
>her:
it's been like 12 hours what could it mean

You mean ?

It looks like incoherent mess right now. Edit it so we can read it easier.

Don't text this shit. You need a good hook. Hey how are you doesn't work.

she said that though not me

I was literally one response away from getting to the reason I texted her

>tfw want to go on cut again thanks to getting a but chubby again but also want to bulk so I can make gains

At least I manned up and got an actual gym membership instead of just using the awful complimentary apartment gym.

Smoke weed. Will make you hungry and happy, two birds with one stone.

tldr,
>get into dream college
>parents say i don't deserve it,
>turned into degenerate,
>things will change but the struggle to do so is hard and am in world of shit for a while hoping i can get to the other end

No I was referring that I sent someone a note IRL and haven't gotten a response

Then you should have gotten to it on your second text.

This isn't really a /feels/ story, more of an autism story. I am showing how after I got Veeky Forums, I think I became socially inept in some way.

>be me
>be with a group of friends at walmart
>one of them was looking for a charger to buy for their phone
>go wander off and do something else
>find one of those huge candy containers with tons of different candy boxes inside of them
>decided that I ironically have OCD and stack the candy boxes with their own brand
>qter patooter who works there is watching what I am doing
>grab a whoppers box
>it's already open and all the whoppers fall out of the box
>qt walks over to me
>"umm sir, what are you doing?"
>"I'm helping organizing these boxes together h-haha"
>she gives me this weird look
>she notices the whopper box in my hand and all the whoppers on the floor
>"You know you are going to have to pay for these whoppers you spilled for, right?"
>we stare at each other for what seemed like 10 whole seconds
>"h-hehe, whopps"
>I fast walked in the other direction and didn't turn around

Fuck this.

Lesson learned I guess, thought she seemed interested enough to give me two replies

>"h-hehe, whopps"

Fucking hell that got me.

>fattie
>been lifting for years...getting swole but still fat
>no training partner
>literally everyone in my family is a fattie...couple of them even got gastric bypass and they are still fat fucks
>friends can't stop running their mouths or got their nose stuck in youtube..worse than teenagers
>town is full of nothing but autistic old farts who go to the gym just to bullshit about college football
>lifting is the only reason I get up in the morning

never go back there

I lifted intensely when I was 17 and got decent gains, got depressed and stopped lifting, lost all my gains. I'm 19 now and hitting the gym again but I don't know if I'm wasting my time because I'm naturally a skinny kid so I need to eat a LOT to make gains but I'm not even eating half as much as I was back then (don't have money for food). I guess I just lift now so I won't be stuck at home but there's no way I'm actually going to get big eating like this.

>tfw gf
>tfw want to bang other chicks

The issue is attention and all of that. Notice how no one else has replied to our posts. But, if you post some ass. You will get replies. It's about hooks.

My dad died two years ago and I gained around fifty pounds and ended up a real fat faggot at 5'9" 190. This past summer up until now I started working out and dieting and am down to 130 and while I still have some belly fat and you can barely see my abs Im finally starting to feel good about my body. A week ago some girl I've been messaging on Facebook asked me to prom and to my first date I've ever had at 18. I had it yesterday and took her to see the movie La La Land (Her choice) and then to Ice Cream. I fucked up to begin with and forgot to open the car to my car initially. After though we went to the movies and I made sure I opened every damn door. In the movie as hard as it was and as hard as my heart was pumping I fucking put my arm around her during one of the romantic parts of the movie and she proceeded to snuggle up to my chest and stayed there for like half an hour and I was so god damn happy for once. After that I opened all the doors and my car door and all that shit made sure she was warm and took her for ice cream. We talked but as the date came to an end she started pulling her phone out and checking it and I felt real bad like I fucked up or something. I really tried too idk wtf is wrong with me. I took her home and wanted to tell her how good of a time I had but as we went up to the door her mom came out and I didnt do anything and just said bye because Im not going to do that shit in front of her mom. She texted me and I told her how good of a time I had and how we should do it again and we scheduled for next week but I still feel bad. Did I fuck up anywhere?

>used to lift all the time in high school
>stopped doing so junior year, along with stopped doing sports
>5 years pass, lose gains and gain fat
>go on a cut for 85 lbs
>get depressed for another year and gain 20
>now back at a gym, lifting
>sad whenever I lift a weight and remember I could easily do the weights before
>want to cut but I need some gains

Barely being able to do 1.5 pl8 squats and 2 pl8 dead lifts is fucking depressing.

I know, I thought the exclamation point would buy me another reply with some fake ass lame shit like "nothing" or "working" so I could see if she wanted to meet up later

Stay with it, you're in

I love my job but my co-workers are bullying me into quitting, same goes for my boss.
>You will get less money compared to the other workers since you live in a poor appartment, you dont need as much money to pay the rent

My boss actually told me that.
Im a carer for a severly handicapped child, the boss is her father. I want to tell the fat fuckers to die but i view this girl as a little sister.

>fuck fat fucks
>this girl wouldnt have been damaged if her fat mother didnt party all through pregnancy

I feel like a failure for still being a virgin. I'm 19 - not that old but still. Women for the most part find me attractive, but I just can't muster the guts to talk to that qt

Nope that sounds exactly like what your first dating experience should be like. Keep going and good luck

It gets easier, but it takes time my man

Nah man that sounds pretty normal

>we scheduled for next week
You got a second date, you didn't fuck up at all

Fuck your parents, they think they know what is good for you but they have no fucking idea. Or they are cunts, either way get the fuck off the piss and start looking after yourself. You are only as smart and worthy of what you think you are. Do't be a faggot and go and lift now

I know it's scary

Like, really, I know. I'm not saying that to patronize, it's nerve wracking. Try to realize that the worst thing she can do is say no and laugh at you, and that's probably not what's going to happen. Getting turned down isn't the worst thing in the world, I know from experience that not trying in the first place hurts a lot more than getting told she has a boyfriend.

>You will get less money compared to the other workers since you live in a poor appartment, you dont need as much money to pay the rent

So incredibly illegal, if you ever want revenge, report that to the Department of Labor

You fucking retard faggot. Go lft instead of wallowing on self pity. I bet you like to get fucked in the ass by a jew nigger. Kill yoursekf pls

Being direct is your best bet.

Girl i'm in love with married her friend to get him a green card now they're trying to make the marriage work for real, and it's working.

Feels bad man, at least i got to put it in.

Over analyzing m8. She is probably super embarrassed that her mum came out, probably thinking of something stupid she said and now thinking weather or not you think she is weird because of it. Chill out and do what ever you want and consider her as another human being not a chick you want to fuck. The less fucks you give the easier life gets

Sorry man, look for another job and report them for workplace bullying. Unfortunately we can not look after everyone

>have qt gf
>been together for almost 3 years now
>she is smart, fun but can be annoying sometimes
>i love her and its very hard for me to have feelings for girls
>im just bored of her now, its been 3 years, im sick of it
>i need other women, and I could get qt girls very easily if i wanted
>getting hard to fight this feeling, will eventually cheat on her if this keeps going

i hate myself for this

I think I can get gf soon
Also my dog has cancer and is struggling, we couldn't know about it soon enough because it buried her food and has long fur so it was already very underweight when they diagnose it

Go to Canada and get a hot French Canadian babe, fuck her off out of your life, truth be told, she does not think of you. Get that into your head, have a cry wank and move on to greener pastures

I'm mostly over it, but it was running me into the ground pretty bad a few days ago, you're totally right though.

One day your dick is going to stop working. Who is going to hang around you then when you are an old grumpy cunt? The one you stuck with

yep, and she is crazy for me, she is a very high quality woman in both looks and intelligence, also very moral.
she is a perfect catch, the problem is me, I am very individualist sometimes and I feel like Im not living enough of my life(only 21) but i also dont want to push away someone that truly loves me and that has shown that many times

My personality seems to completely change every couple of days.
It's hard to dedicate myself to anything because the fluidity of my outlook makes everything seem trifling and pointless.
Want to be Veeky Forums but most of the time too depressed to care.
I'm skelly at 5'11 129 lbs.
Even if I constantly struggle with exercising I'll probably never make gains b/c I'm too poor to eat right.
Currently eat like 1000 calories a day.
Even if I somehow start eating a lot of food it would fuck my stomach up b/c idk I have IBS or something and I can't be constantly farting and shitting in public all the time.
And I would be limited to exercises I can do at home because I'm too shy to go to a gym.

Your only real fuckup is overanalyzing the shit out of what you did and stressing over it. SHE asked YOU out. To motherfucking prom.

>and I didnt do anything and just said bye because Im not going to do that shit in front of her mom
>She texted me
Congratulations. She is now chasing you even harder than before. No sarcasm, she is legit really into you. Pretty soon you'll probably be into her too :^) Just calm the fuck down and enjoy yourself.

I've been lifting for a couple years and I'm pretty big. I'm attractive and pretty masculine - broad shoulder, deep voice, square jaw, hairy chest. I'm also studying something very lucrative in school and I'm set on what looks to be a career track that will put me within the top 1% of incomes in the US.
I'm in love with this girl that I've known for a while. Just met her boyfriend. He's 5'3" (shorter than her), has a high voice that cracks when he speaks, has hips wider than his shoulders, and is complete auschwitz mode skinny. Beside his incredibly patchy goatee, he is one of the most feminine men I've ever seen. On top of all this he's extremely beta in his posture and mannerisms, going so far as to walk behind me and his girlfriend instead of next to her and refusing to make eye contact. Best of all, he's studying psychology with no specific plan for what to do once he graduates and from what she's told me he's having difficulty in his classes.
Seeing her with that guy instead of me sucks pretty bad. I really care about this girl and she's choosing to stay with someone that seems worse in every regard. I've worked very hard these last few years to improve myself in a lot of ways, and then this kind of shit happens.
Is this making it?

Man when you are 25, you will wish you never gave her up, youll be fucking bitches left right and center and not one of them will mean shit to you. You will have a hole in yourself you cant fix with drugs, women, porn, even lifting. If you have something good, maintain it

>basing your entire life worth on how many different girls you have sex with

beta level off the fucking CHARTS

>23
>6'3
>former drug addict (pain killers for two years every day)
>300 pounds
>Used to be 375 pounds, lost 75 by browsing here a lot and diet plus gym 3xWeek
>Virgin
>Have big goals in life
>Want lots of success
>Overcame drug addiction and lost weight, still on diet and exercise
>Feel like I will never get there

when I reach a weight in which people will start actually seeing me as a potential sexual partner, I won't know what to do. I go out a lot, I'm in a band that plays around town, I talk to girls all the time at the bars I play at. I know that in a few months I'll be at a weight where girls I'm attracted to will be more of a realistic opportunity. I won't know how to handle that.

Furthermore, my ambitions are laughable. I'm a former drug addict and current fat fuck but I still think I'm going to achieve an abnormal amount of success in life in my field of work. I have nothing to back this up. I believe in myself deeply with no reason why. It's a setup for disappointment and major depression later in life when I don't live up to it.

I'm progressing in life, and It's scaring the shit out of me.

I believe in you user, aim for the stars buddy and good luck

Get the fuck out there and get that success and stop being a fat fuck by going to the gym one more day a week as of now. Make up a plan of how you are going to achieve your first goal. Life is scary but its even worse if you are not progressing.

Every human being is capable of greatness. Don't let other peoples thoughts and opinions control your life.

> " “The graveyard is the richest place on earth, because it is here that you will find all the hopes and dreams that were never fulfilled, the books that were never written, the songs that were never sung, the inventions that were never shared, the cures that were never discovered, all because someone was too afraid to take that first step, keep with the problem, or determined to carry our their dream.”
- Les Brown

I haven't had friends since I was 13. No friends has caused every problem in my life.

Not having friends meant I never met girls

Not getting girls or having friends meant I became isolated

Becoming isolated meant I became lonely, miserable, bitter through high school

Being miserable and isolated in high school meant I didn't learn how to interact socially with peers

Not learning how to interact with peers carried over into college so i basically had the same existence there

All the isolation, misery, loneliness, etc, meant I had nothing to work towards, so no motivation

No motivation meant I stayed a manlet and holocaust mode and didn't do great in college because studying is difficult when you have no motivation and nothing to strive for

Graduate college, move back home, work shit job because I don't see the point in trying grad school, terrible relationship with parents (they are assholes, I'm an asshole, so we all barely even talk to each other, also an only child)

Now a 25 year old kissless friendless shut-in (besides work) who has never even attempted to get a girl and now I'm scared to not only try to get a girl, but even friends, because everyone has always hated me so I don't want to burden others with my presence. I've basically been a shut in since I started high school at 14. No life experiences at all.

And not only that, but I know if I try to have "real" conversations with anyone and don't just crack jokes, or try to actually hang out with people, it will become clear very quickly that I have no friends, no girl, no life, the people I talk to will repel from me because of this, and I'll be worse off than when I started.

I can't even comprehend what my life is going to be like for the next however many years I have until I surely kill myself. No real hobbies, no dreams, nothing to strive for at all. I basically just exist and go through the motions of life at only 25 years old, the "prime" of my life.

DONT YOU WANT VENGEANCE?

THEY DID THIS TO YOU

YOU SUFFER WHILE THEY LAUGH, AND HAVE SEX, AND SPEND THEIR DAYS HAVING FUN WITH EACHOTHER
DO YOU THINK THIS IS JUST? DO YOU THINK THIS IS RIGHT? ARE YOU HAPPY WITH THIS?

THEY MUST PAY

KILL THEM ALL

>it's another "a guy who has no friends and/or is a virgin is sure to be a school shooter or mass murderer" post

exactly why we can't talk about this with anyone in real life and have to stay shut in and isolated

>Girlfriend left me
>Took the car
>Getting to work takes forever on the bus
>Get home really fucking late
>Going to the gym isnt fun anymore because im tired as fuck
>Gym is also pretty far away
RIP Gains

AND WHY WOULD YOU ACCEPT THIS?
SOCIETY HATES YOU

TAKE YOUR VENGEANCE, OR SUFFER FOR ETERNITY

I'm sorry bro, that sucks.
Like for real that sucks man.

Anything fun to do when you get home atleast? Vidya or somethin?

Time has an ability to amplify positives and dissolve negatives so long as you keep moving forward. Things will resolve eventually, even if the path isn't clear right now. If gym is temporarily not a thing you can get to every night due to this current situation, you can either supplement with home workout or just focus on something else for the time being on the days where you can't make it.

It'll be alright, there's always a next step to something. Take enough steps, you'll get there.

If I had no friends I could get so much more done.
Choose a good hobby and give it all your time.

Thank you, truly.

Will do 4 days next week, and hopefully every week after. I've been on 3 for months now I think I can do 4.

Thank you again.

this is what some people mistakenly believe, that if they didnt have friends or a girlfriend that theyd get way more done

i mean, you do have more time for things, but the severe depression and misery you get from being completely alone with no one to talk to destroys your motivation

Feels incoming
>Be 5'7 128lb male
>Have crippling body dysmorphia and Eating Disorder
>Spin my wheels for 8 months crash dieting and binge eating
>800 calories on restricting days
>5000+ on binge days. Easily gain 2 pounds of fat from a binge.
>High cortisol makes me bloat up and look pregnant every meal.
> Out of 800 calorie cheat days, 400 calories are protein. All i have is coffee, chicken and tuna sandwhiches, and protein shakes.
>Still at like 130 pounds but with less muscle because i have been on a 8 month failed cut.
> I am trying to bulk and go past the pain but i just want to be ottermode and loved.

What do I do bros?

Man that sucks, Id be your friend. Is there anything that you enjoy doing? Lifting, reading, painting, anything? I feel for you man. Its a dark spiral it seems you are stuck in. Just remember that the only one who hyper analyses you is yourself. Everyone you talk to is not lying in bed thinking that you fucked up a joke or said something offensive, they are worried that what they said to you or someone else was shit or embarrassing or what ever their own problems are.
Go clean yourself up i.e. hair cut, new clothes, go out to the shops and ask random questions to the shop keeps like you are looking for help. Like looking for a book, go ask the person at the counter what book you recommend for sci-fi or fantasy or what ever it is you are into. After you do this for a while you will start to get the hang of how to have basic conversations. Its a start and once you do it a few times and see that its not so hard, you will start feeling fuck loads better about yourself

Any time user, we all get stuck in dark places sometimes.

time for a change man,not happy with your job? if not then et a new one. move to a different area. You are now free, it may hurt for a while but your free and you can go do what ever the fuck you want now

Fucking oath you will do 4 or ill beat you with a sock filled with soap

Grass is always greener on the other side. Dont throw away the good you have like I did with mine. Had a good gf, 8/10 , faithful asian and my dumbass try to ignored what I had

I'm fat.

Stop eating as many things

Guys, I need help. I don't have any parents or friends to go to. I feel so lonely.

>no interests
>no motivation
>30k/yr job, barely getting by
>come home and wallow in self pity and read Veeky Forums
>realize how negative the place is and want to stop
>always come back because im bored with nothing to do, and I don't wanna start relying on weed and alcohol again
>anxiety so bad my armpits turn into highly visable pools of sweat every time i go to work or leave the house

How do I beat depression? If I keep working out, eating healthy, and meditating, will it all go away and I'll be happy again like when I was a kid?

Do I need antidepressants? Have they ever helped anyone here? I only ever hear bad things.

Please help me brehs. I wish I had an interest, but I have no motivation and I'd always rather just lay in bed and fap and listen to the same music i've been listening to for years.

My favorite food is Buffalo wings, but I am afraid to tell people that because it has a stigma of unhealthy fried bar food (but I actually like them better baked/grilled, great protein) and also they might believe I blast hot sauce out my ass on the reg and I can't have women think that about me.

Kek, got me too

Stop fapping, number one man. If you cant, at least do it without porn, and if thats too hard at least normal porn not weird loli shit or chicks with dicks.
IF you want to have a wank, go for a walk instead, just a short 30 min walk around the place with nowhere in particular in mind. Let yourself breath for a bit.

Why did you let her take your car you stupid fuck, report it stolen by her you dense fuck

1. what the fuck did i just read
2. is this real
3. did your parents really FORCE you to attend one college over another
4. are you drunk right now

I've found that no matter what I do, I will never be as happy and carefree as I was when I was a kid. You can only hope to match that happiness with a new happiness. Antidepressants are a sham. My dad's sister takes them and she's more batshit crazy than she was before. Channel your creative side. Learn a musical instrument. Paint. Write. Talk to women. Do something. Keep exercising. Keep moving.

Goodluck user

It's not so much that I "hyper analyze" myself, lying in bed thinking about bad memories. It's that my entire life experience to this point has showed that I flat out fail at interacting with people. Even in college, I had roommates every year who seemed to like me and would invite me to stuff even though I had no friends, and seemed to like being around me, but after we moved out we never spoke again.

> Is there anything that you enjoy doing? Lifting, reading, painting, anything?

The real issue is that the bitterness that has festered for basically my entire upbringing has made me dislike almost everything. Since I don't really do much since I have no one to do things with, pretty much all I like doing are mindless things that are there just to waste time (internet, TV, etc) until I need to sleep.

As pathetic as this is to say, I feel like my Reddit history (lol) is a good allegory to my life. I post on sports reddits because I love sports, and I will make an account and get a lot of upvotes and shit because a lot of what I say is actually funny, but eventually I go too far and get banned. I make a new account, and the same thing happens. I probably have made over a dozen account to keep posting there that keep getting banned. I feel like it's pretty similar to my life, where I say funny things and people seem to like me, but I guess I become too annoying/obnoxious and people hate me

is nofap really that important? no offense but I always thought it was a meme and noporn actually had some science behind it.

And i've been thinking about learning guitar. Thanks user, i think im gonna pick that thing up and start trying to apply myself and stop beating myself up for not doing it earlier in life.

I took zoloft a couple times for 2-3 months at a time. It seemed to help. Dick worked fine, by the way.

I probably need get back on them, but I don't have a prescription any more, and my anxiety is too much to let me go get one. Catch 22 kinda.

>get on tinder
>match with a surprisingly good amount of people
>can easily get through introductions and making the funny bullshit
>get bored with them after the conversation and completely stop talking to them
>move onto the next person
>same thing

I am 100% myself when I am alone, I enjoy being alone, but something in me really wants to be in a relationship. Some nights it's practically unbearable but I know that I'll just get bored with them in a couple months like previous relationships. What do I do, brehs?

It obviously will make you obsess about fapping like this guy

Its more the porn aspect. You in your short life have seen more naked ladies than all of your ancestors combined. That shit can not be health for you, and is not proven by other science people who spent time on it, (google it yourself) Its fine to fap just too much porn can be damaging, just like to much of anything

Guitar is good. There are thousands of free resources out there to learn guitar.
And just fap less, bro. Like once or twice a week, tops. And not to porn. Masturbate to that good looking cashier grill at the grocery store. Or the preacher's daughter. Something real.

The point of Tinder isn't to keep texting with them. You spend a number of lines of dialogue back and forth (I would say half an hour, but people respond at different times) and within that same night, or next night, you should be setting up a real life meeting with them where you two hang out.

If you are getting bored with the conversation, that's the point. Whether we're talking about friendship or a boyfriend/girlfriend thing, how is a "relationship" where neither of you have seen each other supposed to hold up.

> something real
Are you telling me Aj Applegate isn't real?